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CG
10-30-05, - 10:00 AM
.....I am calling on a mandatory ban on higher levels of ignorance (aka education) over seas, in part because at these moments we have the resources to create the educational system that is needed for our particular situation. The ban will force those lazadasical intellectuals that we have among us to come to the vanguard position, it will force the revolution of the boarded up schools, and there is so much possibility when a people stop looking to others for their salvation and look to themselves. This is the rational for the ban it forces us to look at our selves, and it will get rid of the reactionaries and the bourgeoisie among us who live for the exploitation of the people....
I think Pol Pot already tried that!

YorickBrown
10-30-05, - 10:12 AM
Re: Bahamian Student Graduating in December seeks job.
Sapadilly: Namaste, a Hindi word meaning I honor the place in you where the universe resides the place of peace, love truth and justice, when you are there and I am there we are one.
A small note on up coming events in January there will be the African student leadership conference in holly springs Mississippi, it’s a very empowering event I am going with a group I would recommend that you attend. Thanks for the heads up on the im and on chomsky may be we should do a conscious/ revolutionary book list post so that we can compare materials since our objectives are the same despite the difference in technique.
Returning to the argument, I am in agreement with you in terms of an understanding of what the nature of the problem. However where our disagreements lie is in how to solve the problem:
1. Impose a mandatory ban on higher level of ignorance ( aka some times called higher levels of education) over seas.
2. Work within the system.
I am pushing for a mandatory ban, due to the fact that there will be a change in the cultural matrix of the society; I have posted on the issue of the cultural matrix under the post armed police in schools and under the post civil liberties. There is a common thread in all these post and since I am afflicted with synthesis I read the entire collective of post from a cultural matrix perspective.
Why a ban? Time is needed for the society as a whole to absorb new concepts into its cultural matrix. Old and destructive concepts must be removed, this process will leave individuals weak and susceptive other cultural matrices, thus we would want to protect individuals and the society until it is ready to engage the world again. The society will be infused with a new vision, at each level, from the fetus level to the elderly adult, each generation is being given the cultural vision, such that it will be grow from generation to generation, at the conscious and subconscious level. This change will result in the sweeping away of old forms, that is the present system of education, general orders and would I go as far as saying that even the system of government would be swept away resulting in new dynamic holistic systems of living. In fact this revolution will manifest it self in all nine areas of a people’s activity:
1. economics
2. education
3. entertainment
4. labor
5. law
6. politics
7. religion
8. sex
9. war
I am calling on a mandatory ban on higher levels of ignorance (aka education) over seas, in part because at these moments we have the resources to create the educational system that is needed for our particular situation. The ban will force those lazadasical intellectuals that we have among us to come to the vanguard position, it will force the revolution of the boarded up schools, and there is so much possibility when a people stop looking to others for their salvation and look to themselves. This is the rational for the ban it forces us to look at our selves, and it will get rid of the reactionaries and the bourgeoisie among us who live for the exploitation of the people. I say bring on the ban bring it on yesterday back in 1992 when I campaigned for the FNM I thought the revolution had begun when we got rid of the PLP but we as a people did not push the envelope Now Is The Time, Ban Higher Education over seas. No more students going over seas with empty heads looking to be filled and coming back looking for jobs. Make COB real, Make the educational system real. This is my position.


If your recommendations are the future of our educational system, then God help us all.

You are proposing the death of intellect in this nation, for the minute we ban sending the best of our kids (those who dont have a D average) overseas to more advanced universities and colleges, we will only be left with a bunch of insular island people.

Without my Post Bachelors exposure abroad, I would not have been able to succeed in my business field. Yes, I did come back home looking for a job, but that was only common sense. I knew that I had to get the pulse of the local industry before I branched out on my own. This is what universities abroad teach many of our students - that before you dive into something, you have to weigh the pros and cons, as well as doing your research towards your own continuous improvement.

Our survival depends on the continued sharing of information with larger more developed nations. I propose the exact opposite of what you do. Make going overseas mandatory for all students for at least two years of education - even if its only for trade schooling. The experience alone will open some person's eyes to their true place in this world.

