As for the arab ... the suspect had a long curly beard, his gun is a beige rusted AK47, trigger is bare metal, missing shoulder strap, sword had tints of rust and possible blood stains, black customized handle, goes by the name of osama or omar ... :D


And that's my point, only in a society where there is racism would race even be an issue. And obviously, humans can survive without it.

Well as long as their are white people in America...there will be the KKK...
As long as there are Black people in America...there will be the Black Panthers..
As long as there are Arabs..there will be a muslim league!!

No matter how good free trade and free movement of people sound...you cant take away what people want to do with their life!!!!
:fly:

I truly believe that it is the incidents of discrimination that we have to still indure that keeps us in our "black power" mode. We cannot forget what our ancestors had to go through in order for us to have "freedom". Centuries of oppression cannot be forgotten or erased. When I take my children to a nice restaurant on "the other side of town" and they are stared at and given mean looks, I have to explain once again why. So I find myself becoming defensive and I am reminded of the struggle. It is ever present. Racism is still alive, discrimination is still alive and there will never be a time when "all Gods children, black men and white men, jews and gentiles, protestants and catholics" will come together as one because there will always be that one bad apple that will spoil the whole bunch.

Peace

Racism is still alive, discrimination is still alive and there will never be a time when "all Gods children, black men and white men, jews and gentiles, protestants and catholics" will come together as one because there will always be that one bad apple that will spoil the whole bunch.


Its that type of negative thinking that will keep racism alive.

Have you ever heard of the "Greying of America"?? In a few decades, white americans will be a minority. The largest minority will be bi-racial americans and hispanic americans. Wouldn't that be close to nullifying the concepts of "black" and "white"?? And thus the idea of racism??

Its that type of negative thinking that will keep racism alive.

Have you ever heard of the "Greying of America"?? In a few decades, white americans will be a minority. The largest minority will be bi-racial americans and hispanic americans. Wouldn't that be close to nullifying the concepts of "black" and "white"?? And thus the idea of racism??
Numbers does not cancel out racism,take the Bahamas for example.

There's racism in the Bahamas?? Implemented by whom?? Or are you referring to individual racism rather than institutional racism. Can you share an example of institutional racism in the Bahamas because individual racism is not an issue to be concerned with.

Thanks.

There's racism in the Bahamas?? Implemented by whom?? Or are you referring to individual racism rather than institutional racism. Can you share an example of institutional racism in the Bahamas because individual racism is not an issue to be concerned with.

Thanks.

:biggie: You're kidding me right?

No I'm not kidding you. I'm not familiar with any form of racial oppression in the Bahamas. I'd like to be enlightened. Unless you're talking about the casual hatred between social peers. If I say that I hate old people, that doesn't make me an agist. Racism is like rape, unless you can influence through political power or physical force -- then it doesn't exist. And you can't be racist against one person. If you look up the word "race" it is considered a *SHARED* quality. You have to be racist against a group of people. There's extreme classism in the Bahamas, but I would hope Bahamians were smart enough to know the difference between classism disguised as racism.

I guess you're waiting to prove me wrong.

Its that type of negative thinking that will keep racism alive.

Have you ever heard of the "Greying of America"?? In a few decades, white americans will be a minority. The largest minority will be bi-racial americans and hispanic americans. Wouldn't that be close to nullifying the concepts of "black" and "white"?? And thus the idea of racism??


It's not negative thinking, it's fact. I see it everyday. I'm not a racist and neither are my children but we still have to deal with the ignorance of others. We cannot walk around and pretend it is not there. We have to prepare our children for the people who are not going to like them because of the color of their skin. That is why it goes from generation to generation because as I teach my children to love everyone no matter the color of their skin. There is another mother/father teaching their child that because of the color of THEIR skin, they are superior to others. It's a never ending battle and if you think it will ever go away, you are fooling yourself.

