hmmm.. to my knowledge you will not find a specific 'law' saying we are a christian nation. afterall, if it were a law, how could we ensure freedom of (other religions)??? this is where people confuse things. the preamble of the bahams constitution affirms that we are a country built on christian principles...thats fundamentally different from being a christian nation.
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:biggie:Hmmmmmmmmmmmm! So it's only the last 32 yrs aye?



Well, since MAJORITY rule. We assembled to STOP the oppression of our people, but now that we have our own power, we picked up where the *others* left off.

Ridiculous!

hmmm.. to my knowledge you will not find a specific 'law' saying we are a christian nation. afterall, if it were a law, how could we ensure freedom of (other religions)??? this is where people confuse things. the preamble of the bahams constitution affirms that we are a country built on christian principles...thats fundamentally different from being a christian nation.




Here's what confuses me. If we are a country *built on Christian principles*, then how are we not a Christian Nation??? That like saying that you build your house of of brick and mortar, but when it's completed, it's a wooden house??????

Here's what confuses me. If we are a country *built on Christian principles*, then how are we not a Christian Nation??? That like saying that you build your house of of brick and mortar, but when it's completed, it's a wooden house??????

As I under stand it many of Christ teachings are as Buddha's teachings. Buddha was 500 years before Christ. So would that make Christian principles??
Being a Christian principle is not necessarily a Christian Belief nor is it exclusively Christian.
Are we a sweethearting nation we sing songs of praise to sweethearting. The "Big Bamboo" "Shame and Scandal in the Family" and more.

Here's what confuses me. If we are a country *built on Christian principles*, then how are we not a Christian Nation??? That like saying that you build your house of of brick and mortar, but when it's completed, it's a wooden house??????

well lets see if i can explain it...and i concede - i might have it wrong...and if so, then someone else can put in their 2 cents. but gian, for me a nation built on *christian principles* is just that - a nation founded on the principles of christianity. we werent founded on islamic, hindu, buddhist principles (etc). through colonialisation - we were 'converted' to christianity, and the our country (as we know it today) was founded on those same principles. the majority of the population still call themselves 'christian', but we dont quite live up to the reputation of real christians. i kind of find it blasphemous to hold ourselves in such high regard given our present state of affairs! we break just about every commandment in the book, straight down to coveting our neighbour (we're big on that)...so well, how then can we be 'christian'? i dunno, maybe i have it wrong, but maybe MARICHAL can expand :)

Its not easy to call yourself a christian nation.

But in my opinion, it is better to aspire to greatness and stumble along the way than to just give up and aspire to mediocrity instead.

Thusly, I find it utterly ridiculous that people throw up the fact that Bahamians have failed in the endeavor of being a christian nation and then deduce that we might as well do away with all of our standards.

That's like saying, well...you've already broken the law by speeding you might as well kill somebody. Its not even as if anybody is arguing that these ideas are in fact beneath any dignified nation or person -- that's automatically a given. The argument, instead, is to justify stooping lowering than you already have. Such pride.

Its not easy to call yourself a christian nation.
But in my opinion, it is better to aspire to greatness and stumble along the way than to just give up and aspire to mediocrity instead.
Thusly, I find it utterly ridiculous that people throw up the fact that Bahamians have failed in the endeavor of being a christian nation and then deduce that we might as well do away with all of our standards.
That's like saying, well...you've already broken the law by speeding you might as well kill somebody. Its not even as if anybody is arguing that these ideas are in fact beneath any dignified nation or person -- that's automatically a given. The argument, instead, is to justify stooping lowering than you already have. Such pride.

I think what people are complaining about, is the fact that we spend more time defending the fact that we are a "christian nation" than actually trying to be a Christ like nation.

It is _very_ easy to call yourself a christian nation. Yet another thing entirely to actually behave that way.

By defending, do you mean to say that there is constantly an attack on the attempts of Bahamians holding themselves and nation to higher standards??

I would agree with you. This thread appears to be evidence.

Personally, I would love to do my job and do it well -- but if my boss and co-workers are constantly questioning my abilities, creating a hostile working environment its no wonder than nothing gets done.

By now everyone knows that the Russian dancers (strippers) got off and are free to do as they please. Wayne Munroe did a bang-up job of turning that case in their favor - Lawyers should be proud.

So, the question remains: Should we have cabaret clubs (strip clubs) here in The Bahamas? Is it up to the Bahamian government to govern morality, especially seeing that many of our government officials do not adhere to morals themselves?

If a grown man or woman wants to go to a private club where those of the opposite (or same) sex do their best "shaking their moneymakers" for financial gain, don't they have a right as a private citizen to enjoy this freedom of choice?


On these issues you raised.

God bless the lawyers we all need their skills..... the good,bad and ugly

You have cabaret clubs (strip clubs) already its done.... legal or illegal.

To govern morality is a forgone conclusion we do it for Casinos. We need new limits set now.

Is that not what private means no unintended partakers. This is why incest is so well kept.

Its hard to throw stones when you live in a glass house. (for the gov. officials them.)

Ok, so it is ok for us to strip in a private home, have people come in to watch, pehaps tip us well for fried fish tidbits and it is legal?
OK boys, lets get a show together for the audience.
Perhaps a new strip club will open soon for the ladies.....LOL

My wife and most likely her sisters will be frist in line and I will drop them off and pick them up. I might even go in with them and watch them have a ball. Have any of you seen how women carry on in male strip clubs??? They are wild let me tell ya.

Well, since MAJORITY rule. We assembled to STOP the oppression of our people, but now that we have our own power, we picked up where the *others* left off.
Ridiculous!

The majority is not always right. Especially when they have laws and policy that deny the rights of the minority.

I think what people are complaining about, is the fact that we spend more time defending the fact that we are a "christian nation" than actually trying to be a Christ like nation.
It is _very_ easy to call yourself a christian nation. Yet another thing entirely to actually behave that way.

Well said Joe Baboon

I say, let's just drop that title and honor, and just live. Who needs to be Christian, right?

I have been looking all over to the law that states we are a christians Nation. Just can't find it anyone know where I can find it??


It isn't a law that were a christian nation it is more of a motto.

Shane

Legalizing prostitution has never been shown to destabilize families in any of the jurisdictions that have done so, in fact the opposite seems to be true.

However, prostitution itself is a profession which lowers a person's self worth. Bahamian women already seem to have less self esteem than the women of my mother's generation and accelerating that decline just does not make sense. That being said cabaret shows are more than abundant around town yet hardly anybody goes to them, legitamizing them will most likely not change that. After all, very few Las Vegas residents actually go to strip clubs and brothels, I visited there and my cousin who was at UNLV couldn't even recommend one to me. "just kidding, really!"