To: Joe Baboon, my granola bar crunching, tree hugging, dirt worshipping hippies standing strong together, those critical thinkers who from time to time visit this place, non thinking block heads you know who you are, and the seventh generation namaste, a Hindi word meaning I honor the place in you where the universe resides the place of peace of love of truth of justice and when you are there and I am there we are one.
At first I was going to dismiss this policy of armed police in schools as simply stupid idea, but once I began to reflect on it, and dwell deeper into exactly what this action means I had to respond again. I had to go back and revisit the concept of the seventh generation (see the book Wisdom keepers) the seventh generation as taught by the Iroquois people states that one should look at the sons and daughters coming behind, them, and their sons and daughters, even to the seventh generation, then looking forward and seeing that we are all seventh generation. As a seventh generation we are stewards of the earth and we leave the world entrusted to us in a better condition than the one we receive.
How counter seventh generation thinking this placing of arm policed in school is. They are our children. They are not enemy combatants. This is not an occupational zone. It is a school. This is a deep pathological symptom, when a society views its children as enemies of the state and must be watched by arm guards, we well as might place up chain link fence guard dogs guard towers, metal detectors, steel bars in each class, this is the natural progression of this idea.

Your thinking here is kinda twisted. The police are not their against the children. They are there to protect them from outsiders.
On the other hand. When I was in school (a private school) there were students 13 years old and up bringing guns to school. not to mention other weapons.

Are these the ideas and practices that will take us to the mythical develop nation status? Are these the ideas and practices that show great leadership? I wonder what happen to the parents and the grand parents the aunts and the uncles, the cousin the immediate family and the extended family, the neighbors. This placing of armed police in schools mean that all these units that make up a society are failing, dose it not make more sense to strengthen these units. Unless we really sit down and think about are actions we will always come up with suboptimal plans? As a country and we are not alone in this we have a habit of finding the most assine policies and then we pat our selves on the back as if to say aint it great.
What is the solution, I have already hinted at it, our country like all country are made up of smaller social units, this is why critical thinking is so important, this is why they don’t teach it in school or at the university level as well, because if we thought critically we would be another country instead of celebrating are incompetence, but I digress for a moment. But families, parents grand parents, aunties uncles neighborhoods, this is where are energy should be directed, these are the units that must be brought back to working order. Here are the units where a codes of conduct (the matrix of a culture I am going to pursue this concept in future post) come from, this is where I learnt, I never needed any armed police in school, I was not perfect, nor were my class mates perfect, but we had a codes of conduct that was instilled in us by family and reinforce by the various layers of the society, but even back then you could see as society was tending towards Americanization how these practices were not being preserved.

In a perfect world this would be fine. Bring up your child...etc, etc. But in this world that apparently is not happening right now. Until we get to the point the you are talking about we will need temperary measures to sternly and effetively deal with this situation. If that means putting armed police in the schools then so be it.
But you can sit around and wait for everyone to start raising their kids properly. In the mean time the bad kids will currupt or terrify the good ones and the problem will fester.

LINCOLN:
Are the Police in the Bahamas issued with "less than lethal" alternatives, such as Pepper Spray, or Tazers? If not why not?
Here in Canada, the idea of "unarmed Police " is about 100 years out of date.
Every uniform officer here has three types of "less than lethal " weaponry to choose from BEFORE they draw their firearm. Their first line of defence is their BRAIN, followed by Pepper Spray, and the Tazer.
As for the idea that having armed Police in a school will give the students the "wrong image " is absurd. Do you really think that the kids walk the streets with their eyes closed, never having seen a cop with a side arm?
Is it too much to expect that the Police can go anywhere the Public can go with out being seen as some kind of "oddity'? The schools are apparently a hot bed of violence down there, so why the reluctance to enforce the law? Are the teen agers so soft that they can't stand the sight of a cop on patrol in their school yard? Or is the idea to make them "toe the line" at school?
I would suggest that based on what LINCOLN has said about low staffing levels, the RBPF needs a increase in manpower. Perhaps the guarding of the Ministers could be contracted out to private security services, and what about the concept of hiring civillians to do the mundane paperwork, and free up Constables for Uniform patrol duties, at the places where they are needed?
Jim Bunting. Toronto.