With an island nation that cannot manage its own high school system properly, how in the world can you propose that we take the burden of all tertiary education for our youth? Get real. Do you know the investment that would have to be made in bringing foreign professors in to guide our kids towards some of the more advanced degrees? The Bahamas does not have the resources to take on all the tertiary education needs of our people.

This world is a rapidly changing place. Yes there are instances of colonialism running rampant, but your approach of "going it solo" only proves your naivety. You speak of revolution. You sound like the typical "do-nothing" revolutionary with pipe dreams of creating your own "world" for your own people. Guess what? You are not ready! Our leaders are not ready and our people are not ready. Be honest with yourself.

If you want to see a good plan of "revolution", I sugggest you look at the growing Latino population in the US. Watch them carefully. They do not foolishly try to circumvent the "system" or take it over. They work with it, learn from it and perfect it, using the tools given to them to carve out their own niche. Their success in the past few decades is undeniable.

The strong countries of the world would be foolish to accept those who dare to openly reject and fight against them. You dare to propose doing this without no solid plan of action to fall back on or anyone who is qualified to take on the challenges involved. The sacrifice has to be made. Our best minds have to be placed in the best countries with the plan of them returning to share that knowledge. This will ensure the future of this country.

You are nothing but a fraud and a misleading force who will only pull down those who are foolish enough to follow you down your misleading path. The strong will survive and right now you are weak - So weak in fact, that you grab hold of a few ideologies, piece them together and spit them out trying to make sense of something that you, nor those around you, are not ready for.

I chide you like this, 'cause I used to think along simliar lines. Then I realized that I was alone (with only a few others), punching the brick wall of colonialism. Here's a tip, if you want to eliminate the "brick wall", you have to use a bulldozer, and guess who you get one of those from? The very people who made the "brick wall". Noam Chomsky and his ilk are merely chisels in the entire scheme of things. You may make a slight dent, but you're really not getting anywhere.

You are a childish dreamer who dares to speak about a revolution that you have not the slighest clue of how to start. Take some advice from the "Art of War":

A wise warrior doesn't fight the battle until after he has already won.

Revolution? Ha! Revolution my arse.

a1000
11-03-05, - 09:59 AM
If your recommendations are the future of our educational system, then God help us all.

You are proposing the death of intellect in this nation, for the minute we ban sending the best of our kids (those who dont have a D average) overseas to more advanced universities and colleges, we will only be left with a bunch of insular island people.

Without my Post Bachelors exposure abroad, I would not have been able to succeed in my business field. Yes, I did come back home looking for a job, but that was only common sense. I knew that I had to get the pulse of the local industry before I branched out on my own. This is what universities abroad teach many of our students - that before you dive into something, you have to weigh the pros and cons, as well as doing your research towards your own continuous improvement.

Our survival depends on the continued sharing of information with larger more developed nations. I propose the exact opposite of what you do. Make going overseas mandatory for all students for at least two years of education - even if its only for trade schooling. The experience alone will open some person's eyes to their true place in this world.

With an island nation that cannot manage its own high school system properly, how in the world can you propose that we take the burden of all tertiary education for our youth? Get real. Do you know the investment that would have to be made in bringing foreign professors in to guide our kids towards some of the more advanced degrees? The Bahamas does not have the resources to take on all the tertiary education needs of our people.

This world is a rapidly changing place. Yes there are instances of colonialism running rampant, but your approach of "going it solo" only proves your naivety. You speak of revolution. You sound like the typical "do-nothing" revolutionary with pipe dreams of creating your own "world" for your own people. Guess what? You are not ready! Our leaders are not ready and our people are not ready. Be honest with yourself.

If you want to see a good plan of "revolution", I sugggest you look at the growing Latino population in the US. Watch them carefully. They do not foolishly try to circumvent the "system" or take it over. They work with it, learn from it and perfect it, using the tools given to them to carve out their own niche. Their success in the past few decades is undeniable.

The strong countries of the world would be foolish to accept those who dare to openly reject and fight against them. You dare to propose doing this without no solid plan of action to fall back on or anyone who is qualified to take on the challenges involved. The sacrifice has to be made. Our best minds have to be placed in the best countries with the plan of them returning to share that knowledge. This will ensure the future of this country.

