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bahmaboy
07-25-05, - 10:35 PM
So you approve of hanging teenages.


not for disturning the peace. but if u run up in a gas station and kill the clerk in cold blood. i say SAVE ELECTRITY AND USE A ROPE.

Abiskan Moon-Angel
07-25-05, - 10:38 PM
Their country works so well because the people have no soul. Can't dance. No flavor in their food. They have no passions. All of their wants, desires, fears seem not to exist. Nothing gives them an adrenaline rush to be alive

Def.cant agree with you there...the food might not be great, but you'd need to explain this 'no soul' (although we're getting off topic)...also all the swedes i know (and quite a few) are passionate about certain things(equality, human rights, environment)...maybe not more so than some of my friends from other nationalities - but not less...and again, i think those passions are reflected in their lifestyle..and if you ever lived their you would know what i mean. sure they are not religious, and yes, sometimes recycling becomes such a chore that THAT seems like worship in itself, but at the same time, what do they have to show? an extremely clean, relatively crime free society, where everyone enjoys a really high standard of living and is educated and healthy. sounds like heaven to me - in fact, i didnt want to leave!

bahmaboy
07-25-05, - 10:40 PM
I approve of hanging teenagers. I wished the Bahamas did it. I used to live in Nassau Village with Gunhawks. Lived in Kemp Road and the Grove. Being 14 years old I've seen other 14 year olds shoot or stab somebody to death because they were bored that day. When I was 16 I moved to South Florida and of course I couldn't do anything else other than get involved with gangs. Been shot, stabbed. I lived half my life in the street and the other half in the hospital. Once, two 16 year olds shot up my aunt's apartment without giving regard to the fact that 3 children under the age of 5 lived there.

They...excuse me...we all did what we wanted to because we knew that we wouldn't be tried as adults. I have a cousin from Freeport, and Mikki Forbes is my real name so all of this is real (Freeport/Eight Mile Rock should have records of anyone named Forbes being arrested for murder), who got high one day, tied up an entire family and executed them. He and I are the same age. And it was said that he escaped to Nassau. We look almost exactly alike. So at 2am in the morning the CID surrounded our house and entered, dragging me out face down in the ground with 5 rifles in my back and one pistol to my head. My mother, sister and grandmother thought armaggeddon was upon us.

So no...I have no pity on people who maliciously destroy life. Even less pity for people who try to manipulate the system.



wow MIKKI. all i could say is wow. how come u didnt tell us this before. i am glad u turned ur life around men. do u do any communty outreach to young men who are where you was. men, i will probably have lots more to ask you later

bahmaboy
07-25-05, - 10:42 PM
Yes they would have been hanged. This would surprise you Vicy but i know allot about Iran and Islam. I have muslim friends here and in Saudi and I speak a little Arabic. Iran is a very organized state. In fact it's one of the most organized nation in the muslim world. They have laws and as evil as those laws are they apply them. They built their own nuclear facilities without any assistance from the U.S. This is why the United States fear them. Believe it or not these are very intelligent people as prehistoric as their country looks.

Iran is a terrible nation of course but what I am asking is out of all the people that were murdered in Iran why you picked out these two guys who were accused of raping a 13 year old boy?

If I am not to believe that they raped a 13 year old boy then why should I believe that they were gay?

Maybe this was all staged to see who would protest in Iran? Get some people out of the closet :sarcastic


i agree with you delroy.

Ting-um
07-25-05, - 10:45 PM
Well, I didn't mean they weren't passionate about anything. Yes, the whole recycling thing drove me crazy. Lets carpool. No, lets not. The whole minimalism drove me crazy also.

I meant, after being around dozens of them at a time, that they smiled but their smiles didn't light up. They laughed but their laughs weren't hearty. I met a few deejays and they approached music like some sort of science instead of something to enjoy. The food was bland and spiceless. I felt as if somebody had legalized cloning and just cloned the same personalities over and over again. And I grew sick of everything being about Sweden. In Sweden we have super beans that don't give you gas.

Yes please, lets get back on-topic, this is bringing up bad memories. We stayed in Landskrona by the way -- you??

Abiskan Moon-Angel
07-25-05, - 10:50 PM
oh my sweet jesus - landskrona is like a retirement town! i was there on the way to Ven island...i used to live in Lund though - so obviously that had loads to do with my experiences also...pretty international/student town!

Ting-um
07-25-05, - 10:52 PM
wow MIKKI. all i could say is wow. how come u didnt tell us this before. i am glad u turned ur life around men. do u do any communty outreach to young men who are where you was. men, i will probably have lots more to ask you later


Yes. Our company has a store on 12th Street in Little Rock, Arkansas. If you've ever seen Banging in Little Rock, then you're familiar with the place I'm talking about. Every year we join up with other businesses and do a charity concert, in 2003 we had a Cece Winans concert. In 2004 we brought the AND 1 basketball team. We give out turkeys and things like that during thanksgiving and gift certificates and toys during christmas.

