View Full Version : The Outside Children Phenomena
Tafadhali 05-17-05, - 05:48 PM Everyone is so concerned about the Haitian children in a “legal twilight” in this country, what about all the outside children- products of sweethearting. There is a need for attention to this, I know a few persons who never met their daddy children (inside the marriage) and his wife could care less!
Who is their voice out in the wilderness in Bahamian society?
There is a need for concern, well over 70% of Bahamian children are born to unmarried woman- where is the Bahamian pride and SHAME when you need it so. Outside children need love and guidance from full time parents. You wonder why some of um have trust issues and are so angry and ungrateful all the time- they didnt get the attention they needed!
Ironically, the Haitian children have both parents in their home, and a host of other illegal relatives and friends to help them in adolescence.
It does take a village to raise a child (pun intended).
k.o.o.l.b.o.n.z.e 05-17-05, - 06:15 PM then do away with monogamous marriage, i say throw it back to where a man or (in some cultures) woman can marry multiple partners so the hubby or wife dont get bored and has a kid by accident....but then again i'm just adding in to be proactive member of the site seeing as how i have no problem with outside kids...especially seeing as how i won't be having any either way :cheers:
Tafadhali 05-17-05, - 06:29 PM then do away with monogamous marriage, i say throw it back to where a man or (in some cultures) woman can marry multiple partners so the hubby or wife dont get bored and has a kid by accident....but then again i'm just adding in to be proactive member of the site seeing as how i have no problem with outside kids...especially seeing as how i won't be having any either way :cheers:
well you need to live in Africa or Utah then, plenty of that going on there
bahmaboy 05-18-05, - 04:39 AM the first post is so RIGHT. where is the shame. but people i will tell you where it starts it starts with each person determing that they will be different from thier daddy; having 10 and 15 children out side of marriage and with different people. it starts with people determing to be different from their mummy by not shacking up with every tom, dick, and harry she met at the clubs or on bay street. the attitude of the second post determing not to do this to his children is right on. it is sad to see that these men and woman are ruining the bahamaian society future.
another thing i am tired of, is these people blaming bahamian men. it takes 2 to make a baby. the slack bahamian women know the dude have 2 and 5 children he dont check for but yet she still lay with him and expect him to treat hers any different!!!!!!!!!! YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL WHO SOMEONES SLEEPS WITH BUT YOU CAN CONTROL WHO THEY DO NOT GET TO SLEEP WITH
wake up bahamas we are in crisis
k.o.o.l.b.o.n.z.e 05-18-05, - 01:30 PM where is the shame.
shame for what? what purpose does shame serve?
bahmaboy 05-18-05, - 01:51 PM u dont think it is shameful for a man to lie down and make a baby and never look back at it. never once tell that child he loves them, never once wish them happy birthday, never see them!!! THAT'S NOT SHAMEFUL?. He should be a shamed to know that by doing these things he increases his off springs chance to lead a destructive lifestyle. for some reason many bahamians are ignorant to the fact that by doing these things they damage children, they literally damage the future.
people wonder why homosexuality is going up, it is becuase fatherless homes are goin up. it has been proven that when a little boy grows up with out a father that it increases his chances for homosexual behaviour, not becuase he is gay but becuase he never knew what it was for a man to say i am proud of you son, i love you son, he never got to feel his daddy's beard and so when he grows up he looks for this in a sexual fashion. same can be said for girls when they grow up with no father to love them, they tend to have damamge realtionships with men and tend to be more promiscious. CHILDREN NEED THEIR PARENTS
it takes a strong person to be able to grow up and lead a productive life knowing that their father (usally thats the case in the bahamas) or mother is still alive and never ONCE came by just to say how you doin.
i would just like to know what is shameful to you sir/madaam?
n e one with me on this?
canewry 05-18-05, - 02:03 PM How did we get on this topic....
k.o.o.l.b.o.n.z.e 05-18-05, - 02:16 PM ^^newry...i have no idea either. well back to the discussion at hand, i agree with your first 2 sentences bahmaboy. if you had said that from the start i would understand where you were coming from.
bahmaboy 05-18-05, - 02:20 PM what topic, i was tying in the ways a fatherless home damages children. tell me if the facts i stated were all wrong. most of the times a outside child has no father, for goodness sake the ones born in marriage most of the times dont have a father. like the original post states i know more haitian families with both parents than i do bahamian families with both parents.
the problem is it is just accepted in the bahamas to be raised just by mummy.
i have heard bahamian women say that they expect thier man to cheat. what kind of foolishness is that?
Tafadhali 05-18-05, - 02:22 PM What's the big deal everything stated by the young man is relative to the outside children phenomena. Follow the leader instead of asking stupid questions canewry!
Hi everybody, I don't have much of an opinion on men (or women) having children "out of wed-lock" but it strongly offends me that a parent would not take care of their child.
And I know that the solution to this problem would to seize assets of the "dead-beat" parent..............but sadly if laws like this were put in place and ENFORCED then probably the lawmakers and others with the power to lobby for these changes will probably be among the first ones to be hauled into the courts.
racquel 05-18-05, - 09:45 PM There certainly is a big problem with children being born to unmarried parents, thus being raised by one parent. However, these children should not be consider "outside children", we (as women) have to change the ideology of outside children, yes the child (ren) were outside a marriage but because the conception was taken place by both parent they should have the right to all assets as children conceive inside the marriage but this require changing the way society thinks about children being born to unmarried parents.
On the other hand, parents too have to stop using the term because this reinforces the low self-esteem these children feel from not having both parents around, and lastly parents need to understand that the biggest disadvantage that they can do to their child (ren) is to talk about one parent (badly) to their children (child)
Tafadhali 05-19-05, - 06:01 PM On the other hand, parents too have to stop using the term because this reinforces the low self-esteem these children feel from not having both parents around, and lastly parents need to understand that the biggest disadvantage that they can do to their child (ren) is to talk about one parent (badly) to their children (child)
I think that terms comes from children being born inside the marriage except the wife is not the one having the brand new baby, thus outside child. It is shameful how women sleep with these men knowing fully the consequences, a disgrace!
Sad thing is most of the outside children come out looking more like their father than the inside children. But i wonder what they call children that are born before the marriage...first set of chirren? :D
RockWell 05-19-05, - 09:38 PM There certainly is a big problem with children being born to unmarried parents, thus being raised by one parent. However, these children should not be consider "outside children", we (as women) have to change the ideology of outside children, yes the child (ren) were outside a marriage but because the conception was taken place by both parent they should have the right to all assets as children conceive inside the marriage but this require changing the way society thinks about children being born to unmarried parents.
On the other hand, parents too have to stop using the term because this reinforces the low self-esteem these children feel from not having both parents around, and lastly parents need to understand that the biggest disadvantage that they can do to their child (ren) is to talk about one parent (badly) to their children (child)
This is pure foolishness & can only come from someone born out of wedlock.
bahmaboy 05-20-05, - 02:27 AM it is my understanding that an outside child is a child born unto a man or woman that is married but the child isnt their spouse's. it is also my understanding that a child born to both un wed parent is, excuse my language, a bas tard.
all i know is it is a disgrace that in the bahamas this is considered natural and exceptable behavior. example "dis marco, tina, and reno my firs set a chirren dem. dis gena, frankie, geraldo, and shika ma inside chirren wit ma wife. and dis shena, marco II, britney, and olga ma outside chirren and by da way dey all have diffrent muddas" :confused:
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