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Abiskan Moon-Angel
10-05-05, - 01:27 PM
We're being terrorized

Sub-head: Haitian teen gangs make our lives hell

By Tanya Smith-Cartwright,Associate Editor

tcartwright@nasguard.com

Yamacraw residents are up in arms over the police's failure to crack down on illegal Haitian teenage gangs terrorizing the area.

A local who gave his name as Russell, said the noise at night coming from the nearby Haitian village is, "enough to take a grown man's nerve".

"Those fellows smoke dope under that tree and they are heard to be plotting to get groups together from the other villages and take over this place," he said. "The government better not sleep on these people. They are serious, dangerous and violent young men."

Russell, who was too afraid to give his full name, said numerous complaints have been made to police and immigration authorities but "nothing has happened".

He said the residents of Yamacraw can only assume the Immigration Department and police are too afraid to make a raid on the village as "everyone in this part of the island knows about its location."

Russell added in an exclusive interview that he believed most people in the villagers were illegal immigrants and should be deported.

A Guardian news team visited the area and when we asked Haitian residents about the "hell raising", they simply walked away.

A wall sealing off the shacks from other residential homes was heavily sprayed with gangland graffiti. One resident there, Rames, dismissed the allegations.

"Some people just don't like Haitians and that's why they say we making trouble," he said. "We don't want to take over no government, we only want to come over here and work and make money. We only want some money. I've been here for 11 years and I don't want to take over The Bahamas."

In August of this year, the Guardian did a three-day series of Abaco's immigration problems. There are between 5,000 to 8,000 Haitians living on the island while the figure nation-wide could exceed 50,000.

Haitian Ambassador Louis Joseph admitted to the that Guardian he had visited that village but said it was with Ministry of Health's Parliamentary Secretary, Ron Pinder.

"I visited the area with Ron Pinder," added Ambassador Joseph. "But we only looked at complaints about garbage. We raised questions with the people on the garbage issues but nothing else. We did not question them about other allegations."

Parliamentary Secretary, Ron Pinder, said the status of Haitians living in the village had to be addressed.

"Those people are angry with the system because we have moved slowly in regularizing these stateless people here who are born to Haitian parents," he added. "Most of them have never even been to Haiti."

Mr. Pinder also said that the government is staying clear of calling those type of communities "Haitian villages". He added that the majority of people who live there are either Bahamians of Haitian parentage or Haitians who have received Bahamian Residency status.

By press time, a call to Immigration Director, Vernon Burrows was not returned.

Abiskan Moon-Angel
10-05-05, - 01:32 PM
i just wonder how people come to the conclusion as to who is illegal and who is not? how can people categorically say that a settlement/area has no legal immigrants, when they have not seen the appropriate documentation?:uh:

garnelleo
10-05-05, - 02:56 PM
i just wonder how people come to the conclusion as to who is illegal and who is not? how can people categorically say that a settlement/area has no legal immigrants, when they have not seen the appropriate documentation?:uh:

they dont they assume. People love to assume, "hey that guy is a Haitian, therefore, he is illegal and weeds yards" ut I'll say this although the persons born here arent, most who are not born here are.
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DEADMAN
10-06-05, - 01:14 PM
WHO IS THE "MP FOR YAMACRAW[B]?

THE PEOPLE NEED TO MAKE A DEMANDS TO THERE MP OR BETTER PM . AND LET THEM KNOW TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM OR WE WILL....THATS WHY YOU VOTE GOVERMENT,NOT FOR PARTY.BUT WHO WILL HELP THE AREA.

AND IF THE POLICE CHEIF AND IMM. OFFICES WILL NOT DO ANYTHING ASK FOR THERE REMOVAL FROM OFFICE...THESE JOBS ARE CREATED TO HELP THE
PEOPLE NOT TO MAKE THESE GUYS RICH & POWERFUL.
[B]TAKE CHARGE OF YOUR HOME

***LIFT UP YOUR HEADS*** OR DID YOU PEEPS FORGET THIS:bye:

stagalee_abaco
10-08-05, - 04:25 PM
AND IF THE POLICE CHEIF AND IMM. OFFICES WILL NOT DO ANYTHING ASK FOR THERE REMOVAL FROM OFFICE...THESE JOBS ARE CREATED TO HELP THE
PEOPLE NOT TO MAKE THESE GUYS RICH & POWERFUL.
TAKE CHARGE OF YOUR HOME

Ask for their removal??? These jobs are created so that gov't peeps can help themselves by giving their buddies jobs so that they can line their pockets with our tax dollars and foreign development kickbacks.

neville Wisdumb spent 1Mil on bleachers...bleachers really cost that much? I guess if you don't even offer the job to bahamians (or let the ministry of work do it's job and get bleachers and maybe have bahamians erect them) and have to fly foreigners in and put them up in hotels ...because there aren't bahamians capable of putting up bleachers?? I guess wisdumb knew that education sux so we couldn't possibly be smart enough to erect bleachers or was it really that the only way for him to get some of the cash himself was to use a foreign co so he could get his kickback.
BEC and Batelco only work on weekends at double time the rest of the week they can be seen sleeping in the vehicles while they are running so the ac is piping and burning up our tax dollars in the form of gasoline at $4/gallon. There are current posts here right now about the crappy DSL service and all batelco can do is sing milli vanilli and blame it on the rain? I thought all the lines were on those god aweful / icons of our 3rd world existence telephone poles . . . how does the water get up there? But this should all end with that value added service thing - they won't even have to work to get paid now - another great way for our politicians to reward themselves and abuse our tax dollars.

people getting robbed and raped daily in nas and you don't hear about it anymore because it's so common that it's no big deal.
Ask for their removal?
People in Bimini are cut off from public land by a foreigner that employees mexicans? I guess Bimini will soon have a mexican population like nassau developed a chinese and indian population after the crystal palace?