LINCOLN:
Are the Police in the Bahamas issued with "less than lethal" alternatives, such as Pepper Spray, or Tazers? If not why not?
Here in Canada, the idea of "unarmed Police " is about 100 years out of date.
Every uniform officer here has three types of "less than lethal " weaponry to choose from BEFORE they draw their firearm. Their first line of defence is their BRAIN, followed by Pepper Spray, and the Tazer.
As for the idea that having armed Police in a school will give the students the "wrong image " is absurd. Do you really think that the kids walk the streets with their eyes closed, never having seen a cop with a side arm?
Is it too much to expect that the Police can go anywhere the Public can go with out being seen as some kind of "oddity'? The schools are apparently a hot bed of violence down there, so why the reluctance to enforce the law? Are the teen agers so soft that they can't stand the sight of a cop on patrol in their school yard? Or is the idea to make them "toe the line" at school?
I would suggest that based on what LINCOLN has said about low staffing levels, the RBPF needs a increase in manpower. Perhaps the guarding of the Ministers could be contracted out to private security services, and what about the concept of hiring civillians to do the mundane paperwork, and free up Constables for Uniform patrol duties, at the places where they are needed?
Jim Bunting. Toronto.

As far as I know the only non lethal weapon they issue is a stick (baton). That would be a good idea for the to issue peper spray and tazers It would really help when unrully outsiders enter schools or when kids get out of hand.
The problem comes in when you face pepper spray or a tazer against a cutlass or a gun or a gang throwing stones etc.
Kids- though they won't say it infront of adults- see guns already in school. They see there classmates that bring guns as 'badder' than the police.
The police are taking a 'we are your friends approach but the evil are not fooled and the good knows better than to snitch. The longer they carry on with this campaine the worse crime will get. The police need to take a Machiovellian stand point with this countries crime problem: its better to be feared than loved.

LINCOLN:

Thanks for your reply.

A stick? That is so primative that it takes my breath away. So if the officer has only two weapons options and one of them is "deadly force" with the hand gun, no wonder people are worried about a teen being shot in a confrontation. That is cave man stupid, to equip them in such a way.

Surely the senior oficers, of the RBPF, at least know about the concept of "less than lethal" weapons? The Pepper spray that is issued here in Toronto costs about $12 CDN per can when bought is bulk. How much is a wrongfull death law suit going to cost the RBPF ? The TAZER is more expensive but still won't be as deadly as a bullet in the head or chest.

Jim Bunting Toronto.

i showed a cop my steel sticks one time, he didnt even know they existed!!
*the ones that snap out, i got a few of them*

PS. they sell them at security plus in da mall.

Give school police guns
PTA president would like to see security tightened
By JASMIN BONIMY,Guardian Staff Reporter Jasmin@nasguard.com
Parents want armed police in government-run schools to clampdown on violent behavior and beef up security, it was claimed yesterday.
Dwight Rolle, a Parents Teachers Association president, said armed officers would also give parents 'peace of mind' when their children are at school.
"In today's society you get people who consider themselves to be lawless [and] somebody has to take the law into their hands," Rolle, the C C Sweeting Junior High School PTA president, explained. "I think the police should have resources to protect themselves if they are there to protect students.
"Police drive around armed everyday," he continued. "They are armed for the benefit of our kids so that we can sit down at work knowing the environment our kids are in is totally protected.
Another parent, who wished to remain anonymous, said that having armed officers protecting children would be crucial in reducing the number of violent crimes at government-run schools.
"Last school year it seemed like violence was at an all-time high," said the parent. "Every other month it seemed like there was violence in schools. What has to be done is that officers need to be armed to prevent these things from happening."
In January a group of young men jumped the R.M. Bailey Senior High fence and started wielding cutlasses after an angry parent was thrown off the school's grounds.
In April a fight broke out at the C C Sweeting Junior High School between a male student and a teacher.
That same month a 15-year-old C V Bethel student was stabbed to death during a brawl a few yards away from the school.
"These kind of incidents make you realise that something needs to be done," said the parent.
But despite some parents wanting armed officers guarding their children, the school policing programme's coordinator, Chief Superintendent Juanita Colebrooke, told The Guardian yesterday that was not on the agenda.
"We're not going in the schools armed. That's not regular," she said. "I had a workshop with officers and spelled out that they would not be wearing firearms on the school's premises."
Chief Supt. Colebrooke argued that arming police would give students at government-run schools the wrong impression.
"We don't really want to be seen walking around the school campus like we came for action," she said. "We want to [say] to the students that we are their friends. "If they have a problem they can come to us. We don't want to be armed."
Chief Supt. Colebrooke added that officers were specifically stationed at schools to prevent violence from erupting.
"We're focused on preventing problems from happening, that's our motto," she said. "If we can prevent before something happens, that is what we're there for."
Trying to ease parents' fears, she added that unarmed officers were effectively guarding the schools. But she admitted that if a situation "got out of hand" then officers would not hesitate in calling for back-up.
"If there is a situation that is out of hand and that they cannot handle, then we can call for support from another unit that is armed," she said. "If a person comes for trouble then officers would radio in and patrol cars would respond in a matter of minutes."
According to Chief Supt. Colebrooke, the school policing programme was implemented on September 5 and it runs at 12 government high schools on the islands of New Providence, Grand Bahama, and Abaco. Ministries of National Security, Education and Social Services helped put the new initiative into action.
Armed Police in Schools



