that isnt the point...
the point is it happens..and people shouldnt be made to suffer!!
So if you commit an offence & go to jail won't your kids also suffer?

i have to agree with finekemo's situaution that child should only be able to take part in what wealth the father accumilated by himself, not the wealth acculmiled with the present wife. if his parents were never married but the dead parent married someone else then the child shouldnt be able claim anything, and if the dead parent didnt marry anybody then all of their children should be able to claim, even though i agree this is not fair; life is just not fair at times and the child in this situation needs to take it up with his mom or dad as to the reason they did not get married.

yorrick if a man dies and a woman is claiming a baby is his they would test DNA from the mans mother, father, brother, or sister to determine weather the child is the dead mans.

most people in the bahamas dont have will cuase all they leavin behind is a bunch of DEBT. can yall imagine this:

i John Doe II being of sound mind and body leave my morgage to sheana
my car payments to tino, the medical bills to greg, all my broke down furniture to tony. LOL :shaky:

i agree with the general consensus on the responsibility of adults 2 their kids point blank,whether "outside" or otherwise,i can only speak 4 myself and that is NONE OF MY KIDS ARE ILLEGITIMATE,married 2 their moms or not,now if the crown affords you a piece of paper that you feel alleviates you of your responsibilities 2 your own kids then you're a star8 coward,even if you say it interferes with your present marriage you're still a bigger coward cause you made the kids ba4 you got hitched and theres no excuse cause if you were din your duty you wouldn't have 2 separate your role as a parent cause you have a new life/wife, upon their entry 2 life i signed their birth certificates,it is our responsibility 2 ensure their welfare,education ecad ecad nonetheless,there's no loop-hole in the law 4 me 2 hide behind, i don't gat that problem cause i can't hide,i wanted 2 crash into-life and be a man and that i am,iim my kids father and i love it.

i agree with the general consensus on the responsibility of adults 2 their kids point blank,whether "outside" or otherwise,i can only speak 4 myself and that is NONE OF MY KIDS ARE ILLEGITIMATE,married 2 their moms or not,now if the crown affords you a piece of paper that you feel alleviates you of your responsibilities 2 your own kids then you're a star8 coward,even if you say it interferes with your present marriage you're still a bigger coward cause you made the kids ba4 you got hitched and theres no excuse cause if you were din your duty you wouldn't have 2 separate your role as a parent cause you have a new life/wife, upon their entry 2 life i signed their birth certificates,it is our responsibility 2 ensure their welfare,education ecad ecad nonetheless,there's no loop-hole in the law 4 me 2 hide behind, i don't gat that problem cause i can't hide,i wanted 2 crash into-life and be a man and that i am,iim my kids father and i love it.


it is sooo good to see an upstanding bahamian dad. u are so right, the same can also be said for women too. IF YINNA BRING CHIRREN IN TO DIS WORLD IT IS UR RESPONSIBILTY 2 ensure their welfare,education ETC. NOT THEIR ANNIE, OR GRAND MOTHER. i hope we soon get off of this roller coaster of destruction

u dont think it is shameful for a man to lie down and make a baby and never look back at it. never once tell that child he loves them, never once wish them happy birthday, never see them!!! THAT'S NOT SHAMEFUL?. He should be a shamed to know that by doing these things he increases his off springs chance to lead a destructive lifestyle. for some reason many bahamians are ignorant to the fact that by doing these things they damage children, they literally damage the future.

I agree; parents must be more responsible in order to raise healthy (both physically and mentally) children, who in turn will lead a more productive and forward society. Having your fun then denying the consequences only perpetrates cowardice, pain, and ill-will for future generations. What kind of qualities are those for our future leaders?

people wonder why homosexuality is going up, it is becuase fatherless homes are goin up. it has been proven that when a little boy grows up with out a father that it increases his chances for homosexual behaviour, not becuase he is gay but becuase he never knew what it was for a man to say i am proud of you son, i love you son, he never got to feel his daddy's beard and so when he grows up he looks for this in a sexual fashion. same can be said for girls when they grow up with no father to love them, they tend to have damamge realtionships with men and tend to be more promiscious. CHILDREN NEED THEIR PARENTS

Not so fast, bahmaboy lol. Where exactly has it been proven that fatherless families turn out homosexual children (boys)? I know of many gay men whose fathers were very much present in their lives, as well as many heterosexual men whose fathers weren't there. Are lesbians then a product of motherless families? I understand (and agree with) what you mean about the importance of fathers in their children's lives; they help to provide a sense of stability, as well as moral support and authority. But to assert that their absence leads to homosexuality is a bit inaccurate.

