i fail to see your point. a haitian that LEGALLY migrated to the bahamas can have as many children as they want and those children are now bahamian, who will procede to have as many BAHAMIAN childred as they see fit. please keeep in mind this is the same way you got to the bahamas. at some point someone in your family immigrated, possibly illegally.
BOY HOW QUICKLY WE FORGET.

Ding and the sparks flew.

Actually! I really did not compare haitians and bahamians. If you took a second, put aside your preconcieved notions and numerous assumptions you would see this. I did say that i was focusing on the positive. I dont know whether it is a superiority or inferiority complex, but you need to get that in check.
In reply to your previous comments. It really doesnt matter why or where you got certain positive qualities. The fact is you have them, period.

Very good come back. I think the essay was very good.
Some how I did not see anything about a poor Bahamian work ethic. I did see something about Hatians doing jobs Bahamians did not want to do.
In saying we owe a lot to the backs of Hatians, does not say we don't owe a lot to the backs of Bahamians or others.

The Negotiator...my two cents.

I cant believe we still here. All sides of this argument of valid points. Haitians work hard. Yes they do. Bahamians also work hard. Who is the busier bee depends on which side of the fence you are standing on, and it cannot be said conclusively that either nationality works harder. I dont think the author was saying Bahamians are lazy, and because he mentions that haitians are hard workers, it should not be deduced that this is what he meant. It is a fact however, they (Haitians) will take on jobs Bahamians are less willing to take. Sign of desperation I guess. Doesnt necessarily mean they have greater work ethics, but it does say something about Bahamians not wanting to 'stoop' to a particular level.

I thought we decided on another thread that this immigration is a indeed a serious one. But why are we still talking about it? The Government needs to come up with a properly, regulated immigration plan/policy. A framework that deals efficiently with immigration. That policy MUST however adhere to the Bahamas' international obligations with regards to refugees/asylum seekers (which is currently does not). The entire system needs an overhaul. Regulations must be enforced. But as i see it - we as Bahamians cannot do anything, because even though we 'supposedly' live in a democratic society, our leaders do not listen to us. so there. next topic please. :cheers:

Ding and the sparks flew.
It would be someone like you who agreed with him :sarcastic .Shows how smart y'all really are. ps: Just to make sure, I let my 10 yr old who's just in grade five read my post & she understoood exactly what I was trying to say. :bored:

I thought we decided on another thread that this immigration is a indeed a serious one. But why are we still talking about it? The Government needs to come up with a properly, regulated immigration plan/policy. A framework that deals efficiently with immigration. That policy MUST however adhere to the Bahamas' international obligations with regards to refugees/asylum seekers (which is currently does not). The entire system needs an overhaul. Regulations must be enforced. But as i see it - we as Bahamians cannot do anything, because even though we 'supposedly' live in a democratic society, our leaders do not listen to us. so there. next topic please. :cheers:


Such a plan or policy is just wishful thinking. I am sorry to tell you it doesnt exist. As long as things are tuff people will continue to migrate by any means necessary.

It would be someone like you who agreed with him :sarcastic .Shows how smart y'all really are. ps: Just to make sure, I let my 10 yr old who's just in grade five read my post & she understoood exactly what I was trying to say. :bored:


I am sorry but I really have to address this cuase i dont know who u tryin to play, maybe ur child understood it cuase both of u think the same way LIKE A 10 yr old CHILD:

Can your statement:

Hey Yorrick let me relate a story to y'all told to me by an ol white farmer.He said in hindsight he feels partially responsible for the mess we are in,because 25 years ago he hired & got papers for a Haitian who then brought in his wife & proceeded to have TEN CHILDREN,who went on to do the same You do the math, say if we had 100 Bahamians who did this in the early 70's & that's not even counting illegals.

be taken any other way than the way it was interpreted, perhaps u should take a writing class.

interpratation: back in the 70's bahamians brought in Haitians LEGALLY, those LEGAL haitians brought in their wives LEGALLY. these 2 LEGAL haitians hatch up a bunch of children, who my dear friend are legal as well. the mass amount of bahamians that did this contributed to the problem the bahamas is having today.

I WILL STATE AGAIN I FAIL TO SEE WHAT YOUR POINT IS BECUASE AFTER THE FIRST GENERATION BEGINS BAHAMIAN LINEAGE.

also if you are trying to say those bunch of children born in the bahamas brought in more haitians legally i have to say that idea is very false. children born in the bahamas from haitian parents have strong ties to the bahamas and very rarely would they bring someone to the bahamas legally. ie a spouse. there is no need to bring mum, dad, bro, sis cuase they already there.

also ur statement is even more pointless becuase this would be a line of LEGAL immigration. you cant do a lamb blasted thing about LEGAL immigration.

but n e way perhaps it would be best for u to explain what you meant instead of beatin roun the bush as usual. I hope ur 10 yr old could comprehend this cuase i doubt you will be able to

to yorrik- YAWN

I am sorry but I really have to address this cuase i dont know who u tryin to play, maybe ur child understood it cuase both of u think the same way LIKE A 10 yr old CHILD:
Can your statement:
Hey Yorrick let me relate a story to y'all told to me by an ol white farmer.He said in hindsight he feels partially responsible for the mess we are in,because 25 years ago he hired & got papers for a Haitian who then brought in his wife & proceeded to have TEN CHILDREN,who went on to do the same You do the math, say if we had 100 Bahamians who did this in the early 70's & that's not even counting illegals.
be taken any other way than the way it was interpreted, perhaps u should take a writing class.
interpratation: back in the 70's bahamians brought in Haitians LEGALLY, those LEGAL haitians brought in their wives LEGALLY. these 2 LEGAL haitians hatch up a bunch of children, who my dear friend are legal as well. the mass amount of bahamians that did this contributed to the problem the bahamas is having today.
I WILL STATE AGAIN I FAIL TO SEE WHAT YOUR POINT IS BECUASE AFTER THE FIRST GENERATION BEGINS BAHAMIAN LINEAGE.
also if you are trying to say those bunch of children born in the bahamas brought in more haitians legally i have to say that idea is very false. children born in the bahamas from haitian parents have strong ties to the bahamas and very rarely would they bring someone to the bahamas legally. ie a spouse. there is no need to bring mum, dad, bro, sis cuase they already there.
also ur statement is even more pointless becuase this would be a line of LEGAL immigration. you cant do a lamb blasted thing about LEGAL immigration.
but n e way perhaps it would be best for u to explain what you meant instead of beatin roun the bush as usual. I hope ur 10 yr old could comprehend this cuase i doubt you will be able to
to yorrik- YAWN
Boi I tell ya!Can you say Issues.FYI: I never said that he entered legally & a work permitt dn't make you a citizen of a Country. :bored:

Good points (insert sarcasm here), except for a few unfair comparisons between Bahamians and Haitians.

Anyone who comes from an environment where they are starving, hungry and dying will no doubt display a work ethic similar to what we presently see in Haitians. Don't distort the facts and out of a jaded view put them on a pedestal while demeaning the Bahamian work ethic. Anyone who risks their life to get to a place and then find work there, absolutely will make sure that they keep their job by any and all means necessary. The horrors that they have seen and escaped from are the motivating factors for their diligence - Thus the disparity in the "value" of a job to a Bahamian and a Haitian.

Your view of their family life is also very blurred. Take into account the fact that many Bahamian households live "first-world" lifestyles where both parents (or the primary parent) work(s) and the children have Playstation, Xbox, Cable TV, Satellite TV or the internet as distractions and you can see why the Bahamian family structure differs so greatly. Some of the Haitian mothers that you see walking their kids to school do not have work permits, so their primary (and only) job is to take care of their children. How can you compare that mother to a Bahamian one who works from 8 to 5 (or worse yet, night shifts)? Of course, the Bahamian way of life affects our children academically as well. With younger, single Bahamian mothers who work to feed their families, sometimes without help and assistance from the father, many of our kids do not get the support or motivation to do well in school. Either there is little time for parental guidance or the Bahamian parent supplements their guidance with giving the child whatever he/she wants without a proper system of earning this privilege.

