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chancellor
09-13-05, - 10:02 PM
With all the hully dully goin on these past months in a row, and with all the mounting issues that's still being debated, the only thing that is keeping me alive is the prospect that our country, The Commonwealth of The Bahamas may become a developed nation within fifteen years. :cool:

Mr. Mitchell said in the Nassau Guardian today that we are well on the way to this goal and may become a developed nation by 2020 (God spares life and the Earth, considering global warming). The UNited Nations Development report revealed that we are on track for the majority of the Millenium Development Goals for 2015. Trinidad And Tobago are also stiving towards this status for the same target year. Well I know that we as a nation was capable of doing such a thing. One thing that needs to be focused on though is education...seriously. Without that there is no hope. I see this as a literal light at the end of the tunnel and It was some kind of good news to look forward to for once. I just thought I should share it.

canewry
09-13-05, - 10:05 PM
With all the hully dully goin on these past months in a row, and with all the mounting issues that's still being debated, the only thing that is keeping me alive is the prospect that our country, The Commonwealth of The Bahamas may become a developed nation within fifteen years. :cool:

Mr. Mitchell said in the Nassau Guardian today that we are well on the way to this goal and may become a developed nation by 2020 (God spares life and the Earth, considering global warming). The UNited Nations Development report revealed that we are on track for the majority of the Millenium Development Goals for 2015. Trinidad And Tobago are also stiving towards this status for the same target year. Well I know that we as a nation was capable of doing such a thing. One thing that needs to be focused on though is education...seriously. Without that there is no hope. I see this as a literal light at the end of the tunnel and It was some kind of good news to look forward to for once. I just thought I should share it.


lmao....
suck teeth....

chancellor
09-13-05, - 10:09 PM
lol
nothing to complain about here? or too far away to think about?

CG
09-13-05, - 10:19 PM
lol
nothing to complain about here? or too far away to think about?

That would be nice to see but as the old saying goes, "There is many a slip twixt the cup and the lips." In short, a lot can happen in that time. :eek:

islandgyal
09-13-05, - 10:21 PM
Trinidad and Tobago are so far ahead of us it isn't even funny ... no comparison whatsoever. Our students can't even read and write properly, yet Trinbegonians are now making Spanish a mandatory second language.

Wake up, Ministry of (lackadaisical) Education! You're wasting another generation away with your lack of initiative.

a1000
09-14-05, - 12:08 AM
With all the hully dully goin on these past months in a row, and with all the mounting issues that's still being debated, the only thing that is keeping me alive is the prospect that our country, The Commonwealth of The Bahamas may become a developed nation within fifteen years. :cool:

Mr. Mitchell said in the Nassau Guardian today that we are well on the way to this goal and may become a developed nation by 2020 (God spares life and the Earth, considering global warming). The UNited Nations Development report revealed that we are on track for the majority of the Millenium Development Goals for 2015. Trinidad And Tobago are also stiving towards this status for the same target year. Well I know that we as a nation was capable of doing such a thing. One thing that needs to be focused on though is education...seriously. Without that there is no hope. I see this as a literal light at the end of the tunnel and It was some kind of good news to look forward to for once. I just thought I should share it.

i wonder if you would share with me exactly what the charcteristics of this develope nation will be?

Teniel
09-14-05, - 02:38 AM
I want to be as optimisitc as I can be concerning my country, but I feel that the prospect of us becoming a developed nation will be halted by our educational system. This more than anything else in my opinion, will make us or break us as a country. We need to improve our education system, because it is laughable at all levels (primary to tertiary).

Great Demos
09-14-05, - 05:19 AM
I want to be as optimisitc as I can be concerning my country, but I feel that the prospect of us becoming a developed nation will be halted by our educational system. This more than anything else in my opinion, will make us or break us as a country. We need to improve our education system, because it is laughable at all levels (primary to tertiary).

Point taken. But now let's get behind what is messing up our educational system. Them same people we have governing us!

I recall the old govt high school -- just ask some of the old scholars, I mean that school was almost like a university! It was a very high standard for students to attain, 'cause their entrance exams were very difficult to pass! I honestly believe that if the then govt had handled that situation in the right way, the old govt high would have evolved naturally into the university of the Bahamas since around about 1980!

But soon after the first PLP govt came to power, the high standards, in my opinion, were compromised in that the govt made all the so-called elementary schools into high schools, even though the syllabuses and teachers were not up to the standard of a high school!

It just seemed that because many of them had attained a high level of education from the old govt high, they were not too keen on others reaching that high level!

So as the situation is now, as students go overseas for university training we could end up having a brain drain when they are offered good positions/jobs in other countries!

YorickBrown
09-14-05, - 09:15 AM
I want to be as optimisitc as I can be concerning my country, but I feel that the prospect of us becoming a developed nation will be halted by our educational system. This more than anything else in my opinion, will make us or break us as a country. We need to improve our education system, because it is laughable at all levels (primary to tertiary).

