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Vicky 08-24-08, - 10:04 PM You sure didn't waste time switching from the term GAY to MSM (Men who have Sex with Men). That's the dumbest term I've ever heard of. And the request to have the term changed is even dumber.
(Not calling you dumb.)
It is the term used in the medical community for men who have sex with men that are not necessarily homosexual.
John Doe 08-24-08, - 10:04 PM pure ignorance talking here.
NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE I AM TALKIN ABOUT RAPISTS WHO ARE CARRIERS, NOT ALL INFECTED PERSONS WHO CAN STILL CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY WHO ARE NOT INTENTIONALLY SPREADING IT LIKE THAT GIRL FROM MOI UNIVERSITY.
if someone wants to spread HIV even if they are castrated it will not stop them.
BUT I AM SURE THAT AN INFECTED RAPIST (MALE RAPIST) WILL HAVE NO OTHER MEANS OF SATISFYING HIS SICK PLEASURE..
one prick of the finger and a drope of blood in someone eye and the deed is done..
WHILE THAT IS TRUE VICKY, I AM NOT SAYING SEPERATE ALL INFECTED PERSONS, I AM SAYING SEPERATE ALL INFECTED RAPISTS OR INFECTED WHO INTENTIONALLY SPREAD IT WHO DO NOT LET A PERSON KNOW THEY ARE INFECTED BEFORE THEY SLEEP WITH THEM.
asterz57 08-24-08, - 10:06 PM So you are saying that people who have unprotected sex do not knowingly accept the risk they may get HIV and that they bare no responsibility for their exposure?
I think that a person who knowingly has AIDS/HIV and sleeps around without informing their sexual partner should be charged with attempted murder. Its a different story if the individual shared that information.. The other party then have the choice to proceed or to walk away. If they proceed then its on them.
John Doe 08-24-08, - 10:10 PM So you are saying that people who have unprotected sex do not knowingly accept the risk they may get HIV and that they bare no responsibility for their exposure?
I am saying that anyone who does not admit that they are infected before having sex with the healthy person is a murderer, should be castrated, and should recieve life in prison without parole and isolated in a seperate section of the prison for treatment and rehabilitation, as all is not lost because they can be used to upkeep the prison with labour. they are still human despite what they have done and should not be treated like animals but still face hard prison time for 1st degree murder, i will always take the side of the victim......
Ting-um 08-24-08, - 10:12 PM hehee... LOL!!...ya never know these days...
i meant though perhaps discussions of the act of knowlingly infecting someone went on between a seperae party whose testimony may or may not be permitted in court...
Well, most elements can be proven. The infector was aware of his/her HIV status. The infector had sex with the alleged victim. Both can be proven. What will have to come out in court will be if deception was in play.
If the victim knowingly slept with an infected person, then their intent must've been to pass on the infection to another. Either that, or they intended to die from the infection. In either case, they would not file a complaint with the authorities.
Vicky 08-24-08, - 10:12 PM In regards to prisons, at least for men, one simple solution, CASTRATION:hammer::hammer::hammer:
try education and condoms
Vicky 08-24-08, - 10:19 PM WHILE THAT IS TRUE VICKY, I AM NOT SAYING SEPERATE ALL INFECTED PERSONS, I AM SAYING SEPERATE ALL INFECTED RAPISTS OR INFECTED WHO INTENTIONALLY SPREAD IT WHO DO NOT LET A PERSON KNOW THEY ARE INFECTED BEFORE THEY SLEEP WITH THEM.
the problem is if someone has sex with out a condom do they know the risk of unprotectd sex.
If a medical care giver gets HIV from not protecting them selves who is to blame.
John Doe 08-24-08, - 10:24 PM try education and condoms
As much as I would hope that can work, its not working, when one has that urge, all the education goes out the window, especially when one has the thinking that they are already in prison sentenced to death with a virus shattering thier future so the only thing left to do is CASTRATION, I SAY THAT VICKY BECAUSE IF YOUR CHILD IS IMPRISONED AND LATER FOUND INNOCENT AND IMMEDIATELY RELEASED, THAT VERY SAME RAPIST WITH HIV/AIDS OR EVEN GENITAL HERPES (which a lot of people forget because of the more widely discussed Aids) but supposed that infected person rapes your child, even though they may be released and try to live as best a normal live with treatment, its not fair to your child to recieve and earlier death sentence. Off course, on the day of your childs release, they could accidentally get run over by a bus or some other Final Destination thing could happen but AIDS/HIV mentally kills I would say 98% of its victims from worrying/fear of death and one who is a rapist with AIDS should be seperated from Society and Castrated.