You say that because of Haitians "positive qualities like strong work ethic have been assimilated into our society". Take this outright lie and burn it a thousand times (repeat as necesary). Listen and listen well: Hardship is the primary motivating factor behind ANY immigrant. Don’t you dare to speak of the citizens of this Bahamaland in a negative way simply because our hands are "soft" and we have become used to an easier way of life. You even dare to approve of the trend of Bahamian employers keeping wages low. The price of living in the Bahamas, not to mention the world, is only going up. Do you expect Bahamians to suck it up and work for little or nothing? One of the primary reasons why you can find mostly immigrants on many construction jobs or doing other instances of menial labour is because they will work for less than the market value. Yet you rationalize that they just do this because they are not afraid of hard work. If the employers would do their part and pay sensible wages, then the trend of employment will change drastically.

You obviously did not look at the entire picture and made absolutely ridiculous accusations against Bahamians. Your social analysis is greatly flawed and is glaringly tilted towards the Haitians without taking their absolute need to "survive" into consideration. Never mind though, this illogical way of thinking has become quite prevalent in our society, where Bahamians do not stand up for their own and are willing to accept that "foreign" is better somehow, so I understand why you and many others believe this nonsense and buy into the inherent politically-correct sympathizing. Get a backbone and support your country and your people!

It is up to us to keep The Bahamas Bahamian. We may have our flaws, but we should NEVER put any other group or country before our own, or diminish our own for the sake of others. Never.

Yes yorick I agree with any and everything you say on this subject matter
The young sap must have foregotten that had it not been for our Bahamian work ethic our granddaddies would not have been called to work on the contract in s. florida and built it up to what it is now. People does forget. We are Bahamian: Surviviors. Helping others got us in this sh!t were in right now.
anything illegal should not be applauded, it is wrong. It amazes me how many people just go along and accept nonsense like it's okay- all the while downgrading the Bahamas and its good citizens all in the process.
keep the Bahamas Bahamian! :bahamas:

Why is it that we choose to break down and degrade our own people for the sake of another group (many entering illegally)? This has become a scary trend on this board!

some may say I attack but whatever the case, not ever have I been on this side of the Bahamian immigration equation, I am on the side of the Bahamas- sympathizers cannot have it both ways (bahamaboy and others)

does the point in bold justify the actual hatred sometimes associated with illegal immigrants though? Germany also belonged to the Germans! uh-oh! :hammer:

oh just shut up osama-hep-haiti!

oh just shut up osama-hep-haiti!

:eek:

Hey we all need to stop fighting this situation down, I am presently living in Marsh Harbour Abaco and have a first hand experience of the Mudd, Peas and other shanty towns communities here in abaco. We need to muster our energies and assist the government with how to solve this issue. These people are humans, living creatures and they are here and are not going anywhere. So if such is the case we need to do whats best for us and them here in the Bahamas so that we, our children and generations of Bahamians to come would be able to live happily, comfortably in our homeland.

Hey we all need to stop fighting this situation down, I am presently living in Marsh Harbour Abaco and have a first hand experience of the Mudd, Peas and other shanty towns communities here in abaco. We need to muster our energies and assist the government with how to solve this issue. These people are humans, living creatures and they are here and are not going anywhere. So if such is the case we need to do whats best for us and them here in the Bahamas so that we, our children and generations of Bahamians to come would be able to live happily, comfortably in our homeland.

so what are you saying? because you said nothing at all

It would be someone like you who agreed with him :sarcastic .Shows how smart y'all really are. ps: Just to make sure, I let my 10 yr old who's just in grade five read my post & she understoood exactly what I was trying to say. :bored:



HMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!


She sure is no rocket scientist

She sure is no rocket scientist
Well at least she knows the difference between a man and a woman.And if you want to bet money on the education part,based on what you have said about your daughter on this board I'll take my 10yr old any day. :board2: