That's another thing! The article says that they were each flogged 228 times yet on this picture they are able to stand and await execution:

http://www.ncr-iran.org/images/stories/repression/execution-4-tn.jpg

I don't know about you all but after getting 228 licks (even if it was from a small tamarind switch) they would have to tote me to the gallows.


del. even though it is no luaghin matter that was funny dude. i would have been on the gorund from the first blow

the flogging happened before they were executed, so that could mean a few days or more.

not any more. a legislation i was TOTALLY against. i believe a crime like murder should be considered an emancipation crime. and you should be considered as an adult. these american kids too funky as it is, and now they sayin on of them can take my life and what becomes of it.......they get rehabilatative services. SUC TEET

oh yeah, wasnt that just very recently they banned it? what about the execution of mentally incapable/retarded? have they rectified that?

Actually that website seems to be a bit bias. Iran is evil of course but I don't believe that they would hang 2 of their own young men for only disturbing the peace. I think we should look for more information about that case online before we come to a conclusion.

One thing in particular I noticed about the article is that no names were mentioned in regards to any of the young men.

Here let me make it clear.
http://www.ukgaynews.org.uk/Archive/2005july/2101.htm
saw this on this link as well
“Last August, a 16 year old girl, Atefeh Rajabi, was hanged for ‘acts incompatible with chasity.

That's another thing! The article says that they were each flogged 228 times yet on this picture they are able to stand and await execution:

http://www.ncr-iran.org/images/stories/repression/execution-4-tn.jpg

I don't know about you all but after getting 228 licks (even if it was from a small tamarind switch) they would have to tote me to the gallows.

As I udnerstand when giving these licks (as you call them) They are not allowed to draw blood.

Your version is what the BBC & CNN mentioned Rory ,& even if you didn't post these just seeing who the thread starter was is enough! :bouncy:

So you approve of hanging teenages.

Yep. Now it's starting to make some sense. You think Vicky was trying to swing us with this one?

No not trying to swing
Just because a teenager is gay is no reasion to hang them.

“Last August, a 16 year old girl, Atefeh Rajabi, was hanged for ‘acts incompatible with chasity.


Now that's something to talk about Vicky! That's a shame and a disgrace, we should nuke the mullahs for that.

Why didn't you start the thread with that story about the 16 year old girl?
Why did you start the thread with these two guys?

I'm sorry but it's really hard for me to feel pity for these guys if they raped a 13 year old boy.

I approve of hanging teenagers. I wished the Bahamas did it. I used to live in Nassau Village with Gunhawks. Lived in Kemp Road and the Grove. Being 14 years old I've seen other 14 year olds shoot or stab somebody to death because they were bored that day. When I was 16 I moved to South Florida and of course I couldn't do anything else other than get involved with gangs. Been shot, stabbed. I lived half my life in the street and the other half in the hospital. Once, two 16 year olds shot up my aunt's apartment without giving regard to the fact that 3 children under the age of 5 lived there.

They...excuse me...we all did what we wanted to because we knew that we wouldn't be tried as adults. I have a cousin from Freeport, and Mikki Forbes is my real name so all of this is real (Freeport/Eight Mile Rock should have records of anyone named Forbes being arrested for murder), who got high one day, tied up an entire family and executed them. He and I are the same age. And it was said that he escaped to Nassau. We look almost exactly alike. So at 2am in the morning the CID surrounded our house and entered, dragging me out face down in the ground with 5 rifles in my back and one pistol to my head. My mother, sister and grandmother thought armaggeddon was upon us.

So no...I have no pity on people who maliciously destroy life. Even less pity for people who try to manipulate the system.

Now that's something to talk about Vicky! That's a shame and a disgrace, we should nuke the mullahs for that.

Why didn't you start the thread with that story about the 16 year old girl?
Why did you start the thread with these two guys?

I'm sorry but it's really hard for me to feel pity for these guys if they raped a 13 year old boy.

Do you really think it was rape???
http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2005/07/iran_executes_2.html

over 4000 lesbians and gay men have been executed since the Ayatollahs seized power in 1979.
would the boys have been hanged if they had raped a girl?????

Do you really think it was rape???
http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2005/07/iran_executes_2.html

over 4000 lesbians and gay men have been executed since the Ayatollahs seized power in 1979.
would the boys have been hanged if they had raped a girl?????


Yes they would have been hanged. This would surprise you Vicy but i know allot about Iran and Islam. I have muslim friends here and in Saudi and I speak a little Arabic. Iran is a very organized state. In fact it's one of the most organized nation in the muslim world. They have laws and as evil as those laws are they apply them. They built their own nuclear facilities without any assistance from the U.S. This is why the United States fear them. Believe it or not these are very intelligent people as prehistoric as their country looks.

Iran is a terrible nation of course but what I am asking is out of all the people that were murdered in Iran why you picked out these two guys who were accused of raping a 13 year old boy?

If I am not to believe that they raped a 13 year old boy then why should I believe that they were gay?

Maybe this was all staged to see who would protest in Iran? Get some people out of the closet :sarcastic

I approve of hanging teenagers. I wished the Bahamas did it. I used to live in Nassau Village with Gunhawks. Lived in Kemp Road and the Grove. Being 14 years old I've seen other 14 year olds shoot or stab somebody to death because they were bored that day. When I was 16 I moved to South Florida and of course I couldn't do anything else other than get involved with gangs. Been shot, stabbed. I lived half my life in the street and the other half in the hospital. Once, two 16 year olds shot up my aunt's apartment without giving regard to the fact that 3 children under the age of 5 lived there.

They...excuse me...we all did what we wanted to because we knew that we wouldn't be tried as adults. I have a cousin from Freeport, and Mikki Forbes is my real name so all of this is real (Freeport/Eight Mile Rock should have records of anyone named Forbes being arrested for murder), who got high one day, tied up an entire family and executed them. He and I are the same age. And it was said that he escaped to Nassau. We look almost exactly alike. So at 2am in the morning the CID surrounded our house and entered, dragging me out face down in the ground with 5 rifles in my back and one pistol to my head. My mother, sister and grandmother thought armaggeddon was upon us.

So no...I have no pity on people who maliciously destroy life. Even less pity for people who try to manipulate the system.

Hi Mikki, your account leaves me almost breathless -- you really been through some things. Man!!! -- makes me feel highly "INexperienced"! Sorry to hear about those bad experiences!

To me it seems that nowadays more and more people are being born with some mental problem which they could have for life. (Just the other day I found that a 19 year old grandson of mine has Bipolar Disorder (also called Manic Depression) -- the doctor at Sandilands says he has to be on drugs
for the rest of his life). He used to do some really crazy things since he was a kid and no one knew why until now!

You remember when a long time ago when the judges used to be a bit lenient on persons who commit crimes and used being on drugs as an excuse? This was in the early days when marijuana, etc, started being used around here.

Then some real criminals started the same excuse and the judges caught on and started sentencing them and disregarding their use of drugs as excuses / reasons.

I would think that if there is evidence that these young persons WILLFULLY committed the crime AND they are of normal mind, then let the law take its course. (personally, I am not in favour of capital punishment!).

I also believe we have to go way back to the ROOT cause as to why these people are committing these antisocial acts.

PS. We een seen anything YET ....... Just wait 'til Iran start to mess with Israel!!!

I approve of hanging teenagers. I wished the Bahamas did it.

you know Mikki, your experiences are sad - thank God you are a changed person...in fact you are living proof that a gang-banging teen who may have hooked up with the wrong crowd can change. however, i totally disagree with you that teens should be hanged (NB: placed on deathrow for crimes commited as a minor).
First of all, capital punishment its pointless - proven over and over again not to deter crime and obviously a faulty method of punishment. Flatly, it achieves nothing. Secondly, I dont think the state should have the right to dictate who lives and who dies. Concentration should be placed on rehabilitation, not execution. In particular when talking about execution of minors and mentally incapable: it still baffles me how a minor/mental patient can be culpable for murder, when in fact they are seen to not have the basic capacity to do so many other things: ie enter legally binding contracts/vote/even drink alcohol!

Thats sick, something needs to be done about Iran, their regime is and always was just as bad as Sadaam. Mind you this happens in Cuba also, and our government is cosy with that Regime. In Cuba for example they are executed for simply talking on a forum such as this one, and in the instance of Iran, they simply disturbed the peace .. yet they are first tortured, then executed in public. There are too many sick bastids running these countries in the middle east and the communist world.

Well, let their own deal with it, cause they just cry its all the US and UKs fault after they ask for their help, lame *** dummies.


Rory, child this kinda ting happens in our own fair land from that time! Instead of cutting ya head off an ting, they cut off ya ability to work and provide for ya children them! They make all a we shut-up we mouth and say nothing! Or thas ya a**! Victimization is an age-old tool of Bahamian politicians and other leaders and until we band together and say "it could be my enemy..I will not stand-by and allow you to victimize another Bahamian...ever! We are no better! But your posting gives the feeling that "you is tired of tha kinda ting"! Perhaps there is hope for us yet. I join with you in saying: "lame a** dummies. Only, I now add, lame a** Bahamian dummies!

you know Mikki, your experiences are sad - thank God you are a changed person...in fact you are living proof that a gang-banging teen who may have hooked up with the wrong crowd can change. however, i totally disagree with you that teens should be hanged (NB: placed on deathrow for crimes commited as a minor).
First of all, capital punishment its pointless - proven over and over again not to deter crime and obviously a faulty method of punishment. Flatly, it achieves nothing. Secondly, I dont think the state should have the right to dictate who lives and who dies. Concentration should be placed on rehabilitation, not execution. In particular when talking about execution of minors and mentally incapable: it still baffles me how a minor/mental patient can be culpable for murder, when in fact they are seen to not have the basic capacity to do so many other things: ie enter legally binding contracts/vote/even drink alcohol!




So imprisonment should be banned also. It doesn't deter crime. It is pointless. Serves no purpose.

All forms of punishment are faulty.

Capital punishment is not designed to deter crime. It is designed as a form of retribution. Retribution is not revenge.