View Full Version : National Heroes......Can we name them ALL???
canewry 10-17-05, - 12:16 PM u mussie bean eavesdropping on one convo me and my bro had.
I was like, a real hero was Woodes Rogers, (although he wasnt Bahamian), he got rid of dem pirates, and helped restored legit business back in the colony.
Imagine if someone could swoop down in the bahamas tomorow and get rid of most of the criminals/problems.
Were anyone Bahamian then...
Rodgers definately had to have papers in order to be royal govenors..
He was a citizen of the Bahamas....
gian_18778 10-17-05, - 08:03 PM u mussie bean eavesdropping on one convo me and my bro had.
I was like, a real hero was Woodes Rogers, (although he wasnt Bahamian), he got rid of dem pirates, and helped restored legit business back in the colony.
Imagine if someone could swoop down in the bahamas tomorow and get rid of most of the criminals/problems.
He may have gotten rid of the Pirates, but PIRACY is the most accepted form of business constitution in the Bahamas today. Legit businesses are few and far between.
gian_18778 10-17-05, - 08:29 PM Why don't we ever celebrate Arawak Day or Taino Day or Lucaya Day? (Outside of a hotel atmosphere, thank you:cheers: .) How about celebrating ALL of our various cultures?
Greek Orthodox
African
Caribbean
Scottish
English
Bahamian
Christian
Muslim
Rastafari
... instead of Guy Fawkes Day, let's rename 5 November BAHAMA DAY!
No problem w/ re-naming Guy Fawkes to Baha day, but the point is to put more emphasis on celebrating OUR own people. Yeah I know that no one's perfect but you CAN NOT discredit their contribution to the Economical, and Sociological development to this country.
At least we have the internet, and up-to-date technology to make our voices heard. Compare the Bahamas to the rest of the Caribbean. Bahamians need to get off our lil islands and try migrating to other Caribbean islands, hell, try living on other Caribbean islands then talk to me! We take too many things for granted here, andI've been saying it for years now. The state that this country is in right now has to do w/ a lot of people. Yes I know the Spanish, British, Dutch, or whoever else played a part but what about the BAHAMIANS???? We been taught about Chistopher Colombus in our schools for over 30yrs now. Where is the class lesson on Sir Milo Butler?? Stafford Sands??? Lynden Pindling??? Black Tuesday???? The Fabulous 6????? Where is that???
LOST!!!!!
Time to give back to our own people, I'm tired of seeing people get acolade when their DEAD and rotting under dirt!!
:mad:
canewry 10-18-05, - 05:09 PM No problem w/ re-naming Guy Fawkes to Baha day, but the point is to put more emphasis on celebrating OUR own people. Yeah I know that no one's perfect but you CAN NOT discredit their contribution to the Economical, and Sociological development to this country.
At least we have the internet, and up-to-date technology to make our voices heard. Compare the Bahamas to the rest of the Caribbean. Bahamians need to get off our lil islands and try migrating to other Caribbean islands, hell, try living on other Caribbean islands then talk to me! We take too many things for granted here, andI've been saying it for years now. The state that this country is in right now has to do w/ a lot of people. Yes I know the Spanish, British, Dutch, or whoever else played a part but what about the BAHAMIANS???? We been taught about Chistopher Colombus in our schools for over 30yrs now. Where is the class lesson on Sir Milo Butler?? Stafford Sands??? Lynden Pindling??? Black Tuesday???? The Fabulous 6????? Where is that???
LOST!!!!!
Time to give back to our own people, I'm tired of seeing people get acolade when their DEAD and rotting under dirt!!
:mad:
Fabulous 6???
gian_18778 10-18-05, - 08:46 PM Fabulous 6???
Exactly!!!!
Even my knowledge about it is not as profound, but it had to deal w/ the men who were instrumental in forming the PLP or something along those lines, can not fully remembered what I heard, but they called themselves the Fabulous 6.
islandgyal 10-18-05, - 09:02 PM ahem. pretty sure that doris johnson was one of the original 6 :bye: ...
chancellor 10-19-05, - 01:25 AM No problem w/ re-naming Guy Fawkes to Baha day, but the point is to put more emphasis on celebrating OUR own people. Yeah I know that no one's perfect but you CAN NOT discredit their contribution to the Economical, and Sociological development to this country.
At least we have the internet, and up-to-date technology to make our voices heard. Compare the Bahamas to the rest of the Caribbean. Bahamians need to get off our lil islands and try migrating to other Caribbean islands, hell, try living on other Caribbean islands then talk to me! We take too many things for granted here, andI've been saying it for years now. The state that this country is in right now has to do w/ a lot of people. Yes I know the Spanish, British, Dutch, or whoever else played a part but what about the BAHAMIANS???? We been taught about Chistopher Colombus in our schools for over 30yrs now. Where is the class lesson on Sir Milo Butler?? Stafford Sands??? Lynden Pindling??? Black Tuesday???? The Fabulous 6????? Where is that???
LOST!!!!!
Time to give back to our own people, I'm tired of seeing people get acolade when their DEAD and rotting under dirt!!
:mad:
Of course we should put emphasis (if there were any at all) on Bahamians who have made contributions towards what we have today. However, dont get carried away as to forget the others or erase other history in the sake of recognizing our own. I remember my history teacher. She not only taught us the whole columbus, woodes rodges stuff. But she also taught us the modern Bahamian history from 1800s to Now, and that was in this day and age. Sometimes its not really the teacher, its the student who dosent bother to read the book or listen in the first place. If we want to go anywhere or simply understand our way of life and culture we must learn all of it and not a dominating part of it. To do so would confuse and distort our future, as future generations are already in the process of getting messed up as we speak. (well type but you know what I mean)
canewry 10-19-05, - 05:43 PM Exactly!!!!
Even my knowledge about it is not as profound, but it had to deal w/ the men who were instrumental in forming the PLP or something along those lines, can not fully remembered what I heard, but they called themselves the Fabulous 6.
Amusingly, most of the men who established the PLP were conchie joes and black conchie joes, black people joined it after a while...
and I am still not aware of a Fabulous 6....
gian_18778 10-19-05, - 07:47 PM Of course we should put emphasis (if there were any at all) on Bahamians who have made contributions towards what we have today. However, dont get carried away as to forget the others or erase other history in the sake of recognizing our own. I remember my history teacher. She not only taught us the whole columbus, woodes rodges stuff. But she also taught us the modern Bahamian history from 1800s to Now, and that was in this day and age. Sometimes its not really the teacher, its the student who dosent bother to read the book or listen in the first place. If we want to go anywhere or simply understand our way of life and culture we must learn all of it and not a dominating part of it. To do so would confuse and distort our future, as future generations are already in the process of getting messed up as we speak. (well type but you know what I mean)
Clearly, contemporary Bahamian History has been absent from our schools for decades now, and the one or two history teachers who take the time to deliver Bahamian history are far and few between to make an effective impact on the educational system. If this was not a big problem, then why has it made national airwaves throughout the length and breathe of this country? It's a serious matter. Not getting *carried away* And I'll tell you this, more people know about Woods Rodgers, and Boot-legging, and the merchant ships, and pirates and whatever else have you that occurred in the 14th,15th, 16th century about the Bahamas, which is important, however, as equally important is mordern Bahamian History, which hardly anyone knows!!
gian_18778 10-19-05, - 07:50 PM Amusingly, most of the men who established the PLP were conchie joes and black conchie joes, black people joined it after a while...
and I am still not aware of a Fabulous 6....
Are you serious??? Conchie Joes in the PLP's initial formation?????????? Do you know why the PLP was even formed?????
I think you have to do some revision on that my friend.
canewry 10-20-05, - 08:16 PM Are you serious??? Conchie Joes in the PLP's initial formation?????????? Do you know why the PLP was even formed?????
I think you have to do some revision on that my friend.
actually, you may be surprise if you looked through the history books...the PLP was formed as an alternative to the Bay Street Boys... Henry Taylor, conchie joe, cyril Stevenson, black conchie joe and others formed the PLP...thats a fact...If one would go through the entire list, you would find that the majority of them may could have passed for white in todays Bahamas...
Bahamians just need to do some research on what is what, and perhaps, then we can stop being racist and accept one for just being Bahamian...
canewry 10-20-05, - 08:24 PM actually, you may be surprise if you looked through the history books...the PLP was formed as an alternative to the Bay Street Boys... Henry Taylor, conchie joe, cyril Stevenson, black conchie joe and others formed the PLP...thats a fact...If one would go through the entire list, you would find that the majority of them may could have passed for white in todays Bahamas...
Bahamians just need to do some research on what is what, and perhaps, then we can stop being racist and accept one for just being Bahamian...
just for entertainment I looked for an excerpt form Henry Taylors book:
"Henry Taylor's "My Political Memoirs" credited three men with the founding of the Party: William Cartwright, Cyril Stevenson and Henry Taylor. Six men were initially drafted: John S. Carey, Felix Russell, Urban Knowles, Holly Brown, Paul Farrington and Clement Pinder."
Note, that William Cartwirght, Cyril Stevenson and Henry Taylor were all conchie joes to an extent...In mordern term, we would call them either conchie joes, black conchie joe or Khaki...all of them at one time or the other may have portrayed themselves as being white...
I would be more than happy to furnish you with more PLP history...but it would be easier for you to get Sir Henry Taylors book and look at the black and white pictures he has there....you would be pleasantly surprised, and grateful...
canewry 10-20-05, - 08:26 PM Are you serious??? Conchie Joes in the PLP's initial formation?????????? Do you know why the PLP was even formed?????
I think you have to do some revision on that my friend.
And by the way, you still have not told me who are these fabulous six...and how they came about? Morethanlikely the PLP rewriting history again!!
canewry 10-20-05, - 09:22 PM And by the way, you still have not told me who are these fabulous six...and how they came about? Morethanlikely the PLP rewriting history again!!
Oh Gian...I found out who were the fabulous six...
They were the six persons in the PLP who won seats on July 10th in the 1956 general elections...I shall work on getting their names...
Yet still, I did not know they were dubbed fabulous six...oh well..
androsann 10-20-05, - 10:26 PM The six PLP's who won seats in the 1956 election were Lynden Pindling, Cyril Stevenson, Clarence Bain, Milo Butler, Sammy Isaacs and Randol Fawkes, so I guess they are the fabulous 6
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