Bahamian Student Graduating in December seeks job.

[YorickBrown]

I would doubt that persons like Moon Angel would "agree" with your ban on overseas education. Without it, people like her would still be stuck in this country, unexposed and virtually uneducated in certain fields.

And as for your four questions, I've already discussed in a STRAIGHTFORWARD way, without cryptic psychobabble, why we need to continue learning from more advanced nations.

Do you really think that this country will survive without its citizens learning from those who have knowledge beyond our borders? One of the biggest problems that we have now is a glaring lack of global exposure in our private and public sectors. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that when more effective ways of doing things are made known, everyone benefits. Exposure to the world grants our people access to these globally efficient and effective ways of doing things.

You seem to desire locking this country down (like Castro does with Cuba) and controlling who learns what and from where they learn it. Mandating where our people get their education from is pure communism. Choice is key in a free society.

The biggest flaw in your "BAN" is that to begin implementing such a system we would have to bring in those who have this plethora of knowledge FROM ABROAD. Do you actually suggest that we implement a system where a Bahamian, who aims to become a doctor, is mandated to attend the "University of The Bahamas" - a place where they do not have access to the latest guidelines, procedures and medicines already designed and approved by INTERNATIONALLY regulated bodies? To add to that, if they do use these international standards, why wouldn't it just be easier to go ABROAD to learn the same thing.

A ban on overseas education? Man, you can't be serious.

[a1000]

To Flipmode Squad, The Block Heads, My Hippie comrades, The Seventh Generation and in honor of the Vanguard who are pushing the envelope of possibility Namaste; a Hindi word meaning I honor the place in you where the universe resides the place of peace, love, truth and justice and when you are there and I am there we are one.


Let us get straight to the point, the only thing that will save the Bahamas, remove it from its obscure position on the world stage, its position of being a prostitute to the United States Of America or who ever else will pay is a revolution in its cultural matrix. This is the only thing; any other ideas are pure nonsense and are not even worth considering. I cannot write the praxis of Revolutionary Cultural Matrix in this box at this moment as it is the subject of my dissertation, and there are not enough minds in this forum that are able to make the change in consciousness necessary to understand its implications. However I can approach the subject from another angle which is the aspect of education. Most of you wont be able to understand the thrust of these ideas at this moment maybe in a hundred years you will, but there are a few who will and it is to that special few that have broken through and are now able to see that the matrix is a prison for your mind ( I am employing a lot of materials to aid in the clarification of this subject, I am a flipmodian and being one; I

see things from a kaleidoscope view, also I am a student of mythology and plug into the full spectrum of knowledge.) . Thanks to John H Clarke who Teaches that one should always leave a path or map in ones life that those coming after, can see where you have gone (this is the philosophy of the seventh generation think of those coming behind you those around you those who have gone before), and where they need to continue. Thus if you find that these post cause you psychological disturbance its great it means that deep within you there is a recognition that there is much truth in these post, the question is which pill will you chose blue or red, either you stay in the matrix as you are now or you wake up and start living (see the movie The Matrix ). The Bahamas has been sitting at the threshold of becoming a nation for the past 30 plus years, in the 1972 it achieve flag day. Bahamians pat themselves on the back, but we were not independent. not one of those persons knew a thing about being a nation and even to this day for the most part Bahamians have no idea what it takes to be a nation . While at high school I would ask what is a Bahamian?. What is this culture that makes us Bahamians? There must be a change in the Cultural Matrix if the Bahamas is going to move from a status of favorite prostitute to a nation and a stabilizer in the Caribbean region. But that subject is too vast for this forum and the ground here is not fertile so that these ideas would grow and sprout. Thus it is necessary to examine the philosophy of education.


