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canewry
01-16-05, - 09:21 PM
You cant be serious, last time I checked The Bahamas was a free country and anyone can display whatever they want on their personal property as they so see fit. This is your country so why do you feel inferior to any other national? There is a saying dont hate, do better! So I challege you or anyone else who feels that way, take some action and open your own business, and maybe you to can hire those so said people.

well said!!!

Iupdate
01-26-05, - 07:41 PM
iupdate you are off on haitians being involved in the drud trade.just this past week in the tribune there was an article pertaining to such


Yeah, perhaps I am off and perhaps it is so, but I really don't think it was the people who are hitching the ride, otherwise I say they are silly and are wrong not once but two times. The drugs are bad, but lets hope that it is not the Hatian boats or the onces hitching a ride that are bringing all these guns to town or to any one of our islands for that matter.

globehopper
01-27-05, - 04:36 PM
My People, My People, My People....

What is with the all the anger and the hatred? Aren't the palms of enough BAHAMIANS being greased to allow the ILLEGAL masses to enter our land. Why are you not frustrated and angry at them?What if the shoe was on the other foot, and Haiti was the wealthy nation that all the Bahamians were fleeing to, what would you say then?

I do agree that the Haitians should invest and return to their land, but they can only do that if they are able to create something to return to. All of us came from somewhere else, but we stuck together and made this country what it is today. If we stop allowing the CRIMINALS to run what we have created, then we can all enjoy a piece of this FRUITFUL, BOUNTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL, and SUCCESSFUL NATION.

Can't we ALL just get along? Why is there so much anti-Caribbean sentiments amongst Caribbean people? Black crab runnin rampant. :biggie: :angel:

bsmbahamas
01-27-05, - 06:39 PM
iupdate you are off on haitians being involved in the drud trade.just this past week in the tribune there was an article pertaining to such


heh ... and now they tearing up nassau village

bsmbahamas
01-27-05, - 06:42 PM
My People, My People, My People....

What is with the all the anger and the hatred? Aren't the palms of enough BAHAMIANS being greased to allow the ILLEGAL masses to enter our land. Why are you not frustrated and angry at them?What if the shoe was on the other foot, and Haiti was the wealthy nation that all the Bahamians were fleeing to, what would you say then?

I do agree that the Haitians should invest and return to their land, but they can only do that if they are able to create something to return to. All of us came from somewhere else, but we stuck together and made this country what it is today. If we stop allowing the CRIMINALS to run what we have created, then we can all enjoy a piece of this FRUITFUL, BOUNTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL, and SUCCESSFUL NATION.

Can't we ALL just get along? Why is there so much anti-Caribbean sentiments amongst Caribbean people? Black crab runnin rampant. :biggie: :angel:


I don't know if it is anger per say, but we gonna have to move to haiti sooner or later, cause we running out of land here. They squatting it away, and the rest can't be afforded by the general public that make less than minimum wage - even though a law was past - $175 is still minimum wage in my opinion, you can barely rent an apartment with $700 per month.

canewry
01-27-05, - 10:19 PM
175 is still minimum wage in my opinion, you can barely rent an apartment with $700 per month.

Of course you can find an apartment for less than $700.00...the question is are you willing to live there?

YorickBrown
01-27-05, - 10:31 PM
My People, My People, My People....

What is with the all the anger and the hatred? Aren't the palms of enough BAHAMIANS being greased to allow the ILLEGAL masses to enter our land. Why are you not frustrated and angry at them?What if the shoe was on the other foot, and Haiti was the wealthy nation that all the Bahamians were fleeing to, what would you say then?

I do agree that the Haitians should invest and return to their land, but they can only do that if they are able to create something to return to. All of us came from somewhere else, but we stuck together and made this country what it is today. If we stop allowing the CRIMINALS to run what we have created, then we can all enjoy a piece of this FRUITFUL, BOUNTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL, and SUCCESSFUL NATION.