People in Abaco watch the government give away crown land and are laughed at when they object - the gov't gave one of their own a job as VP of the development co and he won't meet with the locals that are objecting because they are to vocal and adamant with their objections? Those people are pissed what do you expect? Publicly stating that you won't meet with them only makes them even more vocal.
Teen pregnancy and aids are rampant in exuma.
Government subsidized water and some people still wonder why water and sewerage doesn't make any money.
reearth for the first time got the gov't to let bahamians read the eia on the LNG and they gave bahamians 1 week by appointment to read a document that makes the bible look like a quick read (thanks for nothing)
I don't think I need to say anything about the injustice that the gov't dumps on our kids and call it education. You can pick from a number of issues there.
Ask for their removal?
I can't stop saying that. . .ask for their removal I SAID IT AGAIN!!! it's been done the law said sid stubbs should have been removed but he making whatever 100K or more MP's make was still bankrupt and still not removed. I really don't like him his fat ARS was sitting in sappodilly's a month ago hitting on my wife smoking torpedo cuban cigars - how can you be broke and afford those things? how can you be broke and be so overweight?
The president of COB still hasn't stepped down??

The recent article about mount moriah mp shutting down the constituent office in the area and running it out of his own law firm? He's not supposed to be working for anyone but the gov't right now (another law the gov't doesn't care to enforce on it's own) so it's actually kinda a smart idea to do this to cover up the fact that he's an MP that is still privately employed although it's against the law. This isn't my law firm it's my constituentcy office (my spelling sux sorry peeps)

But i can spell ASK FOR THEIR REMOVAL

AHH if it was only that easy

RockWell
10-09-05, - 04:35 PM
they dont they assume. People love to assume, "hey that guy is a Haitian, therefore, he is illegal and weeds yards" ut I'll say this although the persons born here arent, most who are not born here are.
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Well granny I live in the area & can tell you they are illegal.Why do I say this,They are living on the land illegally,carry out numerous illegal activities such as robberies,drug running and the like.As to the Insp. I dn't quite understand his stand in the papers,because he is normally well informed about what happens in his backyard ( maybe it's cause he was off sick for so long).But this smoke has fire in it.

Tafadhali
10-09-05, - 05:09 PM
Well granny I live in the area & can tell you they are illegal.Why do I say this,They are living on the land illegally,carry out numerous illegal activities such as robberies,drug running and the like.As to the Insp. I dn't quite understand his stand in the papers,because he is normally well informed about what happens in his backyard ( maybe it's cause he was off sick for so long).But this smoke has fire in it.

yamacraw was such a nice area what happened for the area to go down like that?

Rory
10-09-05, - 06:03 PM
Cops know where all these areas are, and that includes illegal bahamian communities, or communities that thier main cause of existance is partaking in illegal activities, one that comes to mind is Okra Hilll .. they need a bulldozer and .. they can sell the coke to pay that darling lady her cool million! :-0

RockWell
10-14-05, - 12:22 PM
yamacraw was such a nice area what happened for the area to go down like that?
Tia it's more like Kool Acres where they reside,but we get the aftershock.

pebbles
10-25-05, - 05:42 PM
i just wonder how people come to the conclusion as to who is illegal and who is not? how can people categorically say that a settlement/area has no legal immigrants, when they have not seen the appropriate documentation?:uh:

cus if dey ein born here an do not possess any legal documents then then illegal

pebbles
10-25-05, - 05:57 PM
what the government need to do is get serious about the illegal haitians and capture then on their way to work in their shacks man, woman and children round up all of then and send them back to their land of origin.
then clear doen the land so that bahamians and legals immigrant can build their homes and live in harmony. this illegal immigrant situation is really out of hand that includes all illegal immigrants. most of the gangs are form by the stateless illegal immigrants children who cannot travel. they are upset with society

canewry
10-25-05, - 07:22 PM
what the government need to do is get serious about the illegal haitians and capture then on their way to work in their shacks man, woman and children round up all of then and send them back to their land of origin.
then clear doen the land so that bahamians and legals immigrant can build their homes and live in harmony. this illegal immigrant situation is really out of hand that includes all illegal immigrants. most of the gangs are form by the stateless illegal immigrants children who cannot travel. they are upset with society

what the government needs to do is lock up Bahamians who hire Haitians...the sentence should be 2 years mandatory....that will solve a lot of problems.

Rory
10-25-05, - 08:51 PM
what the government needs to do is lock up Bahamians who hire Haitians...the sentence should be 2 years mandatory....that will solve a lot of problems.


dont stop there, lock up the ones that hire americans and canadians also.

canewry
10-25-05, - 09:29 PM
dont stop there, lock up the ones that hire americans and canadians also.

LOL...you are right...
But, I am sure Mr. Rood, would just put us on some other list of his...