What is education? In its essence education makes you a handler of power. What is power? In its essence power is the ability to define reality and have others respond to you from that definition of reality. This is the foundations of this argument. Now we arrive at an important junction one can be a technician and not be educated, where as technology teaches one process of repair and maintenance of various sub systems in a society. Technical training is carried out in universities and all other branches of a society that are responsible for the training of its citizens. Who are technicians these are your teachers doctors accountants engineers, scientist plumbers carpenters ad infinitum, I trust you get the picture. I remember that they taught me that technicians went through a technology program but that was just pure propaganda, thus in this argument no matter where you are in society you are a technician. So you yorkbrown are a technician, I am a technician, and you seventh generation are a technician (I feel like Mao author of the red book Chinese cultural hero) we are all technicians. What the holders of world power (aint this great by defining power you know what I am taking about) realize is that culture carries with it rules of thinking. When I became aware of this axiom I stopped sleeping for days it just shocked me to the core of my being. Culture carries with it rules for thinking, I am not going to go into the full discussion of this axiom here as there are no students of culture here, but I have faith that they will come, I have invited some of my comrades from flipmode to visit this place.


The only path that will save the Bahamas is the path of a revolution of the cultural matrix, but since that subject is too heavy for this box I can concentrate on a revolution in the field of education. From Flag Day, aka Independence Day the Bahamas has been sending its technicians to all corners of the earth to be trained in their various arts, science and philosophy, but what the country was not cognizant of is that each of these centers of training in all corners of the earth imparts its codes of thinking on its students. Yorkbrown as you are becoming the technician that you are you are also being given cultural codes of thinking; it’s these codes of thinking that I have to wrestle with all the time. It’s these codes of thinking that this mandatory ban on higher level of ignorance will inoculate Bahamians against. In essence the reason why the Bahamas remains a prostitute is that its population for the most part has been given codes for thinking that is antithetical to our survival. Let me make it simple if you can train a man or woman how to think you don’t have to worry about what they will do. This is the essence of Carter G Woodsons book The Miseducation of the Negro; I would suggest that you read it.


At this junction of time I have exhausted the introduction to why a ban on higher level of ignorance is mandatory its time to go deeper into this subject.


In passing are you really a Brown? I went to college of the Bahamas with a Rayon Brown do you know him?

Since you no doubt will be responding to this post yorkbrown I am looking for Bahamian news papers and radio station on line, and other forums can you help me?

By the way a Revolution starts with a dream.

[Abiskan Moon-Angel]

I would doubt that persons like Moon Angel would "agree" with your ban on overseas education. Without it, people like her would still be stuck in this country, unexposed and virtually uneducated in certain fields.
And as for your four questions, I've already discussed in a STRAIGHTFORWARD way, without cryptic psychobabble, why we need to continue learning from more advanced nations.
Do you really think that this country will survive without its citizens learning from those who have knowledge beyond our borders? One of the biggest problems that we have now is a glaring lack of global exposure in our private and public sectors. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that when more effective ways of doing things are made known, everyone benefits. Exposure to the world grants our people access to these globally efficient and effective ways of doing things.
You seem to desire locking this country down (like Castro does with Cuba) and controlling who learns what and from where they learn it. Mandating where our people get their education from is pure communism. Choice is key in a free society.
The biggest flaw in your "BAN" is that to begin implementing such a system we would have to bring in those who have this plethora of knowledge FROM ABROAD. Do you actually suggest that we implement a system where a Bahamian, who aims to become a doctor, is mandated to attend the "University of The Bahamas" - a place where they do not have access to the latest guidelines, procedures and medicines already designed and approved by INTERNATIONALLY regulated bodies? To add to that, if they do use these international standards, why wouldn't it just be easier to go ABROAD to learn the same thing.
A ban on overseas education? Man, you can't be serious.

ummm, ok i wasnt really following this topic, but i came across my name, so i thought i should have a little read! :driving: ok...yorick you make excellent points, but ones, (i thought) would be obvious to us all! im a huge advocate on living abroad and experiencing different cultures/meeting different people! i think its the only way to truly understand and respect those who may be 'different' from us, and it also provides excellent means of improving how we, as individuals, see things! this is necessary for our tiny insular country to grow!

