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casualobserver
06-03-05, - 03:11 PM
You also have to look at the fact that Voice Over IP is illegal and the telecoms infrastructure is pitiful. You'd also have to contend with Bahamian labor laws and foreign investment permissions.

You'd have to do some real beneficial cost analysis before attempting something like this.

YorickBrown
06-04-05, - 08:39 PM
You also have to look at the fact that Voice Over IP is illegal and the telecoms infrastructure is pitiful. You'd also have to contend with Bahamian labor laws and foreign investment permissions.

You'd have to do some real beneficial cost analysis before attempting something like this.

As far as my interpretation of the document on the PUC's website, VoIP is not illegal. The sale and local infrastructure implementation on an enterprise level is, however.

Vonage (http://www.vonage.com), Skype (http://www.skype.com), Net2phone (http://www.net2phone.com), Dialpad (http://www.dialpad.com) and Packet 8 (http://www.8x8.com) are making some real money from these islands. Can you say Port 80? Poor people fed up!

A call center over here in the Bahamas is an excellent idea. It is being done already on a small scale by some local computer companies. Email me for more info: admin@techknowledgeit.com

Rory
06-04-05, - 11:35 PM
Skype is P2P so its actually technically different, similar in everything it does, but different technology .. i just created a video phone program using their API . .. not ready though for another few weeks .. was meant for the asian, NY connection though (tech support). .. but anyone can use it foe free.

casualobserver
06-05-05, - 09:28 AM
Skype is P2P so its actually technically different, similar in everything it does, but different technology .. i just created a video phone program using their API . .. not ready though for another few weeks .. was meant for the asian, NY connection though (tech support). .. but anyone can use it foe free.


Don't you think that BTC would angle to have some law inacted to protect them, if a huge amount of telecoms left thier circuits? If they couldn't profit from this, they'd try to block it!

Believe me, I think it's a great idea. Hospitality minded employees can be found easily in the Bahamas, so as long as you can get by the technical side of it all, you're in good shape. :dancer2:

bahmaboy
06-05-05, - 12:15 PM
well BTC and the bahamian gov cant do a damn thing about VOIP phones. what are they going to do come around to every ones house and snatch it away? please they would be outta commission from the first day. all they can do is ban them from entering the country, they can do this cuase i already got mine. LOL. but even USA phone companies lossin out cuase i use to pay about 150.00 per month but after VOIP i spend 30.00 a month for local and long distance what a deal. over a period of a year thats 1400 bucks i keep outta dem greedy telecomunications thieves hands. I LOVE IT

casualobserver
06-05-05, - 12:24 PM
well BTC and the bahamian gov cant do a damn thing about VOIP phones. what are they going to do come around to every ones house and snatch it away? please they would be outta commission from the first day. all they can do is ban them from entering the country, they can do this cuase i already got mine. LOL. but even USA phone companies lossin out cuase i use to pay about 150.00 per month but after VOIP i spend 30.00 a month for local and long distance what a deal. over a period of a year thats 1400 bucks i keep outta dem greedy telecomunications thieves hands. I LOVE IT


Until they start taxing your bandwidth usage! Your internet provider (I assume CableBahamas) can easily add a charge to the bill for bandwidth usage. Render unto Caesar...

Rory
06-05-05, - 01:43 PM
Until they start taxing your bandwidth usage! Your internet provider (I assume CableBahamas) can easily add a charge to the bill for bandwidth usage. Render unto Caesar...


they can even disconnect your account ... they threaten this for people that download movies ... even though them themselves are stealing signals ..

garnelleo
06-05-05, - 03:54 PM
they can even disconnect your account ... they threaten this for people that download movies ... even though them themselves are stealing signals ..


My boy told me that CB called his house, then asked for the account holder's name. Then when he told then that she wasnt there they told him that dling movies infringes on copyright laws, and that he should ciest and decist.

Another thing, I emailed the PUC about VoIP laws, and they, of course, failed to respond.

bahmaboy
06-05-05, - 04:02 PM
Until they start taxing your bandwidth usage! Your internet provider (I assume CableBahamas) can easily add a charge to the bill for bandwidth usage. Render unto Caesar...



they can do this, i am actually all for this approach, i am a major oppnent for this kind of taxation in the Bahamas. unfortunatly our gov dont have enough business sence for such a plan. also i think the people that dont have VOIP would make noise.

to the person that said CB call their huouse talkin all that noise. let me tell you all they was doin was callin random customers trying to scare people. please. :shaky:

Jimmy Geek
06-06-05, - 05:34 PM
well BTC and the bahamian gov cant do a damn thing about VOIP phones. what are they going to do come around to every ones house and snatch it away? please they would be outta commission from the first day. all they can do is ban them from entering the country, they can do this cuase i already got mine. LOL. but even USA phone companies lossin out cuase i use to pay about 150.00 per month but after VOIP i spend 30.00 a month for local and long distance what a deal. over a period of a year thats 1400 bucks i keep outta dem greedy telecomunications thieves hands. I LOVE IT

Unfortunately, the free ride with VOIP is coming to an end. The US Federal government and local US municipalities are enacting laws that will require VIOP carriers like Vonage to accommodate 911-call tracking. The way it would work is to create a database with US ISP IP addresses that would be mapped to area codes. If this happens, using the Vonage service (through a US account) would require a valid US IP address. I know there are ways around such restrictions, but the result would be that it centralized VOIP services would be more difficult to use here.

Except for Skype, most VOIP services can be easily blocked. Most use the H.323 protocol suite for establishing and terminating VOIP sessions. Skype, because of its P2P background, can avoid any casual attempts to block it through simple port blocking.

Tafadhali
06-06-05, - 05:40 PM
I don't think there are children writing code, or working in call center operations, these are skilled positions.


you would be surprised what else children are doing

Tafadhali
06-06-05, - 05:51 PM
The Bahamas has child labour laws ... and the cost of living here is far too high for the wages they receive in India for outsourcing software, etc.

lol

bahmaboy
06-07-05, - 11:01 AM
Unfortunately, the free ride with VOIP is coming to an end. The US Federal government and local US municipalities are enacting laws that will require VIOP carriers like Vonage to accommodate 911-call tracking. The way it would work is to create a database with US ISP IP addresses that would be mapped to area codes. If this happens, using the Vonage service (through a US account) would require a valid US IP address. I know there are ways around such restrictions, but the result would be that it centralized VOIP services would be more difficult to use here.

Except for Skype, most VOIP services can be easily blocked. Most use the H.323 protocol suite for establishing and terminating VOIP sessions. Skype, because of its P2P background, can avoid any casual attempts to block it through simple port blocking.



dont forget, there will just be VOIP start-ups outside of the USA. this situation displays why i have a love/hate relationship with the USA. they always spoiling everything. but then again they looking out for their own people.

bahmaboy
06-07-05, - 11:02 AM
you would be surprised what else children are doing


LMOA, U AINT LYIN

casualobserver
06-07-05, - 11:17 AM
Except for Skype, most VOIP services can be easily blocked. Most use the H.323 protocol suite for establishing and terminating VOIP sessions. Skype, because of its P2P background, can avoid any casual attempts to block it through simple port blocking.


Skype still will use trackable (and billable) bandwidth, so therefore it too will be regulated one way or another through the ISP. :tdown: