The Bible say in Romans 1:20 that “ For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse.”

God is the number one Subject in the world today and has been since the beginning of this world. Wars have and are being fought over this Subject, families separated, countries and races divided, laws changed, leaders born, history made and all over one God whom many don't even believe exists. The proof I have that Jesus exists is because of the life that exists around me.

In early 1967 Martin Luther King JR, while on a fishing trip here in the Bahamas ask this question as he marveled at the water: “ How can someone look at all of this life around them and not believe in God?”

I have asked that same question many times but I never got a clear answer until it was revealed to me in the Bible.

The questions are:

1. What proof do you have of the existence of God?

2. How can someone look at all of this life around them and not believe in God?

3. What has happened in your life to convince you that God exists?

4. How can it be proved to others the God exists?

5. What proof do you have that He doesn't exist?

Please post your comments on this issue below.

I see that at the current time, 83% of you have voted for the existence of god, but not one of you is brave enough to stand up and explain why. That makes sense though, since you don't have enough courage to run your own lives, only fall in line with the rest of the brainless sheep and let your pastor/priest/minister lead your around by your wallet and dictate to you how to live your lives.

Originally posted by Delroy
The Bible say in Romans 1:20 that “ For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse.”

God is the number one Subject in the world today and has been since the beginning of this world. Wars have and are being fought over this Subject, families separated, countries and races divided, laws changed, leaders born, history made and all over one God whom many don't even believe exists. The proof I have that Jesus exists is because of the life that exists around me.

In early 1967 Martin Luther King JR, while on a fishing trip here in the Bahamas ask this question as he marveled at the water: “ How can someone look at all of this life around them and not believe in God?”

I have asked that same question many times but I never got a clear answer until it was revealed to me in the Bible.

The questions are:

1. What proof do you have of the existence of God?
There is none. Sure, you can look out at the world and say that beause there is a tree there, god must have created it. This logic seems flawed to me. Can I look at my closet and say that because it exists, Jones Construction must have built it, and Alexio must have designed it? No.

2. How can someone look at all of this life around them and not believe in God?
Lets turn this one around if you don't mind. How can you look around and be sure that it was the great and powerful god that created everything? There is evidence of evolution all around you, and science is disproving the truth that the bible states every day.

3. What has happened in your life to convince you that God exists?
Not a damn thing. The fact that you assume god has convinced me of his existence makes me wonder if this poll is just a tiny bit biased.

4. How can it be proved to others the God exists?
You cannot prove the existence of god. On the same note you cannot fully disprove his existence, but you can get to a very high degree of certainty that there is no old man in the sky.

5. What proof do you have that He doesn't exist?
I will call a lifeline from my good and faithfull friends logic and mathematics for this one.

We can claim that god exists, and try to disprove this, but I find that to be somewhat flawed. How can you disprove something if it has never been proven? Lets say I belive in a giant one eyed, one horned flying purple people eater that lives on a moon of Jupiter. Now I can convince many people that he really does exist, and convince them to pray to him. This does not make him real, and without being able to go to Jupiter's moon and taking sonar readings of the core, nobody would be able to disprove the existence of this one eyed one horned flying purple people eater.

Just because this so called god has a book written with "divine inspiration" does not make him real. There is no need to disprove his existence, since he never existed in the first place.


I would like to encourage others with differing views to rebut what I have written. That is why this board exists, is it not? So get your empty heads out from behind your hymalls, and prove your faith.

I noticed that your the first person to reply to this thread :) which isn't surprising because I believe that you are the only person in here that really wants to discuss this subject. I think this is because you really have a deep desire to know God and find true fulfillment in your life. You will find it because the Bible says in Proverbs 8:17 that “Those who diligently seek me will find me”. And I believe that you are diligently seeking Him.

God is hidden only to the blind in spirit. I know that someone here will open your eyes to see the light because Jesus is God and God is God. There is no door He cannot open, no sin He cannot cover, no scar He cannot remove, no tree that cannot be uprooted, no captive that cannot be delivered and He will deliver you.

There is no need for you to shout Joe; He hears you and He will answer you. The seed has already been planted in your heart now it has to be watered and given more light.

The Kingdom awaits you.

Stop avoiding the subject Delroy ;-D

Let's get an actual dialog going with points and counterpoints.

Joe... I chose to believe that God is! That the all that the Bible says is true and that Jesus died because He believe me to be worth is blood.

This is my beleif.

I also so believe that God is bigger that any debate and any unbelief.

He is not deaf Joe, if you want to know if He is real ask Him. He Love you enough to reveal Himself to you. He did before, He do it again...Just for you, Joe...because He is God!

Originally posted by dacy2003
Joe... I chose to believe that God is! That the all that the Bible says is true and that Jesus died because He believe me to be worth is blood.

This is my beleif.

I also so believe that God is bigger that any debate and any unbelief.

He is not deaf Joe, if you want to know if He is real ask Him. He Love you enough to reveal Himself to you. He did before, He do it again...Just for you, Joe...because He is God!

Apparently Tenth Grade English class has yet to reveal itself to you. I pray that someday you might seek ye teacher.