You are nothing but a fraud and a misleading force who will only pull down those who are foolish enough to follow you down your misleading path. The strong will survive and right now you are weak - So weak in fact, that you grab hold of a few ideologies, piece them together and spit them out trying to make sense of something that you, nor those around you, are not ready for.

I chide you like this, 'cause I used to think along simliar lines. Then I realized that I was alone (with only a few others), punching the brick wall of colonialism. Here's a tip, if you want to eliminate the "brick wall", you have to use a bulldozer, and guess who you get one of those from? The very people who made the "brick wall". Noam Chomsky and his ilk are merely chisels in the entire scheme of things. You may make a slight dent, but you're really not getting anywhere.

You are a childish dreamer who dares to speak about a revolution that you have not the slighest clue of how to start. Take some advice from the "Art of War":

A wise warrior doesn't fight the battle until after he has already won.

Revolution? Ha! Revolution my arse.

To Flipmode Squad, The shenanigans , Seventh Generation, The Block Heads, Counterrevolutionary, impotent intellectuals, bourgeoisie and my Hippie comrades: I give my respects to those who make up the vanguard and are pushing the revolution into the hearts and minds of the masses. As the great African American singer Sam Cook Sang a Change Will Come.
Returning to the subject at hand; Yorick Brown this is an argument into the philosophy of education. Where the definition of philosophy is taken from The Random House College Dictionary copyright 1984 edition; Philosophy:


1. The rational investigation of the truths and principals of being, knowledge or conduct.

2. A system of philosophical doctrine.

3. The study of the basic principles and concepts of a particular branch of knowledge.

4. A system of principles for guidance in practical affairs.


it was spawned by the post of Anjanichole requesting employment, at this present junction in time Sapadilly and I have by various methods of reached an agreement that the present system of education in the Bahamas is pathologically flawed, a full discussion of the nature of that pathology has been expanded in post by sapadilly and myself. We are examining in this space/forum; the implementation of an educational system that is created for the people that embraces concepts such as nation building. Due to the colossal nature of our undertaking the only word that describes it is Revolutionary. however November is a month I have dedicated to the study of Malcolm X since he and John H Clarke were great friends, I remember Clarke saying that Malcolm had one of the sharpest minds, by extension one of the things that I have found amazing about Malcolm is that he did a study of the dictionary thus in his memory going back to The Random House College Dictionary Copyright 1984 edition Revolution:

1. A forcible overthrow of an establish government or political system by the people governed.

2. A complete, pervasive usually radical change in something often made relatively quickly.

3. A procedure or course as if in a circuit back to a starting point.

The Great African American Historian and Educator, father of Black History month in his monumental work The Miseducation of The Negro wrote that if you train a man / woman how to think you do not have to worry about them going through the back door as if there is not one they will make one for themselves. This was true in the 1940 as it is true in the year 2005 among the majority of college university educated persons in fact this malaise is not confined to just the post high school level but it pervades the psyche of the majority of educated persons irrespective of there level of education. In fact I must thank you for providing this argument with more supporting evidence visa v the following statements:

1. The ban on overseas education results in intellectual death?

2. University teaches students that before you dive into something you have to weigh the pros and cons as well as doing your research towards your own continuous development.

3. Our survival depends on shared information with over developed countries.

4. An island nation unable to manage its own high school system.


These are exactly the type of thinking that the system of education that I am proposing will eliminate, (in fact should I dare be so modest but I have out lined the core of the curriculum of this educational system as they say in Amway aint it great!) Each one of these four propositions has been careful examined and explained please see post to anjanichole addressing these issues.

YorickBrown this is an argument on The philosophy of Education, if you are going to be considered as a serious scholar/commentator then some changes in attitude will be needed first of leave the personal attacks at home, you don’t know who I am except for my post, and I don’t know who you are except for your post. I have engaged you before on various different topics I don’t agree with a lot of your analysis but that’s life. However in regards to the Art Of war I have been reading it form 1988 and I reread it twice a year. Asian philosophy is a philosophic interest of mine. I am having a great time working through this discussion with Sapadilly, and (along with encounters with Abaskan Moon-Angel,) in fact it is one of the most pleasant discussions that I have been engaged in since coming to this place. As this is an Argument if you are a participant, you will be expected to substantiate your claims, use as many sources that you like but don’t go on a rampage about Naom Chomsky unless you have facts to back up your claim .