To the ever present Flipmode Squad, my Hippie comrades, the Blockheads, the Seventh Generation, and you, I say Namase; a Hindi word which means I honor the place in you where the universe resides the place of peace, justice, truth, love, and when you are there and I am there we are one.


I have found that it is necessary to revisit the origin of and argument, as these threads can diverge in such a bizarre manner. In looking at the origin posted by Abiskan Moon -Angel, the underline theory of the argument is that the introduction of police officers into the school system will reduce violence there. My position is that the violence in the school system is a symptom of the pathology of our society, and if we are to solve this situation we must look at the root cause and correct it verse treating the symptoms.


Let’s look at society, in particular let us examine the matrix of society, which is culture, in this exploration we will need some definitions. I will be drawing first on the work of the brilliant scholar Marimba Ani, a student of John H Clarke, and her seminal work Yurugu:


“Wade Nobels defines culture as {a process which gives people a general design for living and patterns for interpreting their reality}. Its ‘aspects’ he says, are ideology, ethos, and world view; its ‘factors’ are ontology, cosmology, and axiology; and its ‘manifestation’ consist of behavior, value, and attitude. “Marimba Ani continues; if we look at the phenomenon of culture, we are impressed by the following characteristics:


1. It acts to unify and to order experience, so that its members perceive organization, consistency, and system. In this respect it provides a ‘world-view’ that offers up orienting conceptions of reality.

2. It gives people group identification, as it builds on shared historical experience, creating a sense of collective cultural identity.

3. It ‘tells ‘its members ‘what to do’ thereby creating a ‘voice’ of prescriptive authority. To its members, culture re-presents values (which they themselves have created together out of shared experiences) as a systematic set of ideas and a single coherent statement.

4. It provides the basis for commitment, priority, and choice, thereby imparting direction to group development and behavior; indeed, it acts to limit the parameters of change and to pattern the behavior of its members. In this way culture helps to initiate and authorize its own creation.
5. It provides for the creation of shared symbols and meanings. It is, therefore, the primary creative force of collective consciousness.

6. For all the above reasons, it impacts on the definition of group interest and its potentially political.( pages 4-5 of Yurgu)


Armed with this definition, I am going to throw myself back into the issue of the root cause verse treatment.

I say Namase; a Hindi word which means I honor the place in you where the universe resides the place of peace, justice, truth, love, and when you are there and I am there we are one.
I
I could have sworn the word was "Namaste" from my Yoga class days but hey I could be wrong.