NASBWI and Vicky,

i am not saying that if a boy does not have a father he WILL be homosexual. in no way am i saying that. what i am saying is it DOES lead a SMALL MINORITY of boys in that direction or in a small minority of boys it increases their chances. you and vicky are saying there is NO WAY it can lead a small number of boys in that direction. i say how do yall know there is no way. i know this may sound strange since i believe sexuality is something your born with but what i am saying i believe there are a small number of boys out there that are hetrosexual at birth but becuase they have no male indenity to reinforce their sexuality they end up "dabbling" in same sex encounters. after these encountetrs some stay on that side exlusivly, some mow both sides of the lawn, and some go on to lead strickty hetrosexual lives.

i know some of you guys on here dont like links but here they go:

http://www.narth.com/docs/1996papers/dickson.html - this link is reffering to how father son relationships aid in male sexual development

http://www.fathersforlife.org/dale/preventi.html - vicky before you have a heart attack about what is on this site please remeber that i do not agree with everything that is said here, i do know that some of this Dr's findings are totally close minded but i must say i do believe he has scratched the surface of what i am tring to say.

http://www.mindprod.com/ggloss/blurb.html - i like this site, i think this guy is onto something.

there are tons of studys out there that support that a fatherless home increases the chances of sexualy promiscutiy in girls, increases the chances of sexual abuse in the home, increases the chances for destructive children, increases the chances for social problems in general. some of these study's are more radical in thier approach than others. i believe that in a very small minority of homes this does lead to these problems, but it depends on the home and the people. accourding to these study's me and my sister should have been the biggest screw ups in society but we are not in fact a can name a few families i know that had both parents in the home and their children is a boil on our societies back.

Bahmaboy:

The site you recommended (mindprod) raises some interesting opinions, but the author of the passage failed to examine exactly how the absence of a father figure contributes to the sexual behaviour of a child. Many of us are born with two present parental figures; some of us aren't. However, the parent(s) who is (are) around are responsible for our upbringing. I'm not saying that one parent isn't needed, but that the task of instilling a sense of right and wrong, good judgement and character, etc can be undertaken (successfully, might I add) by one devoted parent.

With regard to your comment about an absence of fathers not causing boys to be gay, I'm not saying that at all. But see, the arguments as to why some people are gay are so cloudy at the moment, it's difficult to take sides. Born or bred? Who knows for sure? There's no concrete scientific evidence to support either argument, which is why it would be foolish to say "I was born gay" or "My father wasn't around, so I'm gay." I try to stay away from such arguments for that very reason. You say that the negligence of wayward fathers contributes to some boys "turning" gay, but you also made it seem as though it's a major reason (at least, that's what I got from it). "Some" doesn't constitute major in my books, and it's very easy to make wayward fathers the scapegoat, yes?

I think the reason why the law doesnt encourage outside children to be able to claim on a will is to encourage people to have kids only with in a marriage but these people today dont care about the consequences of sex.

the law does recognize these children now what the hell are you talking about!

So if you commit an offence & go to jail won't your kids also suffer?


so too would the kids of your wife if you go to jail.....
but that still isnt the point!
the point is not shirking your responsibilities...
if you have children, it is your responsibility to ensure a stable enviornment, whether they live in your house or not!

Committing an offence and going to jail for it...is not and will not assist in securing a safe enviornment for your kids, outside or inside!

and i know you are going to say...well "i must be an outside child too" :p ,and actualy i am not....moms and popps were married,then a nasty divorce "thank goodness its over"...but i do have a feeling for people born out of wedlock....
they feel on the outside, alone, uncared for by the other parent, depressed and feeling guilty!!!
But i can honestly say God watches....he makes leaders out of the outcast,and ostrasized...he makes the refused stone the head corner stone....those kids make it, becasue from an early age they learn to do without...and, learn to depend on who matters the most!

But nothing beats having both parents around "who are functioning"....
but second to that...and a distant second, is the fact that one single functioning parent is better than having two parents and one is abusive and dysfunctional, which makes the other parent abusive an dysfunctional!!
and sometimes...people not being together can serve a better purpose than them being together.

i was trying not to get too into it with this to you....but you seem as if you have some un-resolved issues with your parents or family that stems from "illegitimate" kids...
i hope you learn to love all of your family if this is so...and you learn to disseminate the real bad family members, from the good ones..."the ones you can count on in the clutch"..and as i have learned buddy, it isnt all the time the so called blood family are the ones you can count on.....
I HAVE MORE LOVE FOR MY OUTSIDE SISTER, THAN ALMOST ANY ONE IN THE WORLD!
she has shown me more kindness and love that any person in the world..in a very close second to my mother and aunt....I WOULD GO TO BAT FOR HER ANY DAY...but i cant say that for most of my closer "Blood" relatives uncles and aunts included!
:tup:

And here's another twist.

A relatively wealthy man dies. Out of the blue, women start popping up saying that their child was fathered by the deceased. How can that be proven after the man is in the ground, except to dig him up for some DNA?


dna testing dig his arse up he only 6 feet under!

so too would the kids of your wife if you go to jail.....
but that still isnt the point!
the point is not shirking your responsibilities...
if you have children, it is your responsibility to ensure a stable enviornment, whether they live in your house or not!

