lol vicky! hey send me a ticket and i'll come from london just for the meetings! :escape:

Lol! Boy Life Aye!I Tell Ya! :board2:

moon i tired to respond to ur post but for some reson couldnt. jus know u was preachin it sister.

on the issue of the church accepting or adjusting to homosexuals I kind of agree with teniel, they have a right to say no homosexuals but they shouldnt be totally arogant with it either. i have a question wasnt it jesus that had dinner with a group of unethical people called the gentials, i believe? hmmmmm i smell a contridiction

wow....

http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=5003

[COLOR=Blue]I humbly respect your opinion and view, but if someone does not agree with that opinion or view it does not make them less intelligent or less exposed, neither are they neccesarily narrowminded. Firstly there are some of us who believe that there are certain things that we need to be narrow minded about as it relates to moral issues. While I have no personal issues with homosexuals, and I do know a few, I believe that Miss teen bahamas is a private pageant and they are free to make whatever rules they want to. If you don't wanna abide by those rules don't enter. This is not something that you have a right to. This is a pageant with rules and regulations and if they don't want this kind of representation to be a portrayal of Miss teen bahamas they should have the right to say so and see to it that it doesn't happen. Just a word of information, at the University that I attended, I became student gov't president at some point, and my assistant was gay. We got along quite well, and as a matter of fact, He was an American but he dated a bahamian, that I was very Instrumental in getting to that Institution, needless to say at that time I didn't know he was gay. When He finally came out of the closet, I was disappointed, but I didn't condemn him he continued to be my friend. What I feared most happened, He contracted HIV and now has full blown Aids. Prior to him finding out that I knew he contracted the virus he was in constant contact with me. I was still his friend it didn't matter to me that he contracted the virus, it only mattered insofar as he was ok. Out of embarrassment, he no longer comes to The Bahamas, and no longer stays in contact with me. [B]To discourage people from that lifestyle is to care for them, not that heterosexual couples or people don't contract the virus, but the life span of people that live that lifestyle compared to heterosexuals is about half the life expectancy of straight people. I'm not saying that people are'nt born with a chemical imbalance that can cause them to have gay tendencies, according to scientist there are some people born this way, but people can change. there are many that wanted to and have changed.
We must be careful not to accept nonsense into our society and call it having an openmind. If we don't set parameters and borders we will live in a loose anything goes society, then again that's what some people may want.
Some things individuals just need to keep to themselves, unless they're asking for help. I believe it's unnatural, our body makeup does not support us going with our own kind, so why do we even wanna go there. Sometimes I'm convinced that man is a fool. We are the only set of God's creatures that create crises today by the choices we make that we gotta go find a way to to deal with and solve tomorrow. I Don't see a male dog trying to hump a male dog, I don't see a female zebra trying to hump a female zebra, what's wrong with us. Creation is groaning for the true sons and daughters of God to reveal themselves, and they will.
By the way before I close, I think it is rediculous to use and compare the plight and suffering of slaves and black people to the cause of gays, It is the epitome of nonsense and Insensitivity.
There is a saying and I quote, "Whom the gods seek to destroy they first make mad." :)

Simple question, does their rules (when she joined) say anything about no homosexuals or lesbians? Just wondering ..

Hope you march for all the overweight,short,ugly and just downright unpopular girls at the same time.As for the committee," how dear they try & set standards for their pagent,I say off with their heads!" :sarcastic


WHAT...them committee members now takin crowns from overweight, short, ugly and downright unpopular girls them too? Child, just let me get my tennis shoes and placard...leave them fat ugly and downright unpopular girls alone too! And how dare they set standards that are contrary to our Constitution...being a Government, thus Constitutionally sanctioned body? Since our Constitution done say any laws (including private bylaws) contrary to it must be null and void! And yea, "off with they heads" cos they een using them...they een ger miss them nohow! :D

they have a right to say no homosexuals but they shouldnt be totally arogant with it either.

BB: this is a good example of what i mean. its the approach/demeanor/behaviour. fine, they might not accept it, but dont condemn people! its isolates them.

I humbly respect your opinion and view, but if someone does not agree with that opinion or view it does not make them less intelligent or less exposed, neither are they neccesarily narrowminded
i am 100% in accordance with this...thats how you get a healthy debate!...and so sorry about your friend. at the same time, i dont know true your statement is about gay people having a shorter life expectancy than straight people...in Africa homosexuality is also taboo...those kids dying arent gay....

We must be careful not to accept nonsense into our society and call it having an openmind.
this too is very true. but i think its also important not to summarily dismiss public debate because we are not willing to change with the times. because we shy away from progressiveness. dont get me wrong...im not talking about gay priests, etc. but i must say, that drama about the gay cruise was appalling! how on earth, and why would we, should we dictate to the very tourists we need, what their sexual preference must be if they choose to visit our shores? ludicrous! the argument that we dont want demons is not only fundamentally flawed, but its not an argument at all...same goes every other arguments that was used. did that ever air on HBO by the way?

If we don't set parameters and borders we will live in a loose anything goes society, then again that's what some people may want
but what is 'living loose'. whose yardstick is this measured by? we are already a loose society (arguably). i mean, i swear in order to be a politician you need at least one sweetheart! if that sweetheart is the same sex as you, how is that any worse than a sweetheart who isnt?