Can't we ALL just get along? Why is there so much anti-Caribbean sentiments amongst Caribbean people? Black crab runnin rampant. :biggie: :angel:

You must not be living here in the Bahamas right now, or if you are, you must be one a dem people who live, work, and socialize on da otha side of da hill. If da shoe was on the other foot they would have just as much right to deny Bahamians illegal access to their country. Morals have no ground in this argument from their standpoint, cause they break the law getting here. I compare the situation to someone on the street breaking into your house, demanding a right to eat, sleep and drink there without contributing, inviting their whole family to join them and then expecting you to say nothing about it!

BLACK CRAB??? <insert suk teet here> Black crab, my black bungie!!! I want to know how Bahamians and Haitians all ga jam up on dese lil islands. Next t'ing ya know we all ga be speakin' creole.

I don't know about anger or frustration, but it is a bit worrying to see the level to which this particular group of immigrants has virtually taken over areas of the "bush" on our islands. Currently there are reports of Bahamian's houses being firebombed for reporting these immigrants various activities in their "shanty towns". The success of this country is dependent upon a peaceful and self-improving society, not one where there is blatant disrespect for the rights of Bahamians and the immigration laws of the Bahamas.

All it takes is for a one or two major incidents or protests and the "5 million tourists" record that we reached in 2004 soon may be nothing but a fond memory. And when since locals start riotin' and burnin' up police cars? The previous incident in Kemp Road was a first, but this needs to be looked at and nipped in the bud. One or two US advisories of instability and we can kiss our saying of "tourist money neva done..." goodbye.

Something smells fishy in this little country of ours - and it een da conch or da fish!

Tafadhali
01-28-05, - 01:33 AM
You must not be living here in the Bahamas right now, or if you are, you must be one a dem people who live, work, and socialize on da otha side of da hill. If da shoe was on the other foot they would have just as much right to deny Bahamians illegal access to their country. Morals have no ground in this argument from their standpoint, cause they break the law getting here. I compare the situation to someone on the street breaking into your house, demanding a right to eat, sleep and drink there without contributing, inviting their whole family to join them and then expecting you to say nothing about it!

BLACK CRAB??? <insert suk teet here> Black crab, my black bungie!!! I want to know how Bahamians and Haitians all ga jam up on dese lil islands. Next t'ing ya know we all ga be speakin' creole.

I don't know about anger or frustration, but it is a bit worrying to see the level to which this particular group of immigrants has virtually taken over areas of the "bush" on our islands. Currently there are reports of Bahamian's houses being firebombed for reporting these immigrants various activities in their "shanty towns". The success of this country is dependent upon a peaceful and self-improving society, not one where there is blatant disrespect for the rights of Bahamians and the immigration laws of the Bahamas.

All it takes is for a one or two major incidents or protests and the "5 million tourists" record that we reached in 2004 soon may be nothing but a fond memory. And when since locals start riotin' and burnin' up police cars? The previous incident in Kemp Road was a first, but this needs to be looked at and nipped in the bud. One or two US advisories of instability and we can kiss our saying of "tourist money neva done..." goodbye.

Something smells fishy in this little country of ours - and it een da conch or da fish!


Amen!

Rory
01-28-05, - 02:09 AM
And when since locals start riotin' and burnin' up police cars?

nassau village???

Rory
01-28-05, - 02:11 AM
inviting their whole family to join them and then expecting you to say nothing about it!



hmmm, sounds too familiar ... can you figure out who and where ..?

globehopper
01-28-05, - 09:46 AM
You must not be living here in the Bahamas right now, or if you are, you must be one a dem people who live, work, and socialize on da otha side of da hill. If da shoe was on the other foot they would have just as much right to deny Bahamians illegal access to their country. Morals have no ground in this argument from their standpoint, cause they break the law getting here. I compare the situation to someone on the street breaking into your house, demanding a right to eat, sleep and drink there without contributing, inviting their whole family to join them and then expecting you to say nothing about it!

BLACK CRAB??? <insert suk teet here> Black crab, my black bungie!!! I want to know how Bahamians and Haitians all ga jam up on dese lil islands. Next t'ing ya know we all ga be speakin' creole.

I don't know about anger or frustration, but it is a bit worrying to see the level to which this particular group of immigrants has virtually taken over areas of the "bush" on our islands. Currently there are reports of Bahamian's houses being firebombed for reporting these immigrants various activities in their "shanty towns". The success of this country is dependent upon a peaceful and self-improving society, not one where there is blatant disrespect for the rights of Bahamians and the immigration laws of the Bahamas.

All it takes is for a one or two major incidents or protests and the "5 million tourists" record that we reached in 2004 soon may be nothing but a fond memory. And when since locals start riotin' and burnin' up police cars? The previous incident in Kemp Road was a first, but this needs to be looked at and nipped in the bud. One or two US advisories of instability and we can kiss our saying of "tourist money neva done..." goodbye.

Something smells fishy in this little country of ours - and it een da conch or da fish!

Yorick,

Regardless of where I live I AM STILL A BAHAMIAN. You are displaying this prejudice against your own, and this is why HATRED is such an EVIL thing. It starts with the Haitians, but when they are gone, where will your HATRED and ANGER turn then?

I can truly relate to the frustration at being over run by ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, but you have the power to do something about it LEGALLY, not just by insulting a whole nation of people. We all live on ISLANDS here in the Caribbean, and there is limited space on all of them.

IF YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE THE RIGHT WAY, THEN ELECT THE RIGHT OFFICIALS! ONE'S WHO HAVE SOME TYPE OF BACKBONE, AND WILLING TO DO MORE THAN PROVIDE LIP SERVICE TO HELP THEIR PEOPLE. STOP THE PREJUDICE AND HATRED, IT ONLY CREATES MONSTERS. :bahamas:

YorickBrown
01-28-05, - 10:02 AM
Regardless of where I live I AM STILL A BAHAMIAN. You are displaying this prejudice against your own, and this is why HATRED is such an EVIL thing. It starts with the Haitians, but when they are gone, where will your HATRED and ANGER turn then?

HaHaHaHA! Hatred and anger? My former Haitian-Bahamian girlfriends would have QUITE a different story for you! (Bahamian gals have to watch out because Haitian women know how to take care of their man) A similar story of respect and brotherhood would be told by the LEGAL Haitians who I work with AND my property caretaker, who lives on the SAME property as I do along with his wife, brother and his grown son. Oh, there goes that theory of hatred and anger eh? Dont go there, cause you don't know me at all. Foolish ASSumptions.


I can truly relate to the frustration at being over run by ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, but you have the power to do something about it LEGALLY, not just by insulting a whole nation of people. We all live on ISLANDS here in the Caribbean, and there is limited space on all of them.
Yes, I can do something. What I am doing is making sure that the Bahamian public is not given a GUILT-TRIP about the plight of Haitians by persons like yourself, who have misconstrued the level to which they have penetrated our society. No one needs to be insulted, if they are here LEGALLY and do not harass Bahamians living near their illegal "subdivisions". They have a right to a stable life like everyone else in this world, but it should be done in a LEGAL manner, which the Haitians with RESPECT for this country make sure to do.


IF YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE THE RIGHT WAY, THEN ELECT THE RIGHT OFFICIALS! ONE'S WHO HAVE SOME TYPE OF BACKBONE, AND WILLING TO DO MORE THAN PROVIDE LIP SERVICE TO HELP THEIR PEOPLE. STOP THE PREJUDICE AND HATRED, IT ONLY CREATES MONSTERS. :bahamas:

Neither the PLP or the FNM has done anything about the situation in their terms of government, and the CDR and the BDM do not have enough support
to take over the government yet, SOOOOO I guess that until then it has to trickle down through the community that Bahamians do appreciate the Haitians who have found a better life here, but at the same time we will NOT be taken advantage of, by those who are willing to BREAK OUR LAWS!

No monsters here chief! You have made the wrong conclusions...GET YER FACTS RIGHT!

bsmbahamas
01-28-05, - 03:08 PM
175 is still minimum wage in my opinion, you can barely rent an apartment with $700 per month.