Teniel and Great Demos have summed up our primary challenge - Education.

That, combined with our reliance on Tourism and Finance (two very volatile industries), indeed will hinder our progress. Let's also not forget the willy nilly, half-assed ways that some of our various Ministries are run and we have the perfect recipe for becoming a stagnant nation.

Our telecommunication, water, sewerage, and electrical infrastructure needs a complete overhaul, we rely on outside developers to invest in and develop our land, we are largely unable to protect our borders, and allegations of corruption and incompetence have been placed against our highest levels of government. A developed nation? As much as my heart claims this country, we all need to take off our Bacardi Rum goggles and see how the foundation of this society is deteriorating, slowly but surely. Christie needs to crack the whip and fix the situation quick and fast or it will only get worse.

And, by the way, just because a Minister says it, that doesn't necessarily make it so. Note that quite a few problems in this country are surfacing at the same time right now. The people need some "good news". Political tactic - detract and distract.

canewry
09-14-05, - 03:19 PM
Point taken. But now let's get behind what is messing up our educational system. Them same people we have governing us!

I recall the old govt high school -- just ask some of the old scholars, I mean that school was almost like a university! It was a very high standard for students to attain, 'cause their entrance exams were very difficult to pass! I honestly believe that if the then govt had handled that situation in the right way, the old govt high would have evolved naturally into the university of the Bahamas since around about 1980!


CoB was created from the old Government high school!!

chancellor
09-14-05, - 11:22 PM
If you want to know how this is supposed to be achieved look at the UN Millenium development goals.

http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/

a1000
09-15-05, - 08:15 AM
If you want to know how this is supposed to be achieved look at the UN Millenium development goals.

http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/

Chancellor: So once again some one else is determing what our reality is, hwy dont we stop being so mentally lazay and define these things for ourselves!

chancellor
09-15-05, - 05:16 PM
You take it as people telling you what to do....I see it as help, and not because anyone is lazy. Whats to be so defensive about? Nobody is stripping anything away from us and the one thing we need is goals. Neither has anything been dictated, we could have walked away but we didnt and I think that was a smart thing to do for once. Have you stopped to notice that some of the things that our governments have done was carried out by following the goals? Many of the things outlined in the goals are things that the Bahamian people have been advocating for years, and most of us agree that our main focus here need to be education, not just for every child to go to school , but to actually learn something. So whats the mental lazyness here? (except maybe on the government's part)

Of course we as a nation and many other nations may soon need to learn what self help is in order to achieve progress, but the bottom line is we are a developing country, and like many other such nations whether poor or better off, we need some kind of help or consultation. It would be foolish to go alone.

a1000
09-16-05, - 08:22 AM
If you want to know how this is supposed to be achieved look at the UN Millenium development goals.

http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/


Chancellor: So once again some one else is determing what our reality is, hwy dont we stop being so mentally lazay and define these things for ourselves!

Chancellor: i looked at the websight you posted, i saw a list of things that the un wants to address, also i found this under development strategy, can you tell me where in this websight you are drawing your idea of development from?
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Chapter 2. Where we stand with only a decade to go
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Chapter 3. Why the world is falling short of the Goals
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Chapter 4. MDG-based poverty reduction strategies
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Chapter 5. Public investments to empower poor people
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Chapter 12. Strategies for countries affected by conflict
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Chapter 13. Fixing the aid system
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Chapter 14. A global breakthrough in trade
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Chapter 15. Regional and global goods
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Chapter 16. Getting started in 2005: launching a decade of bold ambition
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Chapter 17. Resources required to finance the Millennium Development Goals
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My point is that we have to get of our rear ends and define where we are going as a people? we have too look at where we have been? Next, where are we now? we are just fooling are selves if we are not engage in this process. First of we have to answere those 3 questions before we get involve in some silly exercise of the un.

finekameo
09-16-05, - 04:34 PM
I really don't see why this is such a big debate. Bahamians constantly go to the United States to shop. Bahamian students attend school in the US and in Canada, and in many cases they never return to their native homes. The reason is that the Bahamas is seen by many foreign nationals and by many Bahamians as an undeveloped nation. The goals that Chancellor pointed out are simply goals that will allow us to remain viable as a nation for years and years to come. Why does it matter where we get them from?

It has constantly been proclaimed that individuals from other nations come to study our tourism sector and analyze how we have been able to carve a niche in this sector in such a short period of time. Why? It is not because these nations are lazy. They are simply practical. They have us here as a working model, willing to share information about our success that they may adopt. Why can we not and why should we not do the same thing with these other nations? These goals simply tell us what areas we should target to improve the standard of living at home so it is near to the standard of living of the more developed nations. How can that be seen as a bad thing?