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bahmaboy
09-23-08, - 05:06 PM
and yes HIV does have the ability to mutate, the mutations are due to its low replication fidelity (when the virus copies its genome, it doesn't copy it "correctly", it makes mistakes in the replication), therefore increasing the chances of developing new strains. but i guess the thought is that if you have a memory response that is quick enough you can destroy the virus before it has a chance to replicate so much that it develops a new strain.
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so basically the virus always starts off identical but it mutates differently at a certain point.

so right now scientist are trying to find an anti body that will remember this first stage of copying and attack it before it goes further?

and basically your saying a preventative measure like a vaccine is closer than a cure

as for that other person to suggest man created aids to make money ou have to be kiddin me.

bahmaboy
09-23-08, - 05:10 PM
it differs from state to state, Sarah Palin, for example, is for abstinence only sex education

so says the woman with the pregnatn teenage. yorrik point is correct to the point that teen agers WILL NOT ABSTAIN so why push that point like its gospel.

i say give them the options of dry humping, oral, digital stimulation, masterbation.

the fact of life is people like to get off with each other and science proves that people are at their hoorniest in their teen and early adult years

hot sauce
09-23-08, - 05:15 PM
so says the woman with the pregnatn teenage. yorrik point is correct to the point that teen agers WILL NOT ABSTAIN so why push that point like its gospel.
i say give them the options of dry humping, oral, digital stimulation, masterbation.
the fact of life is people like to get off with each other and science proves that people are at their hoorniest in their teen and early adult years

men in their twenties, women in their late thirties/forties

livingupnorth
09-23-08, - 05:23 PM
so basically the virus always starts off identical but it mutates differently at a certain point.
so right now scientist are trying to find an anti body that will remember this first stage of copying and attack it before it goes further?
and basically your saying a preventative measure like a vaccine is closer than a cure
as for that other person to suggest man created aids to make money ou have to be kiddin me.

its not quite that simple. there are different strains, and not all "start off the same", the thing is that there are certain proteins uniquely expressed by the virus, that are common to most if not all strains, that scientist can use to develop synthetic peptide (which if used as a vaccine with trigger the body to make antibodies) or to develop antibodies that will neutralize the virus (make it unable to infect cells- in simplest terms) the later will allow scientists to develop vaccines that can trigger the production of these neutralizing antibodies

jetzu
09-23-08, - 05:24 PM
so says the woman with the pregnatn teenage. yorrik point is correct to the point that teen agers WILL NOT ABSTAIN so why push that point like its gospel.
i say give them the options of dry humping, oral, digital stimulation, masterbation.the fact of life is people like to get off with each other and science proves that people are at their hoorniest in their teen and early adult years

So please enlighten me...how exactly would this be taught and laid out in a curriculum..dry humping:taped2:...hilarious....BOL :bouncy::shaky:

livingupnorth
09-23-08, - 05:26 PM
Doctors take the Hypocratic oath, even the ones involved in the Tuskegee experiment..
Scientists, doctors etc are human first, and their beliefs and prejudices are with them, a google search will give you studies of the difference in healthcare categories of persons receive..
It is only recently that women are being closely studied for example, in the past most of the scientific studies were done on men, (in the US mostly white men), in the US in fact, white men still receive the best healthcare

i agree lately alot of more issues in science are taking into consideration that women need to be studies as subjects as well. your statement about "white men" and health care however is an economic challenge not an ethical one

John Doe
09-23-08, - 05:54 PM
i agree lately alot of more issues in science are taking into consideration that women need to be studies as subjects as well. your statement about "white men" and health care however is an economic challenge not an ethical one


LIVINGUPNORTH, IN YOUR OPINION, WHERE DO YOU THINK AIDS CAME FROM?

d1973
09-23-08, - 06:39 PM
Yes indeed...according to your existence, your educational level and your religious/moral/sexual stances.

The question is: Can you truly relate to an 18 year old girl who has had over 20 partners within the past year?

Can you truly relate to a young man who is 22 with 3 kids and 2 more on the way?

