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Great Demos 06-08-05, - 10:30 PM There are two points which I believe should be considered to help with this discussion:
1. Why is it so necessary for men to have sweethearts or girls on the side? (Is a nagging or inconsiderate wife the cause or what?).
2. For the most part when persons engage in sex, do they EVER think about pregnancy or kids coming out of the act? I think not -- their minds are so engrossed in the pleasures and excitement of the encounter, they even een thinkin!
2. For the most part when persons engage in sex, do they EVER think about pregnancy or kids coming out of the act? I think not -- their minds are so engrossed in the pleasures and excitement of the encounter, they even een thinkin!
specialy when dey bust right up!! :cheers:
bahmaboy 06-09-05, - 05:55 PM Come now Bahmaboy, you should know that no contraceptive is 100% effective. Condoms break, women forget to take their bc pills, their cycles are just warped up. Even some women who have had their tubes tied have become pregnant unless you have an all out hysterectomy (a little harsh if you ask me). So in essence s*** happens, whether we want it to or not.
i know no contraceptive is 100% but if a man and a woman are having a exclusive sexual relationship if she doesnt forget her pill and he wraps it up everytime the chances of them having a baby is like a billion to 1. you know where all these unwanted baby's coming from? i'll tell you where they come from i would say 99% of these unwanted pregnancies come from people being irresponsible with their bodies and trowin dem selves bout da place.
scenario 1- go out drinking, get drunk, have sex with someone they barely know and becuase they are drunk sometime no condom is used, if one is used it is used incorrectly, or it can break. but becuase she isnt on the pill or "forgets" to take it BOOM ya gat a baby
scenario 2- go pick up somebody in a bar, get all cuaght up in the heat of moment and dont use a condom, or they use one and it breaks. becuase she aint on the pill ya gat a baby.
any way all i am trying to say if more people will take the stand not to be havin these drunken romps and one night stand, use every form of contraceptive ie condoms in conjuction with constant pill use and decide to have 100% responsible sex only with in the confines of a exclusive relationship, i am not talking marriage but a mutual relationship. unwanted pregnancies would drop.
i know people say man you can be like that man shiat happens. all i could say is this is 2005 AIDS running wild and yinna cant afford these babies so this aint no time to be "forgetting" pills and condoms, and sleeping with random people or in a sexual relationship with 2 and 3 people with in the same time frame or think sweat heartin is harmless fun. SEX IS GREAT BUT IT IS NOT WORTH THE HEART ACHE. i wish more of my people would see this and use more self control, and if yinna need more sexin up than your exlusive BF or GF could give ya put yall fantasies in motion. men use ya hand and women buy one of those special friends to tide ya over.
bahmaboy 06-09-05, - 06:14 PM There are two points which I believe should be considered to help with this discussion:
1. Why is it so necessary for men to have sweethearts or girls on the side? (Is a nagging or inconsiderate wife the cause or what?).
Great Demos, only God knows. i know one thing it has just been accepted in our society by both men and women that this is acceptable behaviour. the only way this is going to change is every man needs to have more repect for his body by not knockin it bout da place and every women need not to put up with it (if your man say or u find out he cheatin get the hell out of that realtionship. NO SECOND CHANCES period) people need to think, if someone cheat on you they put your life in danger, is that person worth dying for literally? thats my motto: u cheat i am outta there, it may hurt but it has to be done. I MEAN IT PAINS ME TO KNOW HALF OF THE PEOPLE IN THEIR GRAVE FROM AIDS DIDNT NEED TO BE THERE. also in our society for what ever reason the more woman and chirldren you have the more of a man you are. i think its gross.
2. For the most part when persons engage in sex, do they EVER think about pregnancy or kids coming out of the act? I think not -- their minds are so engrossed in the pleasures and excitement of the encounter, they even een thinkin!
these people dont care, all they care about at the time is gettin off. most of the unwanted pregnancies and STD's come from irresponsible sex. every man should wrap it up every time and for every act (inc. oral) and every woman should constatantly take her pill, and dont forget either. you aint forgetting to have sex so you MUST BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR BODY. if you are not doing these things, you are having irresponsible sex. all i know is i never walk into the bedroom without my thinking cap on. cuase times too serious to be playin around.