Give school police guns
PTA president would like to see security tightened
By JASMIN BONIMY,Guardian Staff Reporter Jasmin@nasguard.com
Parents want armed police in government-run schools to clampdown on violent behavior and beef up security, it was claimed yesterday.
Dwight Rolle, a Parents Teachers Association president, said armed officers would also give parents 'peace of mind' when their children are at school.
"In today's society you get people who consider themselves to be lawless [and] somebody has to take the law into their hands," Rolle, the C C Sweeting Junior High School PTA president, explained. "I think the police should have resources to protect themselves if they are there to protect students.
"Police drive around armed everyday," he continued. "They are armed for the benefit of our kids so that we can sit down at work knowing the environment our kids are in is totally protected.
Another parent, who wished to remain anonymous, said that having armed officers protecting children would be crucial in reducing the number of violent crimes at government-run schools.
"Last school year it seemed like violence was at an all-time high," said the parent. "Every other month it seemed like there was violence in schools. What has to be done is that officers need to be armed to prevent these things from happening."
In January a group of young men jumped the R.M. Bailey Senior High fence and started wielding cutlasses after an angry parent was thrown off the school's grounds.
In April a fight broke out at the C C Sweeting Junior High School between a male student and a teacher.
That same month a 15-year-old C V Bethel student was stabbed to death during a brawl a few yards away from the school.
"These kind of incidents make you realise that something needs to be done," said the parent.
But despite some parents wanting armed officers guarding their children, the school policing programme's coordinator, Chief Superintendent Juanita Colebrooke, told The Guardian yesterday that was not on the agenda.
"We're not going in the schools armed. That's not regular," she said. "I had a workshop with officers and spelled out that they would not be wearing firearms on the school's premises."
Chief Supt. Colebrooke argued that arming police would give students at government-run schools the wrong impression.
"We don't really want to be seen walking around the school campus like we came for action," she said. "We want to [say] to the students that we are their friends. "If they have a problem they can come to us. We don't want to be armed."
Chief Supt. Colebrooke added that officers were specifically stationed at schools to prevent violence from erupting.
"We're focused on preventing problems from happening, that's our motto," she said. "If we can prevent before something happens, that is what we're there for."
Trying to ease parents' fears, she added that unarmed officers were effectively guarding the schools. But she admitted that if a situation "got out of hand" then officers would not hesitate in calling for back-up.
"If there is a situation that is out of hand and that they cannot handle, then we can call for support from another unit that is armed," she said. "If a person comes for trouble then officers would radio in and patrol cars would respond in a matter of minutes."
According to Chief Supt. Colebrooke, the school policing programme was implemented on September 5 and it runs at 12 government high schools on the islands of New Providence, Grand Bahama, and Abaco. Ministries of National Security, Education and Social Services helped put the new initiative into action.
Originally Posted by Abiskan Moon-Angel
Give school police guns
PTA president would like to see security tightened
By JASMIN BONIMY,Guardian Staff Reporter Jasmin@nasguard.com
Parents want armed police in government-run schools to clampdown on violent behavior and beef up security, it was claimed yesterday.
Dwight Rolle, a Parents Teachers Association president, said armed officers would also give parents 'peace of mind' when their children are at school.
"In today's society you get people who consider themselves to be lawless [and] somebody has to take the law into their hands," Rolle, the C C Sweeting Junior High School PTA president, explained. "I think the police should have resources to protect themselves if they are there to protect students.
"Police drive around armed everyday," he continued. "They are armed for the benefit of our kids so that we can sit down at work knowing the environment our kids are in is totally protected.
Another parent, who wished to remain anonymous, said that having armed officers protecting children would be crucial in reducing the number of violent crimes at government-run schools.
"Last school year it seemed like violence was at an all-time high," said the parent. "Every other month it seemed like there was violence in schools. What has to be done is that officers need to be armed to prevent these things from happening."
In January a group of young men jumped the R.M. Bailey Senior High fence and started wielding cutlasses after an angry parent was thrown off the school's grounds.
In April a fight broke out at the C C Sweeting Junior High School between a male student and a teacher.
That same month a 15-year-old C V Bethel student was stabbed to death during a brawl a few yards away from the school.
"These kind of incidents make you realise that something needs to be done," said the parent.
But despite some parents wanting armed officers guarding their children, the school policing programme's coordinator, Chief Superintendent Juanita Colebrooke, told The Guardian yesterday that was not on the agenda.
"We're not going in the schools armed. That's not regular," she said. "I had a workshop with officers and spelled out that they would not be wearing firearms on the school's premises."
Chief Supt. Colebrooke argued that arming police would give students at government-run schools the wrong impression.
"We don't really want to be seen walking around the school campus like we came for action," she said. "We want to [say] to the students that we are their friends. "If they have a problem they can come to us. We don't want to be armed."
Chief Supt. Colebrooke added that officers were specifically stationed at schools to prevent violence from erupting.
"We're focused on preventing problems from happening, that's our motto," she said. "If we can prevent before something happens, that is what we're there for."
Trying to ease parents' fears, she added that unarmed officers were effectively guarding the schools. But she admitted that if a situation "got out of hand" then officers would not hesitate in calling for back-up.
"If there is a situation that is out of hand and that they cannot handle, then we can call for support from another unit that is armed," she said. "If a person comes for trouble then officers would radio in and patrol cars would respond in a matter of minutes."
According to Chief Supt. Colebrooke, the school policing programme was implemented on September 5 and it runs at 12 government high schools on the islands of New Providence, Grand Bahama, and Abaco. Ministries of National Security, Education and Social Services helped put the new initiative into action.

To The Seventh generation: Namaste.


I am gwine deal with dem raat of da problem in dem school dwoen deer and all dem chillin ackin up, das what I gwine do since masss uyall gwine to school and leave yinnar sense der.