Now i had to respond to Yorick's post because...quite frankly, a1000 - i simply cant respond to yours! too hard to read! you need to break it up man. i really CANNOT read your posts. i would like to get into the discussion. can you please, for everyone interested in this topic, use paragraphs and proper spacing @ least? also, it would be extremely helpful if you spoke in plain english for ditzes like me :tup:

[YorickBrown]

I am a flipmodian...

...By the way a Revolution starts with a dream.

Ah, that explains everything - A Flipmodian.

Revolution starts with a dream, eh? In the words of Spike Lee:

WAKE UP!!!

Yes, I am a Brown through and through. So what can Brown do for you today? Here's my website with links to Bahamian newpapers and live audio and video feeds of ZNS:


http://www.dabahamianting.com

[a1000]

ummm, ok i wasnt really following this topic, but i came across my name, so i thought i should have a little read! :driving: ok...yorick you make excellent points, but ones, (i thought) would be obvious to us all! im a huge advocate on living abroad and experiencing different cultures/meeting different people! i think its the only way to truly understand and respect those who may be 'different' from us, and it also provides excellent means of improving how we, as individuals, see things! this is necessary for our tiny insular country to grow!
Now i had to respond to Yorick's post because...quite frankly, a1000 - i simply cant respond to yours! too hard to read! you need to break it up man. i really CANNOT read your posts. i would like to get into the discussion. can you please, for everyone interested in this topic, use paragraphs and proper spacing @ least? also, it would be extremely helpful if you spoke in plain english for ditzes like me :tup:



Abiskan Moon-Angel: namaste.What is your attention span? (as a flipmodian I am authorize to use a variety of methods in the pursuit of a new world view, thus this question in this posting will serve as your paragraph breaks and indicate small chunks of ideas for you) I must however go back and restate my position that my post is not for everyone, if you are unable to follow it that’s ok, there are many shallow post on this website for members to post on and read. Being a critical thinker allows one to sift through a variety of material and medium regardless of the presentation. living in the box, or being a block head means that you are only able to see things in a limited and rigged manner. Where ever you find yourself mentally will determine how my post affects you.


What is your attention span? I have spent many hours evaluating the level of perception in this space; personally it’s very disheartening to see just the stagnation in mental development. I have been engaged for the past thirty years in the field of critical thinking, turning that research towards national cultures. This box is one of the sources that I use to gage development of a critical thinking national consciousness in the Bahamas.


What is your attention span? However since the subject of education is of vital importance to me and If you were reading all of the post in this thread you would realize deep level of the argument , Which is the philosophical nature of education. Unfortunately there are many here who do not read the entire post before running of at the fingers with their minds not engage.


What is your attention span? Personally if you need little paragraphs and small little post to digest a subject there are enough silly little one liners in this website , but in the greater reality how many of these one sentences and paragraphs do you think that the various branches of society produces. I am reading the 911 commission report do you know how many pages that is? I am also following the free trade policies are you aware of just the volume of material there? I took up the subject of lenght and presentation of a post with a member in this website when I first came here.


What is your mental attention span? Do you know that playing chess improves your mental attention span?


What is your attention span? If you find yourself with adult ADD I would recommend that one change one diet to a more plant base one with very little meat, cutting out as much process foods as possible, and what ever you do, don’t drink soft drinks. You should have at least three bowel movements a day constipation dose affect the clarity of ones mind, and from a number of post from certain members I can say that an enema would do them great, and they know who they are. The phrase full of ****, is a very deep one, reflect. Go vegan, I did. These are critical times, we as a people have a tendency to celebrate our mediocrity and cling to pathological tendencies that maintain our view of the world, you are better than this. As Morpheous says to Neo in the movie The Matrix “I am only trying to free your mind”


What is your attention span? Abiskan Moon-Angel, I am only trying to free your mind, you of all people are better than this.

[a1000]

Ah, that explains everything - A Flipmodian.

Revolution starts with a dream, eh? In the words of Spike Lee:

WAKE UP!!!

Yes, I am a Brown through and through. So what can Brown do for you today? Here's my website with links to Bahamian newpapers and live audio and video feeds of ZNS:


http://www.dabahamianting.com

To: Flipmode Squad, The Blockheads, Those who are maintaining there spaces and The Seventh Generation Namaste; a Hindi word meaning I honor the place where the universe resides the place of truth, justice , hope and love and when you are there and I am there we are one.


