are they originals, or copies?

of course they are originals
wink, wink!

Im lost hun, are you kidding or ?
I thought it was legal to sell from a shop ?

It doesn't matter whether you are selling copy DVD's from a shop or not it is illegal both ways. That was just an excuse they used to not lock up the super video boys or cable bahamas.

not if they're a monopoly .. :shhh:

are they originals, or copies?



Copies, but at least we now have a "place" to go and buy them, I dont think Im getting anyone in trouble by saying that.

Nah, leave it....
It all adds to the entertainment...
You do have a civic duty to post your mind, and the powers that be, have a civic duty to do their job...
I applaud you...and encourage you to post even more controversial stuff.


Once, no one thinks thier was a motive behind my post

It doesn't matter whether you are selling copy DVD's from a shop or not it is illegal both ways. That was just an excuse they used to not lock up the super video boys or cable bahamas.



I see,
So explain to me in small words (lol) what keeps the police from "stopping" Super Video from selling/renting them ?

Thanks

Is the answer because it is DVD's point blank no matter where sold ?

I see,
So explain to me in small words (lol) what keeps the police from "stopping" Super Video from selling/renting them ?

Thanks

Is the answer because it is DVD's point blank no matter where sold ?


Do they sell Pirate DVDs? Or just the same crappy VCR copies like they used to? Asking cause i havent been back to that place in years .. couldnt take the bad quality anymore, same reason I would never watch a Pirate DVD, and dont download them from Kazaa anymore also ..! :eek:

Do they sell Pirate DVDs? Or just the same crappy VCR copies like they used to? Asking cause i havent been back to that place in years .. couldnt take the bad quality anymore, same reason I would never watch a Pirate DVD, and dont download them from Kazaa anymore also ..! :eek:


Well to be honest I have tried them from Super Video and always had a problem but this place down town has good copies, I must say "God bless them" cause girls who stay home most of the time like me are thankful for them

Well to be honest I have tried them from Super Video and always had a problem but this place down town has good copies, I must say "God bless them" cause girls who stay home most of the time like me are thankful for them


They are problably just ripping them themselves, from original CDs .. pirate ones are normally bad as they are captured with cam corders in movie theatres. Copies are different, as they can be high quality, though still illegal in countries with "enforced" copyright laws. Anyway, when you say downtown, do you mean Bay or Palmdale?

They are problably just ripping them themselves, from original CDs .. pirate ones are normally bad as they are captured with cam corders in movie theatres. Copies are different, as they can be high quality, though still illegal in countries with "enforced" copyright laws. Anyway, when you say downtown, do you mean Bay or Palmdale?



I ga pm you that just dont dis-regard the pm ( wink )

By the way direct tv is not illegal here. There was a lawsuit in the early days of the radio. The radio companies were suing and prosecuting persons who were stealing their signal. The supreme court decided that The air and what ever is in it is public property and that it was the job of the radio company to make their signal so that no one could hack onto it if the wanted to keep it private. That is why the radio industry moved to advertisement to make money instead of 'pay per hear'. So as long as you are no stealing their signal and selling it for profit- like cable bahamas is- you are not breaking any law.


If what you are saying is true, that would imply that any person who is able to break the encryption scheme of DTV would not be breaking any laws as long as they only used it for their own private viewing. Sorry, but that is only partially right. The mere fact the signal is encrypted implies restricted usage.

I however agree with your statement that decrypting and viewing DTV signals in the Bahamas is not a violation of any local copyright laws. DTV has to prove that the activities of consumers in the Bahamas caused harm to the company (loss profits). The problem with proving this is that DTV is not a legal company in the Bahamas and does not have a licence to broadcast here. If they are not a legal entity here and are not authorized to broadcast, they would have a very difficult time proving harm because there can be no expectation of profits from Bahamian consumers.

concerning dtv

Here is something i read

In Canada, the story has a different twist. In order to protect Canadian culture, the government limits the amount of US programming that local cable networks can carry. As a result, consumers buy dishes so that they can watch American TV. This, however, creates a problem: most American programmers don't own the right to sell their wares outside the United States. Consequently, they can't accept subscriptions from Canadian viewers, which means that of approximately 500,000 dishes in Canada, almost all are violating US copyright law, quite apart from regulations on the export of decoder equipment.

