^^ I don't think she's talking about an experience in the Bahamas.


No it wasn't an experience in the Bahamas. I am from the states and racism is alive and kicking and I experience some form of it on a weekly basis. I still say that it is fact and not negative thinking that racism will never die because everytime a new generation is born, their ignorant parents fill their heads with the black, white issue. I moved into a predominatly white neighborhood 7 years ago. Some of the children my children played with back then when they were small, now that they are in high school do not even talk to them. They hang out with their white friends and my children have friends of all different races. One of the boys that has been in my house several times when he was small is now a known racist who hangs with a white gang. I had eggs thrown at my car and "white power" spray painted on my garage door not too long ago. Back in 1998 when the other black family moved into my neighborhood, someone burned a cross in their yard. That was only 7 years ago my friend. I'm glad that you don't have this issue to deal with in the Bahamas but believe me, here in the states, it's common place.

Listen sweetie..

I live in Arkansas. I *KNOW* racism. About 20 minutes from me is Paragould where they have a sign on the entrance of the town that says "No Niggers Allowed". I lived in Bloomington, Indiana back in 1999 when a neo-nazi decided to go on a killing spree. I think he drove up to Chicago and killed some people. And Bloomington is right outside of Martinsville which is the US' most notoriously racist town.

Fact of the matter is, your experience in the US is not pertinent to the Bahamian experience and only serves to contaminate it.

The topic of this thread is "our we being influenced by "America" when it comes to race? America is where I'm from. America is where racism is from. How could my experiences with racism contaminate an entire country. They are my personal experiences and this is my personal opinion sweetie.

... because the "we" in the subject line refers to the Bahamas, and the discussion is about perceived racism in the BAHAMAS, which trust me is a completely different sociological ball of wax. That's all. Apples and oranges to you, dillies and guineps to us.

Islandgyal:

Thank you. You are truly a glimmer of hope.

Sugar:

Racism is *FROM* america. I mean you can claim it if you want to. But if you want to be accurate racism is not *FROM* america. And it is not your experiences with racism, but how you view race and race issues contaminates this country. And when I speak of you I'm using it in a general sense to refer to the African American experience, which is far far different from the Bahamian experience. Unfortunately, because we share similar complexions and americans believe that african americans define what is and what isn't black -- we as black bahamians are somehow drafted into a conflict that skews our perception of our own experience.

Racism is *FROM* america. I mean you can claim it if you want to. But if you want to be accurate racism is not *FROM* america. And it is not your experiences with racism, but how you view race and race issues contaminates this country. And when I speak of you I'm using it in a general sense to refer to the African American experience, which is far far different from the Bahamian experience. Unfortunately, because we share similar complexions and americans believe that african americans define what is and what isn't black -- we as black bahamians are somehow drafted into a conflict that skews our perception of our own experience.


We should stop this thread right here. MF summed it up nicely and between the prior posts and this, we've answered the title question with a simple 'yes'.

Combined we're a friggin' thinktank! I think the gov't should pay us to post our good ideas! :bigmouth:

:bahamas:

Combined we're a friggin' thinktank! I think the gov't should pay us to post our good ideas! :bigmouth:

this is true :tup: :bahamas:

Does PayPal take $B yet :hammer:???

Somewhat related:

This is a question that I've been dying to ask.

Do white Bahamians take offense to being called "conchie joes"?

Somewhat related:

This is a question that I've been dying to ask.

Do white Bahamians take offense to being called "conchie joes"?



coudlnt care less, but its easier if yah call me by my name :cheers:

What about people we call mango skin?? Or any other names to describe complexion.

Psst..

..by the way..

This is usually the point where african americans accuse foreign blacks of thinking that we're better than them. Step lightly.

My husband is foreign, and I've been sharing some of our Bahamian terms with him. One is "conchie joe" , now I don't want him to use it if it is offensive. So that's why I'm asking. :dancer2:

My husband is foreign, and I've been sharing some of our Bahamian terms with him. One is "conchie joe" , now I don't want him to use it if it is offensive. So that's why I'm asking. :dancer2:


No, its not offensive, nothing like the "N" word so dont worry, its all good ..

at least to me ... though I dont really know what it means :)

Somewhat related:

This is a question that I've been dying to ask.

Do white Bahamians take offense to being called "conchie joes"?

A "Conchie joe" is not just a White person, he is a White person with long, deep, ties of blood to the Bahamas.

So, in short Mr "X" who lives here as a permanent resident is not a Conchie Joe. Mr "Y" who was born here, first generation is not - yet. Mr."Z" who was born here - who's father's father was also born here is!

It is not a bad word at all - now a days.

Thank you for the explanation. I hadn't realized that it required a person to be here for generations to be a conchie joe. My children are mixed and they look more white than black. Would they be considered as "conchie joe"? I'm Bahamian (umpteen generations) and black and my husband is a white American.