I Don't see a male dog trying to hump a male dog, I don't see a female zebra trying to hump a female zebra
...aha! but there were the german penguins! lol the GAY german penguins! google it! appreciate the points though. sound.

:dancer:

Maybe we should tend to more important issues first. All this concern about gays and lesbians. Who cares. Get a job and help stimulate the economy. Help create jobs. Create infrastructure. People tired of their light going off every two minutes. Nobody cares about who's licking who.

Maybe we should tend to more important issues first. All this concern about gays and lesbians. Who cares. Get a job and help stimulate the economy. Help create jobs. Create infrastructure. People tired of their light going off every two minutes. Nobody cares about who's licking who.
:what: You think so aye? Muse need to come on here more often.This is some people on BI's reason for livin,without this issue they wouldn't even have a life or so it seems.

:what: You think so aye? Muse need to come on here more often.This is some people on BI's reason for livin,without this issue they wouldn't even have a life or so it seems.



HA HA HA. that was totally hilareous.

mikki you do have a point

to the person who said they never seen two same sex animals get it on......I have at least try to.

I Don't see a male dog trying to hump a male dog, I don't see a female zebra trying to hump a female zebra, what's wrong with us. Creation is groaning for the true sons and daughters of God to reveal themselves, and they will.


I really don't see why people always bring God into an issue of sexuality. I really don't see the relevance at all. But on the point of the gay animals, read this.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/02/07/MNG3N4RAV41.DTL

While I have no personal issues with homosexuals, and I do know a few, I believe that Miss teen bahamas is a private pageant and they are free to make whatever rules they want to. If you don't wanna abide by those rules don't enter. This is not something that you have a right to. This is a pageant with rules and regulations and if they don't want this kind of representation to be a portrayal of Miss teen bahamas they should have the right to say so and see to it that it doesn't happen.

OK...so what would you say if your sister or daughter wanted to enter the pageant and she was told point blank, "You are too dark. You can't enter because you are not how we want Miss Teen Bahamas to be portrayed." Discrimination is discrimination.


Just a word of information, at the University that I attended, I became student gov't president at some point, and my assistant was gay. We got along quite well, and as a matter of fact, He was an American but he dated a bahamian, that I was very Instrumental in getting to that Institution, needless to say at that time I didn't know he was gay. When He finally came out of the closet, I was disappointed, but I didn't condemn him he continued to be my friend. What I feared most happened, He contracted HIV and now has full blown Aids. Prior to him finding out that I knew he contracted the virus he was in constant contact with me. I was still his friend it didn't matter to me that he contracted the virus, it only mattered insofar as he was ok. Out of embarrassment, he no longer comes to The Bahamas, and no longer stays in contact with me. [B]To discourage people from that lifestyle is to care for them, not that heterosexual couples or people don't contract the virus, but the life span of people that live that lifestyle compared to heterosexuals is about half the life expectancy of straight people. I'm not saying that people are'nt born with a chemical imbalance that can cause them to have gay tendencies, according to scientist there are some people born this way, but people can change. there are many that wanted to and have changed.

While I appreciate your story, and really I do, your response just sounds silly to me. You say that you don't want the lifestyle for your friend because you fear him contracting HIV, but if you understand how it feels to be a homosexual person trying to live a hetero life, knowing everyday that you are not truly happy but just going through the motions you would understand that risking contracting HIV is worth it. If you cared for your friend, you would want him to be happy, even if that means being gay.


We must be careful not to accept nonsense into our society and call it having an openmind. If we don't set parameters and borders we will live in a loose anything goes society, then again that's what some people may want.
Some things individuals just need to keep to themselves, unless they're asking for help. I believe it's unnatural, our body makeup does not support us going with our own kind, so why do we even wanna go there. Sometimes I'm convinced that man is a fool. We are the only set of God's creatures that create crises today by the choices we make that we gotta go find a way to to deal with and solve tomorrow.

Since I am atheist and don't belive in God, I won't even try to touch on this because it makes no sense at all to me.


By the way before I close, I think it is rediculous to use and compare the plight and suffering of slaves and black people to the cause of gays, It is the epitome of nonsense and Insensitivity.


Coming from the perspective of a gay black male, I don't see such a huge difference between the two. The only reason you can take this perspective is because you probably are not gay. In both situations the person is being denied something that they desire or feel they have a right to based on something they have no control over at all. I am sure the Irish and the Jews in the US felt the same way that you do when they saw the blacks being discriminated against. I am sure they felt that the way they were treated was so different and unique.

Maybe we should tend to more important issues first. All this concern about gays and lesbians. Who cares. Get a job and help stimulate the economy. Help create jobs. Create infrastructure. People tired of their light going off every two minutes. Nobody cares about who's licking who.


If you are telling the GLBT people to get a job and stimulate the economy I would have you know that the majority of us do just that. You may not be aware of it, but a large percentage of the GLBT community are employed and successful. One of them might just be your neighbour.

This is an example of what we as a nation should be striving for.

http://www.rldesigns.ca/toolman/manhunt.html

This same guy won the Mr. Canada competition and is now representing their country at an international competition in Korea. In Canada, they were able to look beyond his sexual identity and look at the person. If only we could be more like Canada...

Coming from the perspective of a gay black male, I don't see such a huge difference between the two.


fink you're a gay black male?