Until the next post.

YorickBrown
11-03-05, - 06:20 PM
I would doubt that persons like Moon Angel would "agree" with your ban on overseas education. Without it, people like her would still be stuck in this country, unexposed and virtually uneducated in certain fields.

And as for your four questions, I've already discussed in a STRAIGHTFORWARD way, without cryptic psychobabble, why we need to continue learning from more advanced nations.

Do you really think that this country will survive without its citizens learning from those who have knowledge beyond our borders? One of the biggest problems that we have now is a glaring lack of global exposure in our private and public sectors. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that when more effective ways of doing things are made known, everyone benefits. Exposure to the world grants our people access to these globally efficient and effective ways of doing things.

You seem to desire locking this country down (like Castro does with Cuba) and controlling who learns what and from where they learn it. Mandating where our people get their education from is pure communism. Choice is key in a free society.

The biggest flaw in your "BAN" is that to begin implementing such a system we would have to bring in those who have this plethora of knowledge FROM ABROAD. Do you actually suggest that we implement a system where a Bahamian, who aims to become a doctor, is mandated to attend the "University of The Bahamas" - a place where they do not have access to the latest guidelines, procedures and medicines already designed and approved by INTERNATIONALLY regulated bodies? To add to that, if they do use these international standards, why wouldn't it just be easier to go ABROAD to learn the same thing.

A ban on overseas education? Man, you can't be serious.

a1000
11-04-05, - 09:32 AM
To Flipmode Squad, The Block Heads, My Hippie comrades, The Seventh Generation and in honor of the Vanguard who are pushing the envelope of possibility Namaste; a Hindi word meaning I honor the place in you where the universe resides the place of peace, love, truth and justice and when you are there and I am there we are one.


Let us get straight to the point, the only thing that will save the Bahamas, remove it from its obscure position on the world stage, its position of being a prostitute to the United States Of America or who ever else will pay is a revolution in its cultural matrix. This is the only thing; any other ideas are pure nonsense and are not even worth considering. I cannot write the praxis of Revolutionary Cultural Matrix in this box at this moment as it is the subject of my dissertation, and there are not enough minds in this forum that are able to make the change in consciousness necessary to understand its implications. However I can approach the subject from another angle which is the aspect of education. Most of you wont be able to understand the thrust of these ideas at this moment maybe in a hundred years you will, but there are a few who will and it is to that special few that have broken through and are now able to see that the matrix is a prison for your mind ( I am employing a lot of materials to aid in the clarification of this subject, I am a flipmodian and being one; I

see things from a kaleidoscope view, also I am a student of mythology and plug into the full spectrum of knowledge.) . Thanks to John H Clarke who Teaches that one should always leave a path or map in ones life that those coming after, can see where you have gone (this is the philosophy of the seventh generation think of those coming behind you those around you those who have gone before), and where they need to continue. Thus if you find that these post cause you psychological disturbance its great it means that deep within you there is a recognition that there is much truth in these post, the question is which pill will you chose blue or red, either you stay in the matrix as you are now or you wake up and start living (see the movie The Matrix ). The Bahamas has been sitting at the threshold of becoming a nation for the past 30 plus years, in the 1972 it achieve flag day. Bahamians pat themselves on the back, but we were not independent. not one of those persons knew a thing about being a nation and even to this day for the most part Bahamians have no idea what it takes to be a nation . While at high school I would ask what is a Bahamian?. What is this culture that makes us Bahamians? There must be a change in the Cultural Matrix if the Bahamas is going to move from a status of favorite prostitute to a nation and a stabilizer in the Caribbean region. But that subject is too vast for this forum and the ground here is not fertile so that these ideas would grow and sprout. Thus it is necessary to examine the philosophy of education.