A bit of nostalgia a going back to the root language (will go into depts. Of the root language in post on the praxis and theory of national culture, a very deep thread dealing with the restructuring of the pseudo Bahamian culture). Really we as a people must start to think, I know that’s a hard thing to do but we have to if we are going to survive. I have already covered the importance of family in the preservation of values and it passing from one generation to the next. Today as I was listening to talk radio (talk radio will be covered in the praxis and theory of national culture) I was just struck once again by the light of aware, I almost ran off the road it was so simple and yet beautiful, thus I must share it with you.


In addition to the strengthening and maintenance of the family structure, government must in act social policies that help to strengthen the social structure of the country.

One of its first policies should be the imposing of a ($500.) Five hundred dollar tax per year on each child a family has until that child reaches 18.


Second policy should be that for every altercation that a child has at school, which disrupts the class environment in such a way that the safety of those present is threatened both parents should be fined first offence $50 and each subsequent offence incremented by $25 per parent.

Thirdly each PTA `meeting that one or more parents do not attend should also be a $50 fine with a similar increments for additional fines. Thirdly all schools will be required to have a meet the parents and child day, during which time all parents will be required to meet his or her Childs teacher’s parents who don’t attend similar fines. The teacher of a student on a progressive failure tract will be fined every 30 days until that child is brought back to optimal tract. During the second month the fines will broaden to administrators until the situation is resolved.

The ministry will be responsible for maintain each school in optimal condition, with stuffiest funds, if a school is found to be lacking in any area the workers in that ministry will be fined every 30 days until the situation is corrected, then the sum total fine of the ministry will be passed onto the minister after 90 days if the situation is not corrected. If after 120 days and the school is still in the same situation then every person in that constituency 21 and older will be fined $50 per month until the situation is resolved.


What a way to get back on track, won’t have any need for police after that any where in the country.

To The Seventh generation: Namaste.


I am gwine deal with dem raat of da problem in dem school dwoen deer and all dem chillin ackin up, das what I gwine do since masss uyall gwine to school and leave yinnar sense der.


A bit of nostalgia a going back to the root language (will go into depts. Of the root language in post on the praxis and theory of national culture, a very deep thread dealing with the restructuring of the pseudo Bahamian culture). Really we as a people must start to think, I know that’s a hard thing to do but we have to if we are going to survive. I have already covered the importance of family in the preservation of values and it passing from one generation to the next. Today as I was listening to talk radio (talk radio will be covered in the praxis and theory of national culture) I was just struck once again by the light of aware, I almost ran off the road it was so simple and yet beautiful, thus I must share it with you.


In addition to the strengthening and maintenance of the family structure, government must in act social policies that help to strengthen the social structure of the country.

One of its first policies should be the imposing of a ($500.) Five hundred dollar tax per year on each child a family has until that child reaches 18.


Second policy should be that for every altercation that a child has at school, which disrupts the class environment in such a way that the safety of those present is threatened both parents should be fined first offence $50 and each subsequent offence incremented by $25 per parent.

Thirdly each PTA `meeting that one or more parents do not attend should also be a $50 fine with a similar increments for additional fines. Thirdly all schools will be required to have a meet the parents and child day, during which time all parents will be required to meet his or her Childs teacher’s parents who don’t attend similar fines. The teacher of a student on a progressive failure tract will be fined every 30 days until that child is brought back to optimal tract. During the second month the fines will broaden to administrators until the situation is resolved.

The ministry will be responsible for maintain each school in optimal condition, with stuffiest funds, if a school is found to be lacking in any area the workers in that ministry will be fined every 30 days until the situation is corrected, then the sum total fine of the ministry will be passed onto the minister after 90 days if the situation is not corrected. If after 120 days and the school is still in the same situation then every person in that constituency 21 and older will be fined $50 per month until the situation is resolved.


What a way to get back on track, won’t have any need for police after that any where in the country