In Mexico and in the Bahamas, the situation is the same: you can't legally subscribe to US programming, which means that every single viewer, by definition, is violating US law.

Here is the full aritcle, its a good read. Its about a US dtv cracker who is based in the Bahamas.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/2.08/satellite_pr.html



Hey, don't be advertising my shop over the net like that....
She was just kidding, there is NO shop down town, that sells dvds...
Lady A...what you trying to do the Bahamas man...
Don't you know this site is popular on google...


I went to that store, I think its near Frederick St. I was hailing my boy who was using the internet and I saw a bunch of tourists there buying movies. I was a bit curious to see what they were buying so I went looking and yep, they were bootlegging em.

And while we are on the subject. I was in search of a blank cd, so I went into this 'multitasking barber shop'. In there they do 3 things. Run a game room, bootleg dvd's and cds, and cut hair, . What astonished me was the fact that the dudes had like wholesale PORN on a big screen tv, in plain site of little kids playing playstation and stuff. I found that really unacceptable and irresponsible.

Yeah its a good read, but notice the date, 1994, so much has changed in the world of DSS and hacking DSS since then ... its a been there done that now thing .. everyone has done it ..

i prefer this from ebloggy:

http://www.ebloggy.com/blog.php?username=Bahamian

scroll down to the Cable Guy column.

"Phil Keeping was the president of Cable Bahamas. He started out in Canada by 'catching' satellite signals and selling Cable to remote towns and villages on the Atlantic Coast in Canada. His companies there were called 'Regional' and 'Eastern'. He arrived on our shores a virtual bankrupt.

He was funded by prominent Bahamians. Take a look at the board of Cable Bahamas, and you will see one name in particular that is not like the others.

Not only was he propped up and funded, but the shenanigans didn't end. He got an exclusive monopoly for Cable provision, with a long list of promises of services, and several ways of opting out of those promises. Ont top of that, remember how they were caught red-handed stealing satellite signals. It wasn't an aberration in their way of doing business.

We went through a long and tortuous road of Cable Bahamas shares being 'sold' and then there was Persona and Columbus and various shell games when Keeping announced that he had divested his shares in Cable Bahamas. It was all a shell game.

Keeping's bum boy from way back was Brendan Paddick, who was at Regional and Persona and different incarnations of the companies that controlled Cable Bahamas.

Ostensibly, Keeping went to Barbados to play his shell game there while leaving his minions behind at Cable Bahamas.

Cable Bahamas has a stink on it a mile wide. But as mentioned in a previous blog entry, it is the only way that we do business here, because Fortune 500 companies get pissed off with our practices, and we are left with the carpetbaggers and scam artists, who do business by enriching themselves and their Bahamian friends and providing goods and services as a vehicle for doing that."

concerning dtv

In Canada, the story has a different twist. In order to protect Canadian culture, the government limits the amount of US programming that local cable networks can carry. As a result, consumers buy dishes so that they can watch American TV. This, however, creates a problem: most American programmers don't own the right to sell their wares outside the United States. Consequently, they can't accept subscriptions from Canadian viewers, which means that of approximately 500,000 dishes in Canada, almost all are violating US copyright law, quite apart from regulations on the export of decoder equipment.

In Mexico and in the Bahamas, the situation is the same: you can't legally subscribe to US programming, which means that every single viewer, by definition, is violating US law.



Interesting article, but far from being factual. This would be equal to the Bahamas Government saying that Americans using VOIP is in violation of Bahamian law.

I am not saying that cracking DTV is legal or illegal here. But if DTV were to take a Bahamian consumer to local court charging him with copyright violation, DTV would have a very difficult time proving harm or damages. There is a US legal doctrine called "The Economic Loss Doctrine". This doctrine says that there can be no liability if there is no physical or economic loss. In the case of DTV, a person could argue that DTV never expected profits from the Bahamas, therefore could not claim damages (not a legal company in the jurisdiction).