What is education? In its essence education makes you a handler of power. What is power? In its essence power is the ability to define reality and have others respond to you from that definition of reality. This is the foundations of this argument. Now we arrive at an important junction one can be a technician and not be educated, where as technology teaches one process of repair and maintenance of various sub systems in a society. Technical training is carried out in universities and all other branches of a society that are responsible for the training of its citizens. Who are technicians these are your teachers doctors accountants engineers, scientist plumbers carpenters ad infinitum, I trust you get the picture. I remember that they taught me that technicians went through a technology program but that was just pure propaganda, thus in this argument no matter where you are in society you are a technician. So you yorkbrown are a technician, I am a technician, and you seventh generation are a technician (I feel like Mao author of the red book Chinese cultural hero) we are all technicians. What the holders of world power (aint this great by defining power you know what I am taking about) realize is that culture carries with it rules of thinking. When I became aware of this axiom I stopped sleeping for days it just shocked me to the core of my being. Culture carries with it rules for thinking, I am not going to go into the full discussion of this axiom here as there are no students of culture here, but I have faith that they will come, I have invited some of my comrades from flipmode to visit this place.


The only path that will save the Bahamas is the path of a revolution of the cultural matrix, but since that subject is too heavy for this box I can concentrate on a revolution in the field of education. From Flag Day, aka Independence Day the Bahamas has been sending its technicians to all corners of the earth to be trained in their various arts, science and philosophy, but what the country was not cognizant of is that each of these centers of training in all corners of the earth imparts its codes of thinking on its students. Yorkbrown as you are becoming the technician that you are you are also being given cultural codes of thinking; it’s these codes of thinking that I have to wrestle with all the time. It’s these codes of thinking that this mandatory ban on higher level of ignorance will inoculate Bahamians against. In essence the reason why the Bahamas remains a prostitute is that its population for the most part has been given codes for thinking that is antithetical to our survival. Let me make it simple if you can train a man or woman how to think you don’t have to worry about what they will do. This is the essence of Carter G Woodsons book The Miseducation of the Negro; I would suggest that you read it.


At this junction of time I have exhausted the introduction to why a ban on higher level of ignorance is mandatory its time to go deeper into this subject.


In passing are you really a Brown? I went to college of the Bahamas with a Rayon Brown do you know him?

Since you no doubt will be responding to this post yorkbrown I am looking for Bahamian news papers and radio station on line, and other forums can you help me?

By the way a Revolution starts with a dream.

Abiskan Moon-Angel
11-04-05, - 11:20 AM
I would doubt that persons like Moon Angel would "agree" with your ban on overseas education. Without it, people like her would still be stuck in this country, unexposed and virtually uneducated in certain fields.
And as for your four questions, I've already discussed in a STRAIGHTFORWARD way, without cryptic psychobabble, why we need to continue learning from more advanced nations.
Do you really think that this country will survive without its citizens learning from those who have knowledge beyond our borders? One of the biggest problems that we have now is a glaring lack of global exposure in our private and public sectors. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that when more effective ways of doing things are made known, everyone benefits. Exposure to the world grants our people access to these globally efficient and effective ways of doing things.
You seem to desire locking this country down (like Castro does with Cuba) and controlling who learns what and from where they learn it. Mandating where our people get their education from is pure communism. Choice is key in a free society.
The biggest flaw in your "BAN" is that to begin implementing such a system we would have to bring in those who have this plethora of knowledge FROM ABROAD. Do you actually suggest that we implement a system where a Bahamian, who aims to become a doctor, is mandated to attend the "University of The Bahamas" - a place where they do not have access to the latest guidelines, procedures and medicines already designed and approved by INTERNATIONALLY regulated bodies? To add to that, if they do use these international standards, why wouldn't it just be easier to go ABROAD to learn the same thing.
A ban on overseas education? Man, you can't be serious.

ummm, ok i wasnt really following this topic, but i came across my name, so i thought i should have a little read! :driving: ok...yorick you make excellent points, but ones, (i thought) would be obvious to us all! im a huge advocate on living abroad and experiencing different cultures/meeting different people! i think its the only way to truly understand and respect those who may be 'different' from us, and it also provides excellent means of improving how we, as individuals, see things! this is necessary for our tiny insular country to grow!