Vicky 08-24-08, - 10:24 PM I think that a person who knowingly has AIDS/HIV and sleeps around without informing their sexual partner should be charged with attempted murder. Its a different story if the individual shared that information.. The other party then have the choice to proceed or to walk away. If they proceed then its on them.
So peiple who have unprotected sex risks their own life.
Just like when a woman has unprotected sex with a man and she gets pregnant.
Who fault is it??
John Doe 08-24-08, - 10:30 PM the problem is if someone has sex with out a condom do they know the risk of unprotectd sex.
If a medical care giver gets HIV from not protecting them selves who is to blame.
Well thats a 50 50 thing their Vicky. I would put it more like this. The only way the infected person should go to jail and you know the rest of what should happen to them by now but if the infected person raped the healthy person then the consequences but if both parties had sex willingly and one gets infected, I still say that by law, if one knows they are infected, they should still be imprisoned if they are proven to not have told the person that they are infected. Now if its proven that both parties have no idea, then the condoms and education should have prevented the disease from spreading and both parties are to blame for not using protection because your health is your wealth and one should be responsible especially with all of the advertisements around the world via sight or radio....
Just for the record, even if an infected person rapes another infected person, the offender should still go to jail because rape is rape no matter what the circumstances are....
John Doe 08-24-08, - 10:32 PM I think that a person who knowingly has AIDS/HIV and sleeps around without informing their sexual partner should be charged with attempted murder.
I disagree, they should be charged with "FIRST DEGREE MURDER"
Its a different story if the individual shared that information.. The other party then have the choice to proceed or to walk away. If they proceed then its on them.
:hammer:
generalcrazy 08-24-08, - 10:34 PM try education and condoms
condoms dont stop nothing.
generalcrazy 08-24-08, - 10:37 PM So peiple who have unprotected sex risks their own life.
Just like when a woman has unprotected sex with a man and she gets pregnant.
Who fault is it??
they are only riskin they lives because of people that are infected that have sex with them, so no question about it the blame lies 100% on the infected person, whether they know they are infected or not - if they know they are infected and then have unprotected sex then 100% they need to be dragged down the street and executed as the cold blooded murderers they are.
asterz57 08-24-08, - 10:40 PM So peiple who have unprotected sex risks their own life.
Just like when a woman has unprotected sex with a man and she gets pregnant.
Who fault is it??
This is about infected person who know they have the virus willing have sex with a healthy person and do not tell them about their status. Yes I take the risk everytime I have sex whether it be protected or not that I may get pregnant and catch a STD. However, if the person I am about to have sex with have the disease unknown to me, he should disclose that information. If he didnt then he just handed me a death sentance and should be charged with murder.
Its both of their fault, not just the woman. Both should take the necessary steps to protect themself not only from STD's but also unwanted pregnancies. It takes two to make a baby not one.
John Doe 08-24-08, - 10:40 PM condoms dont stop nothing.
VERY TRUE, THEY MAY DECREASE YOUR CHANCES BUT IF USED INCORRECTLY, YOU MIGHT AS WELL DONT USE THEM CAUSE ITS STILL TOO LATE AND ALWAYS (IF YOU DECIDE TO USE CONDOMS) MAKE SURE EEN NO HOLES IN THE BOX OR THE CONDOM ITSELF,,,,,BUY NEW ONES,,,,,YA HAVE A LOT OF EVIL PEOPLE OUT THERE........IN THE MEAN TIME, GET TESTED FIRST AND IN A WAY, WHY SHOULD YOU HAVE TO USE A CONDOM UNLESS YOU ARE NOT BEING FAITHFULL, AVOIDING PREGNANCY, OR BELIEVE THAT THE OTHER PERSON IS UNFAITHFULL, JUST ABSTAIN IF YA CYAN TRUSS DAT PERSON UNTIL YOU ARE 99.9% ERYTING COOL, CAUSE NOTHING IN LIFE IS 100% FOOL PROOF AS ALL OF US TAKE A CHANCE EVERYTIME WE HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE OR WHO WE SLEEP WITH.....
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