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mick
06-02-05, - 11:03 PM
Marichal: This is pure foolishness & can only come from someone born out of wedlock.

Honestly I really want to call you a Jackass, but before I do please explain that statment :tdown:

canewry
06-03-05, - 01:39 AM
Marichal: This is pure foolishness & can only come from someone born out of wedlock.

Honestly I really want to call you a Jackass, but before I do please explain that statment :tdown:

lol, here, here

RockWell
06-03-05, - 01:13 PM
Marichal: This is pure foolishness & can only come from someone born out of wedlock.

Honestly I really want to call you a Jackass, but before I do please explain that statment :tdown:
Go right ahead,because YOUR opinion will not change my way off thinking, & I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot what you would say. :rolleyes:

RockWell
06-03-05, - 01:25 PM
All right let me break it down for the simple.You are in a marriage,be it male or female,joint bank account,mortgage,car payment etc.Do you think it is reasonable for an outsider to come in an lay a claim to what you worked all your life for.We as a people are to easy to condone slackness,I could go on but I think I will stop on this point,No one & I mean no one should have a child unless they are fully capable of taking care of that child by themself.

bahmaboy
06-03-05, - 08:42 PM
marchal this is so true in this day and time if you cant afford it dont make it, there is just too much technology and preventative measures avaliable to us to be having "mistakes." i am like isnt it better to pay 5.00 for a box of dooms rather than 250,000.00 (the amount it takes to raise a kid until college) I think the reason why the law doesnt encourage outside children to be able to claim on a will is to encourage people to have kids only with in a marriage but these people today dont care about the consequences of sex.

finekameo
06-03-05, - 11:55 PM
Marichal: This is pure foolishness & can only come from someone born out of wedlock.

Honestly I really want to call you a Jackass, but before I do please explain that statment :tdown:


I think I agree with Marichal here. Let me explain why before you call me a Jacka** too.

My mom and dad got married, conceived me, then divorced. My dad has since remarried and has had children with his wife. They have built apartment complexes together and do have joint banking accounts. Based on my understanding, from the perspective of his current marriage, I am an outside child since his current wife is not my mother.

Do I have equal rights to the assests they have amassed as his children with his wife??? NO!!! The current assests they have together is a result of what my father and his wife have earned. His wife owes me nothing at all. I am entitled, however, to an equal share of whatever assets my father has amassed just as his kids with his wife is entitled to their share. This can get messy in determining what share of my father and his wife's colective assests he contributed to in order to determine what is mine. But I hope the logic in this argument is clear.

The previous post that prompted Marichal's response just wasn't clear about this. I (as an outside child) am entitled to an equal share solely of my father's assests as his children with his current wife.

canewry
06-04-05, - 02:08 AM
All right let me break it down for the simple.You are in a marriage,be it male or female,joint bank account,mortgage,car payment etc.Do you think it is reasonable for an outsider to come in an lay a claim to what you worked all your life for.We as a people are to easy to condone slackness,I could go on but I think I will stop on this point,No one & I mean no one should have a child unless they are fully capable of taking care of that child by themself.

Identical scenerio....
wife cheats on husband, child is born....of course child has the husband last name...mother dies years later, should the (outside) child have the same right as the legitimate children?

canewry
06-04-05, - 02:11 AM
I think I agree with Marichal here. Let me explain why before you call me a Jacka** too.

My mom and dad got married, conceived me, then divorced. My dad has since remarried and has had children with his wife. They have built apartment complexes together and do have joint banking accounts. Based on my understanding, from the perspective of his current marriage, I am an outside child since his current wife is not my mother.

Do I have equal rights to the assests they have amassed as his children with his wife??? NO!!! The current assests they have together is a result of what my father and his wife have earned. His wife owes me nothing at all. I am entitled, however, to an equal share of whatever assets my father has amassed just as his kids with his wife is entitled to their share. This can get messy in determining what share of my father and his wife's colective assests he contributed to in order to determine what is mine. But I hope the logic in this argument is clear.

The previous post that prompted Marichal's response just wasn't clear about this. I (as an outside child) am entitled to an equal share solely of my father's assests as his children with his current wife.

correct me if I am wrong, but i think Marichal is suggesting that you shouldn't be entitled.

finekameo
06-04-05, - 04:20 AM
correct me if I am wrong, but i think Marichal is suggesting that you shouldn't be entitled.


Sorry...let me try to clarify myself a bit more...had to re-read both sides again. I agree with Marichal that an "outside child" does not have a claim on all of the assets that result from a union, especially when one of the two parents contributing has no blood relation to this "outside child". If I understand correctly, this is why Marichal had a problem with the argument that racquel made earlier. She made a blanket statement that implied the "outside child" has a right to everything resulting from this union though only one individual in this union is the "outside child's" parent.

I agree that based on the way the argument was made, it doesn't make sense and isn't fair.

To restate the argument that racquel made, I would say that in my case, with my father remarried, I am equally entitled to his share of his assets just as my half brothers and sisters that resulted from his marriage.

It gets more complicated when a death is involved. For example, I would never claim a right to any assets that my father receives in the hypothetical situation that his wife dies, he inherits her estate, then he himself dies.

Rory
06-04-05, - 05:14 AM
Sorry...let me try to clarify myself a bit more...had to re-read both sides again. I agree with Marichal that an "outside child" does not have a claim on all of the assets that result from a union, especially when one of the two parents contributing has no blood relation to this "outside child". If I understand correctly, this is why Marichal had a problem with the argument that racquel made earlier. She made a blanket statement that implied the "outside child" has a right to everything resulting from this union though only one individual in this union is the "outside child's" parent.

I agree that based on the way the argument was made, it doesn't make sense and isn't fair.

To restate the argument that racquel made, I would say that in my case, with my father remarried, I am equally entitled to his share of his assets just as my half brothers and sisters that resulted from his marriage.

It gets more complicated when a death is involved. For example, I would never claim a right to any assets that my father receives in the hypothetical situation that his wife dies, he inherits her estate, then he himself dies.



still depends if he leaves you in his will ;)

finekameo
06-04-05, - 01:21 PM
still depends if he leaves you in his will ;)


I guess so...but how many people in the Bahamas actually bother with leaving a will.

Alien
06-04-05, - 07:07 PM
outside kids need just as much support as the wedlock kids..
its not their fault their popps and moms cant keep their pants on!!

RockWell
06-04-05, - 07:11 PM
outside kids need just as much support as the wedlock kids..
its not their fault their popps and moms cant keep their pants on!!
So why would you get pregnant for someone who you know is married or is not married to you?

Alien
06-04-05, - 07:59 PM
So why would you get pregnant for someone who you know is married or is not married to you?



that isnt the point...
the point is it happens..and people shouldnt be made to suffer!!

YorickBrown
06-04-05, - 08:57 PM
And here's another twist.

A relatively wealthy man dies. Out of the blue, women start popping up saying that their child was fathered by the deceased. How can that be proven after the man is in the ground, except to dig him up for some DNA?

There are some real "opportunists" out there. That's why the "sweetheart bill" got an overwhelming NO in the last referendum!