Now i had to respond to Yorick's post because...quite frankly, a1000 - i simply cant respond to yours! too hard to read! you need to break it up man. i really CANNOT read your posts. i would like to get into the discussion. can you please, for everyone interested in this topic, use paragraphs and proper spacing @ least? also, it would be extremely helpful if you spoke in plain english for ditzes like me :tup:

YorickBrown
11-04-05, - 08:52 PM
I am a flipmodian...

...By the way a Revolution starts with a dream.

Ah, that explains everything - A Flipmodian.

Revolution starts with a dream, eh? In the words of Spike Lee:

WAKE UP!!!

Yes, I am a Brown through and through. So what can Brown do for you today? Here's my website with links to Bahamian newpapers and live audio and video feeds of ZNS:

http://www.dabahamianting.com

a1000
11-06-05, - 11:13 AM
ummm, ok i wasnt really following this topic, but i came across my name, so i thought i should have a little read! :driving: ok...yorick you make excellent points, but ones, (i thought) would be obvious to us all! im a huge advocate on living abroad and experiencing different cultures/meeting different people! i think its the only way to truly understand and respect those who may be 'different' from us, and it also provides excellent means of improving how we, as individuals, see things! this is necessary for our tiny insular country to grow!
Now i had to respond to Yorick's post because...quite frankly, a1000 - i simply cant respond to yours! too hard to read! you need to break it up man. i really CANNOT read your posts. i would like to get into the discussion. can you please, for everyone interested in this topic, use paragraphs and proper spacing @ least? also, it would be extremely helpful if you spoke in plain english for ditzes like me :tup:



Abiskan Moon-Angel: namaste.What is your attention span? (as a flipmodian I am authorize to use a variety of methods in the pursuit of a new world view, thus this question in this posting will serve as your paragraph breaks and indicate small chunks of ideas for you) I must however go back and restate my position that my post is not for everyone, if you are unable to follow it that’s ok, there are many shallow post on this website for members to post on and read. Being a critical thinker allows one to sift through a variety of material and medium regardless of the presentation. living in the box, or being a block head means that you are only able to see things in a limited and rigged manner. Where ever you find yourself mentally will determine how my post affects you.


What is your attention span? I have spent many hours evaluating the level of perception in this space; personally it’s very disheartening to see just the stagnation in mental development. I have been engaged for the past thirty years in the field of critical thinking, turning that research towards national cultures. This box is one of the sources that I use to gage development of a critical thinking national consciousness in the Bahamas.


What is your attention span? However since the subject of education is of vital importance to me and If you were reading all of the post in this thread you would realize deep level of the argument , Which is the philosophical nature of education. Unfortunately there are many here who do not read the entire post before running of at the fingers with their minds not engage.


What is your attention span? Personally if you need little paragraphs and small little post to digest a subject there are enough silly little one liners in this website , but in the greater reality how many of these one sentences and paragraphs do you think that the various branches of society produces. I am reading the 911 commission report do you know how many pages that is? I am also following the free trade policies are you aware of just the volume of material there? I took up the subject of lenght and presentation of a post with a member in this website when I first came here.


What is your mental attention span? Do you know that playing chess improves your mental attention span?


What is your attention span? If you find yourself with adult ADD I would recommend that one change one diet to a more plant base one with very little meat, cutting out as much process foods as possible, and what ever you do, don’t drink soft drinks. You should have at least three bowel movements a day constipation dose affect the clarity of ones mind, and from a number of post from certain members I can say that an enema would do them great, and they know who they are. The phrase full of ****, is a very deep one, reflect. Go vegan, I did. These are critical times, we as a people have a tendency to celebrate our mediocrity and cling to pathological tendencies that maintain our view of the world, you are better than this. As Morpheous says to Neo in the movie The Matrix “I am only trying to free your mind”


What is your attention span? Abiskan Moon-Angel, I am only trying to free your mind, you of all people are better than this.

a1000
11-06-05, - 01:20 PM
Ah, that explains everything - A Flipmodian.

Revolution starts with a dream, eh? In the words of Spike Lee:

WAKE UP!!!