Thank you YorkBrown for the website.


John H Clark teaches that everything that touches ones life should be an instrument of ones liberation. Once again I have to draw on The Randomhouse College Dictionary copyright 1984.
Dream:

1. A succession of images, thoughts or emotions passing through the mind during sleep.

2. An object seen in a dream.

3. An involuntary vision occurring to a person awake.

4. A vision voluntarily indulged in while awake; daydreaming

5. An aspiration; goal; aim

6. A wild or vain fancy.

7. Something of an unreal beauty or charm.

8. The sleeping state in which a dream occurs.

9. To have a dream or dreams

10. To indulge in daydreams or reveries.

11. To think or conceive of something in a very remote way.

12. To see or imagine or in sleep or in vision.

13. To imagine as in a dream; fancy;

14. To pass or spend (time) in dreaming (often).


This argument deals with the philosophy of education at this junction I am referring to an older post made to AnajaNicole, followed by a post by Casual Observer which brings light to the subject of education as it is undertaken here:


1. Where my granolas are bars crunching tree hugging, dirt worshiping hippie comrades when I need them? Namaste all, I trust that you do realize the time that we are in? Bahmaboy the argument continues I hope this helps to explain my position better. Sapadilly thanks for the application, however I am dealing with the philosophy of education itself and calling for a revolution with in it?


AnjaNicole:I am sorry; but there is a misunderstanding here, my post are concerned with the issue of a graduating student seeking a job, and the relevance of higher levels of ignorance (education?) as it relates to the development of the country. I am calling for a mandatory ban on higher levels of ignorance (education?) until the Bahamas can in still in its people the concept of nation building. Education as I formally learnt from John h Clarke, but I informally learnt from my family and in the village is the ability to handle power. Power as it is used in this argument is the ability to define reality. I have made a distinction in terms of education and what goes on in most colleges, universities and grade schools because these train persons to become clogs in society, and you by your post provided me with the classical example. Go to school graduate and look for a job. This is in contrast to the concept of education as I am putting forth which is look at the Bahamas, look at your innate gifts and see how the marriage of these gifts lead to the development of self and country. If you had taken this approach then your life in the institution of ignorance would be much different, you would have left there with the ability to put your vision of the world into practice. Do you get it? Do you get it? Do you get it? What I am saying is that you have not been educated you have been made into a clog in the wheel of this economic system you don’t even have the capacity to see the world around you and take advantage of the trends, you are a body needing a job to grease the wheels of some company. You are in essence a slave to the dollar. I was that way once but now I am saved.

2. This is from a post by casual observer on the subject of technology at cob, it indicates the type of observation an educated mind would make. This is a classical example of what the revolution in the educational system I am proposing would create. “When I went to University of Western Ontario, we had a number of coffee houses, soda bars, study areas that were opened by a smart entrepreneur. He knew that college kids like to hang out in a safe atmosphere, eat and drink inexpensive food (pizza, hot dogs, sodas, etc). We also needed places to have study groups, internet access (dialup only in my day) and computers / printers to use. He made a killing by selling semester passes and a la carte services for students.

With the right business plan and small investment (say $10,000 to $15,000); someone could create quite a profitable venture by making The Study Room, Ltd. The interior could be sectioned off to provide a few large study tables in a quiet area, some computer kiosks, a small kitchen and soda bar/dining area.

While tech fees are paid to COB, there is nothing to stop a private individual from providing a much needed service that CoB can't satisfy. People will pay for the convenience of having access to the services, but with the right study decor it could become 'the place' to do your homework in a safe environment.

TigerDirect volume pricing for computers, printers, wi-fi access points, etc really are excellent, as Rory has pointed out already. Ultimately, services could expand to a copy center or business services to capture additional markets. I wouldn't mind lending a hand to write a BP and construct some P&L's, if someone were interested in looking at the venture.”

You are right that it is a dream as this is an aspiration, a goal, an aim.