But to be honest, I hate doing it. I think a lot of these kids don't deserve it. For example, there was one kid who was 16 years old, just got a scholarship to attend Univ. of Arkansas. And what was he doing, out at 3am smoking weed and shooting at the police helicopters. Things like that sickened me. So I'm trying to move back to the Bahamas where I think its more needed and more appreciated.

bahmaboy
07-25-05, - 10:55 PM
you know Mikki, your experiences are sad - thank God you are a changed person...in fact you are living proof that a gang-banging teen who may have hooked up with the wrong crowd can change. however, i totally disagree with you that teens should be hanged (NB: placed on deathrow for crimes commited as a minor).
First of all, capital punishment its pointless - proven over and over again not to deter crime and obviously a faulty method of punishment. Flatly, it achieves nothing. Secondly, I dont think the state should have the right to dictate who lives and who dies. Concentration should be placed on rehabilitation, not execution. In particular when talking about execution of minors and mentally incapable: it still baffles me how a minor/mental patient can be culpable for murder, when in fact they are seen to not have the basic capacity to do so many other things: ie enter legally binding contracts/vote/even drink alcohol!


i dis agree moon. i think the reason why capital punishment isnt working that well is becuase the process is too slow. people today think nothing of taking a life becuase why. you will sit up on death row for another thousand years. trust me (figurativly) if a person pop a cap today and their neck get pop the next day. crimes, especially murder would be a lot lower.

Ting-um
07-25-05, - 10:56 PM
oh my sweet jesus - landskrona is like a retirement town! i was there on the way to Ven island...i used to live in Lund though - so obviously that had loads to do with my experiences also...pretty international/student town!


I can't remember what the University's called but my ex went to school there, a degree in philosophy and theology. Even though she's atheist.

Anyway, I didn't know any different. Landskrona was all I wanted to know of Sweden, besides the women. And I refused to learn a word of Swedish, even though my daughters speak it -- which drives me crazy.

Abiskan Moon-Angel
07-25-05, - 11:00 PM
NO NO NO! no they wont!...BB..if that the case, who would you go about explaining the lower murder rate in countries without the death penalty? and not sweden for example (for all the reasons previously stated)...in fact if you take all the countries of the EU (25) and compared the murder rate to that of the US - its much lower...why would you say that is ...( and if we are comparing the EU and the US - we are talking similar populations)... :cop:

Abiskan Moon-Angel
07-25-05, - 11:04 PM
Landskrona was all I wanted to know of Sweden, besides the women. And I refused to learn a word of Swedish

heheh, i'll admit the chics are hot, but the guys - damn! anyway my swedish is also quite bad, but that was the crappy thing living there - there wasnt really the need to learn, cause they all spoke perfect english!

ok enough already with sweden..its good to talk to another bahamian about it - i do miss it, and for some reason felt at home there, but anyway, people will start blasting us if we continue on this! but where are the kids?

bahmaboy
07-25-05, - 11:06 PM
Yes. Our company has a store on 12th Street in Little Rock, Arkansas. If you've ever seen Banging in Little Rock, then you're familiar with the place I'm talking about. Every year we join up with other businesses and do a charity concert, in 2003 we had a Cece Winans concert. In 2004 we brought the AND 1 basketball team. We give out turkeys and things like that during thanksgiving and gift certificates and toys during christmas.

But to be honest, I hate doing it. I think a lot of these kids don't deserve it. For example, there was one kid who was 16 years old, just got a scholarship to attend Univ. of Arkansas. And what was he doing, out at 3am smoking weed and shooting at the police helicopters. Things like that sickened me. So I'm trying to move back to the Bahamas where I think its more needed and more appreciated.


good for u men. even though i dont know u i am really happy you had a goood ending and trying to make a diff. i have been to little rock like 3 times but not that familiar with it that well. but you can definatly tell it is a more "urban" area. u c mikki america is too light on these teen agers thats why they continue to do stupidness. that boy you was talkin bout will get community service, counseling, probabation, and maybe a light time in juvi. also i think america light on all these criminals with these pretty jails they be housin them in.

i do think you will have better luck working with bahamian youth.

Ting-um
07-25-05, - 11:11 PM
Oh..another thing..

I was an athlete in college. So I met a lot of other athletes. There were guys 21 and 22 years old who graduated college not being able to spell the word *THE*. They had no shame, no pride. A lot of them got signed to NFL teams or the Canadian league so they were getting paid and didn't care. One guy though, he bought a motorcycle and hurt himself really badly. The end of his career. He had a degree in finance so he got a job as a bank teller. That didn't last long. It was just depressing being around so much opportunity and so few people taken advantage of it.

Alien
07-25-05, - 11:13 PM
Umm alrighty.

The death penalty isn't the *KILLING* of the person. It is the process of convicting, sentencing, and executing that sentence. If the death penalty is flawed then the flaw lies in the convicting stage. The same flaw exists in all convictions -- death penalty or no death penalty. So improving at this stage means that fewer persons will be executed.


since you want to get technical about it...
you dont improve the death penalty, you improve the process to which you reach the death penalty!

unlike you...i placed my joke in its proper place, you dont even know the difference between the process, the sentence or the act itself!
:shhh: :)

Ting-um
07-25-05, - 11:17 PM
You're right I'll stop. This bickering and condescension is not appealing to me. I have better things to do.