Yes, I am a Brown through and through. So what can Brown do for you today? Here's my website with links to Bahamian newpapers and live audio and video feeds of ZNS:

http://www.dabahamianting.com

To: Flipmode Squad, The Blockheads, Those who are maintaining there spaces and The Seventh Generation Namaste; a Hindi word meaning I honor the place where the universe resides the place of truth, justice , hope and love and when you are there and I am there we are one.


Thank you YorkBrown for the website.


John H Clark teaches that everything that touches ones life should be an instrument of ones liberation. Once again I have to draw on The Randomhouse College Dictionary copyright 1984.
Dream:

1. A succession of images, thoughts or emotions passing through the mind during sleep.

2. An object seen in a dream.

3. An involuntary vision occurring to a person awake.

4. A vision voluntarily indulged in while awake; daydreaming

5. An aspiration; goal; aim

6. A wild or vain fancy.

7. Something of an unreal beauty or charm.

8. The sleeping state in which a dream occurs.

9. To have a dream or dreams

10. To indulge in daydreams or reveries.

11. To think or conceive of something in a very remote way.

12. To see or imagine or in sleep or in vision.

13. To imagine as in a dream; fancy;

14. To pass or spend (time) in dreaming (often).


This argument deals with the philosophy of education at this junction I am referring to an older post made to AnajaNicole, followed by a post by Casual Observer which brings light to the subject of education as it is undertaken here:


1. Where my granolas are bars crunching tree hugging, dirt worshiping hippie comrades when I need them? Namaste all, I trust that you do realize the time that we are in? Bahmaboy the argument continues I hope this helps to explain my position better. Sapadilly thanks for the application, however I am dealing with the philosophy of education itself and calling for a revolution with in it?


AnjaNicole:I am sorry; but there is a misunderstanding here, my post are concerned with the issue of a graduating student seeking a job, and the relevance of higher levels of ignorance (education?) as it relates to the development of the country. I am calling for a mandatory ban on higher levels of ignorance (education?) until the Bahamas can in still in its people the concept of nation building. Education as I formally learnt from John h Clarke, but I informally learnt from my family and in the village is the ability to handle power. Power as it is used in this argument is the ability to define reality. I have made a distinction in terms of education and what goes on in most colleges, universities and grade schools because these train persons to become clogs in society, and you by your post provided me with the classical example. Go to school graduate and look for a job. This is in contrast to the concept of education as I am putting forth which is look at the Bahamas, look at your innate gifts and see how the marriage of these gifts lead to the development of self and country. If you had taken this approach then your life in the institution of ignorance would be much different, you would have left there with the ability to put your vision of the world into practice. Do you get it? Do you get it? Do you get it? What I am saying is that you have not been educated you have been made into a clog in the wheel of this economic system you don’t even have the capacity to see the world around you and take advantage of the trends, you are a body needing a job to grease the wheels of some company. You are in essence a slave to the dollar. I was that way once but now I am saved.

2. This is from a post by casual observer on the subject of technology at cob, it indicates the type of observation an educated mind would make. This is a classical example of what the revolution in the educational system I am proposing would create. “When I went to University of Western Ontario, we had a number of coffee houses, soda bars, study areas that were opened by a smart entrepreneur. He knew that college kids like to hang out in a safe atmosphere, eat and drink inexpensive food (pizza, hot dogs, sodas, etc). We also needed places to have study groups, internet access (dialup only in my day) and computers / printers to use. He made a killing by selling semester passes and a la carte services for students.

With the right business plan and small investment (say $10,000 to $15,000); someone could create quite a profitable venture by making The Study Room, Ltd. The interior could be sectioned off to provide a few large study tables in a quiet area, some computer kiosks, a small kitchen and soda bar/dining area.

While tech fees are paid to COB, there is nothing to stop a private individual from providing a much needed service that CoB can't satisfy. People will pay for the convenience of having access to the services, but with the right study decor it could become 'the place' to do your homework in a safe environment.

TigerDirect volume pricing for computers, printers, wi-fi access points, etc really are excellent, as Rory has pointed out already. Ultimately, services could expand to a copy center or business services to capture additional markets. I wouldn't mind lending a hand to write a BP and construct some P&L's, if someone were interested in looking at the venture.”

You are right that it is a dream as this is an aspiration, a goal, an aim.