To The Seventh generation: Namaste.
I am gwine deal with dem raat of da problem in dem school dwoen deer and all dem chillin ackin up, das what I gwine do since masss uyall gwine to school and leave yinnar sense der.
A bit of nostalgia a going back to the root language (will go into depts. Of the root language in post on the praxis and theory of national culture, a very deep thread dealing with the restructuring of the pseudo Bahamian culture). Really we as a people must start to think, I know that’s a hard thing to do but we have to if we are going to survive. I have already covered the importance of family in the preservation of values and it passing from one generation to the next. Today as I was listening to talk radio (talk radio will be covered in the praxis and theory of national culture) I was just struck once again by the light of aware, I almost ran off the road it was so simple and yet beautiful, thus I must share it with you.
In addition to the strengthening and maintenance of the family structure, government must in act social policies that help to strengthen the social structure of the country. One of its first policies should be the imposing of a ($500.) Five hundred dollar tax per year on each child a family has until that child reaches 18. Second policy should be that for every altercation that a child has at school, which disrupts the class environment in such a way that the safety of those present is threatened both parents should be fined first offence $50 and each subsequent offence incremented by $25 per parent. Thirdly each PTA `meeting that one or more parents do not attend should also be a $50 fine with a similar increments for additional fines. Thirdly all schools will be required to have a meet the parents and child day, during which time all parents will be required to meet his or her Childs teacher’s parents who don’t attend similar fines. The teacher of a student on a progressive failure tract will be fined every 30 days until that child is brought back to optimal tract. During the second month the fines will broaden to administrators until the situation is resolved. The ministry will be responsible for maintain each school in optimal condition, with stuffiest funds, if a school is found to be lacking in any area the workers in that ministry will be fined every 30 days until the situation is corrected, then the sum total fine of the ministry will be passed onto the minister after 90 days if the situation is not corrected. If after 120 days and the school is still in the same situation then every person in that constituency 21 and older will be fined $50 per month until the situation is resolved.
What a way to get back on track, won’t have any need for police after that any where in the country

Or we could just take the bad kids, and parents out and shoot them! (Mao would have liked that - might have even done it!) That would solve the problem, but that would be as senseless as the "fining" proposal.:)

To The Seventh generation: Namaste.
I am gwine deal with dem raat of da problem in dem school dwoen deer and all dem chillin ackin up, das what I gwine do since masss uyall gwine to school and leave yinnar sense der.
A bit of nostalgia a going back to the root language (will go into depts. Of the root language in post on the praxis and theory of national culture, a very deep thread dealing with the restructuring of the pseudo Bahamian culture). Really we as a people must start to think, I know that’s a hard thing to do but we have to if we are going to survive. I have already covered the importance of family in the preservation of values and it passing from one generation to the next. Today as I was listening to talk radio (talk radio will be covered in the praxis and theory of national culture) I was just struck once again by the light of aware, I almost ran off the road it was so simple and yet beautiful, thus I must share it with you.
In addition to the strengthening and maintenance of the family structure, government must in act social policies that help to strengthen the social structure of the country. One of its first policies should be the imposing of a ($500.) Five hundred dollar tax per year on each child a family has until that child reaches 18. Second policy should be that for every altercation that a child has at school, which disrupts the class environment in such a way that the safety of those present is threatened both parents should be fined first offence $50 and each subsequent offence incremented by $25 per parent. Thirdly each PTA `meeting that one or more parents do not attend should also be a $50 fine with a similar increments for additional fines. Thirdly all schools will be required to have a meet the parents and child day, during which time all parents will be required to meet his or her Childs teacher’s parents who don’t attend similar fines. The teacher of a student on a progressive failure tract will be fined every 30 days until that child is brought back to optimal tract. During the second month the fines will broaden to administrators until the situation is resolved. The ministry will be responsible for maintain each school in optimal condition, with stuffiest funds, if a school is found to be lacking in any area the workers in that ministry will be fined every 30 days until the situation is corrected, then the sum total fine of the ministry will be passed onto the minister after 90 days if the situation is not corrected. If after 120 days and the school is still in the same situation then every person in that constituency 21 and older will be fined $50 per month until the situation is resolved.
What a way to get back on track, won’t have any need for police after that any where in the country


I love reading what you have to say but could you do me a small favor and put a line of space between your paragraphs. Your posts are usually long and cause the lines are so close together I get mixed up! Thanks.:heartbeat

I love reading what you have to say but could you do me a small favor and put a line of space between your paragraphs. Your posts are usually long and cause the lines are so close together I get mixed up! Thanks.:heartbeat

Thank you Lynette, I will do that.

Is this a question of the police becoming security guards? What do the police do all day when the kids are in the class rooms?

Or we could just take the bad kids, and parents out and shoot them! (Mao would have liked that - might have even done it!) That would solve the problem, but that would be as senseless as the "fining" proposal.:)



CG I do believe you need to read again, as a matter of fact some of the policies that i am out lining are at work in australia, in terms of an education tax for school and in tennessee there is currently being proposed fines and even jail time for parents of children who have excessive absences. Thinking is such an under utilize skill

Now this is the current question...
how long will the police be stationed at school?
Should they have guns?
And should they use them if it becomes necessary?