Is that all you got Joe...my my :)

Welcome to my world Joe...For our wisdom is foolishness to God and our strength weakness before His might.

It is obvious to me that you are satisfy in your foolishness...so God's speed.:D

wow. What silliness.

It is apparent that Delroy believes in God via a choice based on what he felt. (by his own admission)

It is therefore pointless for him to have a debate on God's existence, so I am curious as to why he initiated one.

I speculate that he simply wants to futher his view, not debate at all.

I could be wrong, having no direct evidence. However, I stand by my specualtion as it is statistically sound, taking into account the framework of society and psychology of individuals.

I, Joe, am up for debate, though not a pointless one. Let us begin by defining this term 'God'. Then we can proceed with debating its existence...

:D

Hi skept,

I'm a girl!:cool:

God Bless!:D

The design factor.

One of the biggest questions that needs to be confronted but is always left out by Atheist is, what if there is a creature known as Satan?

1.What is known about Satan, (Devil)?
2.What would be some of the weapons he would use to stop man from believing in God? If there is God or gods.
3.Is he(Satan) using me as an instrument to plan doubt in the hearts of God’s creations and stopping them from knowing Him (God) personally.

How can I know if he(Satan) is using me like a sandpaper on a piece of wood at this time in the game of life. You can answer this question quite easily. What good has Atheism done to help the homeless, the drug addicts, and the alcoholics? And we can add more to this list, but I know that we don’t have to.
To my dear Atheist friend, can you give me some examples of countries that accepted the religion of Atheism as their gospel? But O yes it is a religion just not like Christianity which believes in One God who is out side of our time and space. After you have found these countries please tell me which one of these you would love to make your home and why.
Hi Joe Baboon

Originally posted by marcio smith
One of the biggest questions that needs to be confronted but is always left out by Atheist is, what if there is a creature known as Satan?

1.What is known about Satan, (Devil)?
What is known about the Easter Bunny?


3.Is he(Satan) using me as an instrument to plan doubt in the hearts of God’s creations and stopping them from knowing Him (God) personally.
This is pure FUD.

How can I know if he(Satan) is using me like a sandpaper on a piece of wood at this time in the game of life. You can answer this question quite easily.
Sandpaper is good, not bad. ;-) I spent half my day today sanding some wood to be painted. If it is a tool of Satan, so be it.

What good has Atheism done to help the homeless, the drug addicts, and the alcoholics? And we can add more to this list, but I know that we don’t have to.
Touché my good man. This is a semi-valid argument. The church DOES contribute to society, and serves some purposes. However, this in no way gives merit to your argument of the existence of this God dude. If we support any group that helps out in society, then suddenly we are giving money and time to groups like the Ku Klux Klan. Just because something APPEARS to be good, doesn't mean their motivations are pure and true.


To my dear Atheist friend, can you give me some examples of countries that accepted the religion of Atheism as their gospel? But O yes it is a religion just not like Christianity which believes in One God who is out side of our time and space. After you have found these countries please tell me which one of these you would love to make your home and why.
Atheist countries? That would be any country that does no have an official religion? Sure, Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, United States. I may be mistaken about these, but it seems right.

Now lets look at countries that base themselves around religion, Iran, Palestine, Israel. Now THOSE sound like good places to live. You are an engineer at a major electronics firm riding the bus to work, when someone different than you gets on the bus, and decides to sacrifice his life to destroy your's, as well as the rest of the people on the bus. His reason? Your God doesn't like his God.

I think the choice is clear.

Hi Joe Baboon
HI MARIO!!!!!

Dacy, I wanna say sorry. I should have said Delroy in my last post. Sorry 'bout dat.

Ah, the what-ifs begin. What we want to do is PROVE or DISPROVE there is a God. We may fail in both these, however we are not going to SPECULATE.

We are going to see if, in our current postion (whether we're hampered by the Devil or not) we can fathom the existence of a God or lack thereof. This is not about belief and faith. We're arguing right now.

All speculation does is lead to an infinite series of branching what-ifs.

Let's try - then we'll know the outcome (which I speculate will be failure since I believe we are being controled by Agents and rouge code in The Matrix).

Here's the structure of the argument:
No speculation.
No - "this book said so". Bible or physics manual. You may refer to authenticated reports to support an assertion or assumption. e.g. - you may reffer to periodicals citing experiments showing the speed of light. You may not refer to uncle Bob saying he went the speed of light without witnesses.

We will first attempt to prove that God exists. After that we'll try to disprove it.

I'll begin - I assert that we are here. Further, this place is the result of causality and therefor started out from somewhere. Also,some -thing- started it. I don't know what that is or if there was intelligence involved.

You guys' turn.

What is known about the Easter Bunny?

1.There is a lot known about the Easter Bunny. We can go and study history, to find out where it all began, only if we are willing to go and do our homework on it.

Mr. Joe have you done your homework on what you believe in (Atheism) or do you believe in it by faith?

Mr. Joe have you done your homework on what you believe in (Atheism) or do you believe in it by faith?
I learned all about my faith from others in my church. Brother Asimov, Pastor Einstein, Apostle Darwin, and we can't forget about Elder Lennon. ;-D