Committing an offence and going to jail for it...is not and will not assist in securing a safe enviornment for your kids, outside or inside!

and i know you are going to say...well "i must be an outside child too" :p ,and actualy i am not....moms and popps were married,then a nasty divorce "thank goodness its over"...but i do have a feeling for people born out of wedlock....
they feel on the outside, alone, uncared for by the other parent, depressed and feeling guilty!!!
But i can honestly say God watches....he makes leaders out of the outcast,and ostrasized...he makes the refused stone the head corner stone....those kids make it, becasue from an early age they learn to do without...and, learn to depend on who matters the most!

But nothing beats having both parents around "who are functioning"....
but second to that...and a distant second, is the fact that one single functioning parent is better than having two parents and one is abusive and dysfunctional, which makes the other parent abusive an dysfunctional!!
and sometimes...people not being together can serve a better purpose than them being together.

Very well said, yk2bad. :cheers:

dna testing dig his arse up he only 6 feet under!


That's what I'm thinkin'. Of course, there are other ways without disturbing the late father. The courts could subpoena blood tests from the surving legitimate children of the deceased to determine paternity.

NASBWI and Vicky,

i say how do yall know there is no way. i know this may sound strange since i believe sexuality is something your born with but what i am saying i believe there are a small number of boys out there that are hetrosexual at birth but becuase they have no male indenity to reinforce their sexuality they end up "dabbling" in same sex encounters. after these encountetrs some stay on that side exlusivly, some mow both sides of the lawn, and some go on to lead strickty hetrosexual lives.
:screw: Like I said in an earlier post we are always fining names & making excuses for sin.For the last time it is impossible for someone to be born a homosexual.We are not animals ,all human responses are a learned behaviour. eg You take two twins born @ birth & seperate them put one in England & the next In France & its a guarantee that one will speak english & the other french,the rest of their characteristics will also be a learned & thought out response. FYI Humans are not animals!

it is sooo good to see an upstanding bahamian dad. u are so right, the same can also be said for women too. IF YINNA BRING CHIRREN IN TO DIS WORLD IT IS UR RESPONSIBILTY 2 ensure their welfare,education ETC. NOT THEIR ANNIE, OR GRAND MOTHER. i hope we soon get off of this roller coaster of destruction
Thanx Bahmaboy on da real tho,i try 2 encourage my friends and associates 2 own-up 2 there responsibilties as fathers no matter what,most-times they blame the mothers,they say she have a new man,so that's the excuse they use 2 convince themselves 2 punk-out,that's a shame fellas,a disgrace,a real man would make arrangement 2 share his soul and time with his kids no matter the cost,even if the mothers tell you she don't need your help with your kids,be a man,respect their mother and her privacy but also be involved with your kids developement,big respect YK2BAD.

so too would the kids of your wife if you go to jail.....
but that still isnt the point!
the point is not shirking your responsibilities...
if you have children, it is your responsibility to ensure a stable enviornment, whether they live in your house or not!

Committing an offence and going to jail for it...is not and will not assist in securing a safe enviornment for your kids, outside or inside!

and i know you are going to say...well "i must be an outside child too" :p ,and actualy i am not....moms and popps were married,then a nasty divorce "thank goodness its over"...but i do have a feeling for people born out of wedlock....
they feel on the outside, alone, uncared for by the other parent, depressed and feeling guilty!!!
But i can honestly say God watches....he makes leaders out of the outcast,and ostrasized...he makes the refused stone the head corner stone....those kids make it, becasue from an early age they learn to do without...and, learn to depend on who matters the most!

But nothing beats having both parents around "who are functioning"....
but second to that...and a distant second, is the fact that one single functioning parent is better than having two parents and one is abusive and dysfunctional, which makes the other parent abusive an dysfunctional!!
and sometimes...people not being together can serve a better purpose than them being together.

i was trying not to get too into it with this to you....but you seem as if you have some un-resolved issues with your parents or family that stems from "illegitimate" kids...
i hope you learn to love all of your family if this is so...and you learn to disseminate the real bad family members, from the good ones..."the ones you can count on in the clutch"..and as i have learned buddy, it isnt all the time the so called blood family are the ones you can count on.....
I HAVE MORE LOVE FOR MY OUTSIDE SISTER, THAN ALMOST ANY ONE IN THE WORLD!
she has shown me more kindness and love that any person in the world..in a very close second to my mother and aunt....I WOULD GO TO BAT FOR HER ANY DAY...but i cant say that for most of my closer "Blood" relatives uncles and aunts included!
:tup:
No unresovled issues here,& I think you misunderstood my post.My issue is with these women having kids & saying the father is responsible for them.My point y2k is that NO ONE should have any kids without being sure that they can take care of that child alone. ps I grew up in a stable home with a brother & two sisters along with mum & dad who were together for more than 40 yrs up to the time of my mums death two years ago, so I can not relate to what you speak of.