Of course you can find an apartment for less than $700.00...the question is are you willing to live there?


actually most of them are already taken up by mostly illegal immigrants - haitians/jamaicans, but your right I wouldn't want them. I pay $600 a month and like my quiet area.

bsmbahamas
01-28-05, - 03:35 PM
I have to agree with yorrick, we are not against them being here, we are against them being here illegally.

jamaicans and cubans don't come here every week by the boat load,
a few slip in here and there, and they don't create villages on land they don't own - well at least they don't over do it like the haitians - and children, oh my. I won't even speak on that.

I personally like the variety of mates to choose from, but if they are here illegally and burdening our 21 x 7, then it is just not worth it. i have nothing against them wanting a better way of life, but why not let their legal countrymen help them get here legally?

Iupdate
01-28-05, - 06:31 PM
There is a lot of talk about being here legally, but being here in smaller numbers does not means that foreigners are not helping to paralyze our economy, it does not mean they are not taking away from the Bahamian people, it does not mean they are not getting in the way of progress towards the future of Bahamian people.

Many of us have the attitude that foreign is better, I ask how? We are people all human beings and not because you are legal means that the foreigners are not in the Bahamian people way. Take for example the medical profess. It is generally saturated by foreign doctors who are willing to work the ER at the PMH for $12.00 an hour or a monthly salary of $3000.00 per month.

No wonder the Bahamian MDs stay away, because the foreign MD have allowed the salaries in the medical field to be brought down to bones (and they are not doing this by themselves either). The Bahamas may be a small country geographically but that is not the problem the problem is that we are small minded and we lack sight, insight innovation, we fail to see the potential of our small country. Every thing has its advantage and disadvantage and we need to act more prudently and stop with small and petty matters and see the potentials on matters we fail to change.

We can continue on growling over the Haitian issue but a whole lot more than this needs to be implemented to reverse this matter from getting worst and it seems to me we are not willing to do what it takes. So then it is time to turn our attention to see our advantage and how to capitalize on this. The Americans have found a way to capitalize on this; they find a way to capitalize on every thing. So until Haiti direction (economy) recovers we have this to face and there is nothing much at all we can do about it (and I do not say this with my hand in the air like I do not care, no. What I am saying is lets get creative put something on the table and stop swiping everything of the table with out petty complains and criticizing. Put something tangible and practical on the table so there is something to work with.

You know there is a slogan around here somewhere that reads BUY BAHAMIAN. What happen to that? As much as some foreigners may be here legally, be it in smaller numbers and as much as they may be assisting the Bahamian people we can not dispute the facts that there are Bahamian people just as qualify, the problem is we don’t only need to BUY BAHAMIAN but we need more leaders and more citizens will to SELL BAHAMAIAN just as well.

What happens when we act without first regulating? You know we are willing to beat up on the Haitians, but go talk to many small business owners and they will tell you who most of their customers are, while most Bahamian shun these small business for pretty or fancy interiors (now there are many reason other than this). So it is not all together an economic hazard as some of us would like to make believe. As much as the Haitians might bear down on the economy they are also a plus and if we are going to dump them we must ask further question before we do. We can dump all of the Haitians but what’s the substitute, what are the consequences?

Again, I don’t think we should be so quick to jump the gun on the Nassau Village issue, some of us here and most of us here are quick to throw this at the Haitians and some of us would pretty much like to throw this at the police (and I may be guilty of this myself). From my information it appears that it is an attitude problem between the residents of Nassau Village and the police that seems to have stemmed from previous matters. Anyone could have gotten shot; any one could have thrown the rocks.

Let me say this. I do know one thing for sure and I do know dozens of police who sit down and laugh over the illegal actions that they are involved in the name of the uniform they commit these act and the thing about this is; they sit down and laugh about it. Is this apart of the problem? If this is one of the reasons why the police fail to get respect then it is time we cleanup some personalities so that as we all look at the uniform we do so in the greatest respect. Or we can continue to do what is making us go down hill.