Alien 06-10-05, - 11:56 AM i know no contraceptive is 100% but if a man and a woman are having a exclusive sexual relationship if she doesnt forget her pill and he wraps it up everytime the chances of them having a baby is like a billion to 1. you know where all these unwanted baby's coming from? i'll tell you where they come from i would say 99% of these unwanted pregnancies come from people being irresponsible with their bodies and trowin dem selves bout da place.
scenario 1- go out drinking, get drunk, have sex with someone they barely know and becuase they are drunk sometime no condom is used, if one is used it is used incorrectly, or it can break. but becuase she isnt on the pill or "forgets" to take it BOOM ya gat a baby
scenario 2- go pick up somebody in a bar, get all cuaght up in the heat of moment and dont use a condom, or they use one and it breaks. becuase she aint on the pill ya gat a baby.
any way all i am trying to say if more people will take the stand not to be havin these drunken romps and one night stand, use every form of contraceptive ie condoms in conjuction with constant pill use and decide to have 100% responsible sex only with in the confines of a exclusive relationship, i am not talking marriage but a mutual relationship. unwanted pregnancies would drop.
i know people say man you can be like that man shiat happens. all i could say is this is 2005 AIDS running wild and yinna cant afford these babies so this aint no time to be "forgetting" pills and condoms, and sleeping with random people or in a sexual relationship with 2 and 3 people with in the same time frame or think sweat heartin is harmless fun. SEX IS GREAT BUT IT IS NOT WORTH THE HEART ACHE. i wish more of my people would see this and use more self control, and if yinna need more sexin up than your exlusive BF or GF could give ya put yall fantasies in motion. men use ya hand and women buy one of those special friends to tide ya over.
we acknowledge your point!
along with your high morals and imperviousness to thei matter!
bahmaboy 06-10-05, - 01:12 PM we acknowledge your point!
along with your high morals and imperviousness to thei matter!
really i dont have high morals you know. i think that it is just common sense that in this day and time it is not wise to be hopin in bed with any and every body and to be getting drunk cuase you could do somethin that you will regret later (do you relise there are some folks out there that will purposly take advantage of a drunk person and purposly pass HIV to them). i am not impervious to the matter, i am fully aware that sometimes things happen and that no one is free from making mistakes but it is the majority of our society that is impervious to the fact that each individual should do ALL they can to reduce their personal risk of becoming a sexual statistic (not vell he wrapin it up so i dont need to be on the pill, or vell she on the pill so i dont need to wrap it up) what angers me is in our society over 95% of the pop knows how to protect themselves so why is it that we make such a HIGH rate of mistakes? all i know is i love my life and will do all i can to protect it, if others are happy with putting themselves in harm way; so be it.
Great Demos 06-10-05, - 07:26 PM Bahmaboy, what you are saying about promiscuous sex and aids is so true. About 10 years ago I heard some young fellows saying practically the same thing about being very careful and using condoms, etc. Things have gotten so much worse than they were 10 years ago, I mean its seems very bad as far as aids is concerned. Just today a lady was on Darrold Miller's talk show talking about some young persons who are intentionally spreading aids!!!
This is a very messy disease to deal with. Once ago it used to be said (or thought) that once a person gets very skinny he/she was suspected of having aids. I don't know if its true, but I heard that the treatment being given today could help aids victims to become fat and shapely, so you can't judge by looks any more!
Anyway, I hope persons heed your advice. Its just so terrible for lives to be snuffed out, which could have been saved if the right precautions were taken!
bahmaboy 06-11-05, - 02:53 PM Bahmaboy, what you are saying about promiscuous sex and aids is so true. About 10 years ago I heard some young fellows saying practically the same thing about being very careful and using condoms, etc. Things have gotten so much worse than they were 10 years ago, I mean its seems very bad as far as aids is concerned. Just today a lady was on Darrold Miller's talk show talking about some young persons who are intentionally spreading aids!!!
This is a very messy disease to deal with. Once ago it used to be said (or thought) that once a person gets very skinny he/she was suspected of having aids. I don't know if its true, but I heard that the treatment being given today could help aids victims to become fat and shapely, so you can't judge by looks any more!