Let's be really real here. I can drive around town tonight, pick up a stranger in a bar and have sex with her (not that I would do that). And in most cases she would not even question me as to whether I should use a condom. I'm not talking about a "Sherry" either. I'm talking about a normal Bahamian woman.

Figure that one out.

These are the types of persons who are not getting the message in this country at present. I seriously would doubt that most women on this forum would be able to relate to a person who would do that, but it happens every day in this nation. So when I hear each of you clearly defining and respecting the borders of your bodies by saying that a condom is a must, I seriously wonder if you all can make the connection as to why persons engage in such risky behavior.

The point that I'm making is actually a compliment to you for having that standard, by the way. I just question the efficiency of the methods that would be recommended to curb such behavior when one doesn't understand it.

YOU would be able to, of course. I forgot who I'm talking to

Naive or merely uninformed?


NO I cant relate to an 18 year old who has had 22 partners....cause I is still a virgin :D..

no comments from the peanut gallery....but seriously.. my talk is never about disuading them from doing what they want.. my talk is about educating them about their choices... sex is more than the act... there are other components to it.. and i want to make sure they are physically and emotionally prepared.. and i keep it real with them...i just want to make sure they have the knowledge it is up to them to make the decision... but that comes from first having a relationshio with them where we can talk openly and frankly about things... but I get your point...

generalcrazy
09-23-08, - 06:40 PM
so says the woman with the pregnatn teenage. yorrik point is correct to the point that teen agers WILL NOT ABSTAIN so why push that point like its gospel.
i say give them the options of dry humping, oral, digital stimulation, masterbation.
the fact of life is people like to get off with each other and science proves that people are at their hoorniest in their teen and early adult years

das wer me an science ga have to respectively disagree.
:bouncy::bouncy:

livingupnorth
09-23-08, - 06:54 PM
LIVINGUPNORTH, IN YOUR OPINION, WHERE DO YOU THINK AIDS CAME FROM?

well as a scientist one of the strongest arguements that i have heard so far is the arguement that aids was a a disease of other primates and that it infected humans by transmission through the blood of the primate. I tend to believe this theory, which is sometimes refered to as HIV "jumping species", which is an evolutionary mechanism of sorts. see the following link for more info.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/qa3.htm

generalcrazy
09-23-08, - 06:56 PM
NO I cant relate to an 18 year old who has had 22 partners....cause I is still a virgin :D..
no comments from the peanut gallery....but seriously.. my talk is never about disuading them from doing what they want.. my talk is about educating them about their choices... sex is more than the act... there are other components to it.. and i want to make sure they are physically and emotionally prepared.. and i keep it real with them...i just want to make sure they have the knowledge it is up to them to make the decision... but that comes from first having a relationshio with them where we can talk openly and frankly about things... but I get your point...
stop yah lies debil !! :hammer:
:bouncy::bouncy:

d1973
09-23-08, - 07:01 PM
stop yah lies debil !! :hammer:
:bouncy::bouncy:


enn i say no comments from da peanut gallery.....yinna tink yall bad cause ya gat da trust ta da throat.....in da womans army we gat da jook ta da jugular.. you wan one a dem aye

iffen i say i is a virgin.. den i is a virgin... NA SHUT UP...you aine see my halo and my wings aye :angel:
Lord God please fagive me fa lying... :angel:

generalcrazy
09-23-08, - 07:03 PM
enn i say no comments from da peanut gallery.....yinna tink yall bad cause ya gat da trust ta da throat.....in da womans army we gat da jook ta da jugular.. you wan one a dem aye
iffen i say i is a virgin.. den i is a virgin... NA SHUT UP...you aine see my halo and my wings aye :angel:
Lord God please fagive me fa lying... :angel:
i ga pull one groups move an run to da kawna now.
:realmad::realmad:

d1973
09-23-08, - 07:48 PM
i ga pull one groups move an run to da kawna now.
:realmad::realmad:


yea ya bettera run ta da kawna....with ya crazy sef :D