No I'm not kidding you. I'm not familiar with any form of racial oppression in the Bahamas. I'd like to be enlightened. Unless you're talking about the casual hatred between social peers. If I say that I hate old people, that doesn't make me an agist. Racism is like rape, unless you can influence through political power or physical force -- then it doesn't exist. And you can't be racist against one person. If you look up the word "race" it is considered a *SHARED* quality. You have to be racist against a group of people. There's extreme classism in the Bahamas, but I would hope Bahamians were smart enough to know the difference between classism disguised as racism.

I guess you're waiting to prove me wrong.

you go gurl, educated the brothers them...
definitions are so important...

Canewry:

I'm not a girl. That's *VICKY* not *MIKKI*..

Sugar:

You don't think saying that there will never be a time when you have to think about racism isn't negative thinking?? I certainly do. And it certainly is not fact that you and your children will *ALWAYS* be facing racism. And yes, I do think it will go away. Its sheer common sense. Race is a biological quality that is projected socially. And as stated earlier, *EVERYONE* comes from africa. Meaning that at some point *EVERYONE* was black. And at the rate the minority groups are growing in america, it won't be long before *EVERYONE* is black again. So where will the racism be?? Nowhere.

That is the only fact I am aware of.


Actually, I had an interesting conversation with an ex-girlfriend of mine. She's dating this new guy, but she has concerns that he has reverse jungle-fever. He's only ever dated white women, he's black -- and she suspects that he is only dating her out of curiousity. So they constantly argue. Well, she decided to call him a sellout. And then decided to compare him to me. You see, I don't date black american women either, actually, I don't date american women at all. But the argument was that she felt justified in calling him a sellout and she wanted me to agree with her. She went into this diatribe about how blacks would be lynched if they even looked in the direction of a white person and so on and so forth.

Well, I said as a Bahamian, I can sympathize but I can't empathize. She insisted that as a black man I should feel the same way other blacks felt. But my issue was that being from the Bahamas, my culture didn't allow for such feelings. Well this didn't matter, since I now lived in america I had to conform.

This is the hypocrisy.

She calls her friend a sellout because he moved out of the ghetto to live with whites and now he doesn't want to have anything to do with blacks. But she's asking me to do the same thing. I was born Bahamian, as he was born african american. I was raised Bahamian, but just because I live in America doesn't mean that I should cast aside my cultural identity just to fit in with african americans.

But...I will be like an african american today and call Bahamians who go to the US and adopt their psychotic lust for skin colour...*SELLOUT*...

Yes, you are a sellout. Come back to your roots. Abandon the african american culture. Be who your mother raised you to be, Bahamian and proud.

"When I take my children to a nice restaurant on "the other side of town" and they are stared at and given mean looks, I have to explain once again why."

I am sad that you continue to encounter such ill-mannered people, in this day and age, in the beautiful Bahamas. Your comment above reminded me of my college days in the American South, where I thanked God every day to have come from the Bahamas, and not the eroded superficially over-testosteroned "social" (and I use that term loosely) divisions of the Carolinas.

^^ I don't think she's talking about an experience in the Bahamas.

On another thread CG asked me what stood out the most when I visited the Bahamas and my first thought was the people. And this is the reason why. There is no prejudice in the Bahamas like in the US. I am used to dealing with the black/white issue in my every day life so this is what I expected to deal with there too. Needless to say I was quite surprised and very comfortable and relaxed during my visit. Oh, and BTW, Im quite pale, even when Im tan ;)

On another thread CG asked me what stood out the most when I visited the Bahamas and my first thought was the people. And this is the reason why. There is no prejudice in the Bahamas like in the US. I am used to dealing with the black/white issue in my every day life so this is what I expected to deal with there too. Needless to say I was quite surprised and very comfortable and relaxed during my visit. Oh, and BTW, Im quite pale, even when Im tan ;)

I think you are right! Occasional one might meet a person, Black or White, who harbours some prejudice but by and large we are a lot better than most. We have a lot to be thankful for. :) A lot. :)