Anyway, I hope persons heed your advice. Its just so terrible for lives to be snuffed out, which could have been saved if the right precautions were taken!
great damos i heard that woman on darold miller, man i wanted to cry so bad. it is very sad that her husband gave it to her. i think every sexualy active person, especially the teen agers, in the civilised world need to visit their local AIDS ward. man, when they look at those people and all the pain, i guarantee they would stop having so much casual sex and being so reckless. cuase that five minutes really aint worth it. but of course you cant tell who have AIDS, to people that think that they can. do they honestly believe that the people who contracted AIDS through sex, knowingly and willingly had sex with a HIV positive person?
H-Well 06-27-05, - 05:39 PM I think that before we can constructively comment on a topic as intricate as this one, we must first remove ourselves from the situation and keep our personal feelings and experiences out..... only then will we be able to objectively deal with the real issues....
I am the product of such a situation....and you know what... before I matured and realized that the only person responsible for my success or my failures is me, I would find everyone else to blame my failures on while I took credit for all of my successes on my own......
So,.... before you decide to place all the blame on the "absentee fathers" to whom do you give the credit..... if the names turn out to be different.....then... "someone" is being hypocritical..........
licks2 06-27-05, - 06:26 PM the first post is so RIGHT. where is the shame. but people i will tell you where it starts it starts with each person determing that they will be different from thier daddy; having 10 and 15 children out side of marriage and with different people. it starts with people determing to be different from their mummy by not shacking up with every tom, dick, and harry she met at the clubs or on bay street. the attitude of the second post determing not to do this to his children is right on. it is sad to see that these men and woman are ruining the bahamaian society future.
another thing i am tired of, is these people blaming bahamian men. it takes 2 to make a baby. the slack bahamian women know the dude have 2 and 5 children he dont check for but yet she still lay with him and expect him to treat hers any different!!!!!!!!!! YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL WHO SOMEONES SLEEPS WITH BUT YOU CAN CONTROL WHO THEY DO NOT GET TO SLEEP WITH
wake up bahamas we are in crisis
Outside children? THERE ARE ONLY OUTSIDE PARENTS!! The man or woman who have a child outside of marriage is the child's mother or father and all other children from that individual are biological brothers and sisters to that child!! Thus, the innocent parent is the odd one out...he or she has no comprehensive biological connection to that unique circle of people! But the offending parent and all of the children are in that circle of blood! That group are all one continuous blood drawn from that one parent veins. Brothers and sisters from one daddy or mother! Therefore, it stands to reason that the odd one out is the out-of-the-loop parent...the outside person! :dancer2:
bahmaboy 06-27-05, - 08:03 PM I think that before we can constructively comment on a topic as intricate as this one, we must first remove ourselves from the situation and keep our personal feelings and experiences out..... only then will we be able to objectively deal with the real issues....
I am the product of such a situation....and you know what... before I matured and realized that the only person responsible for my success or my failures is me, I would find everyone else to blame my failures on while I took credit for all of my successes on my own......
So,.... before you decide to place all the blame on the "absentee fathers" to whom do you give the credit..... if the names turn out to be different.....then... "someone" is being hypocritical..........
i need to give you a hand clap for the line in red. but i think the line in blue is a little off, if a father or mother was not there to ensure that the child they laid down to make was raised right, then they are to blame. becuase they didnt at least try to steer the child in the right direction
bahmaboy 06-27-05, - 08:08 PM Outside children? THERE ARE ONLY OUTSIDE PARENTS!! The man or woman who have a child outside of marriage is the child's mother or father and all other children from that individual are biological brothers and sisters to that child!! Thus, the innocent parent is the odd one out...he or she has no comprehensive biological connection to that unique circle of people! But the offending parent and all of the children are in that circle of blood! That group are all one continuous blood drawn from that one parent veins. Brothers and sisters from one daddy or mother! Therefore, it stands to reason that the odd one out is the out-of-the-loop parent...the outside person! :dancer2:
good observation. all i know is no child of mine is going to be considered outside and a bastard and all that other stuff. people just need to relise they need to do things correctly and stop adding so much drama and confusion to their lives. heres what i say if your going to put a child in these awkward situation they get ur tubes tied and ur boys snipped.
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