Who the hell is this ignoramus dearing me to reply? Before you wrote that crap you should have read all my posts to give you the idea that you can't keep up with me you fool.

Originally Posted by 100%Bahamian
I am sick and tired of all of this special attention given to Haiti on this website. You people act like Haiti is the only country in the world with those kinds of problems. There are crises in africa that are just as serious as the one in Haiti. Stop being bias with your pitty.

"i bet you aren't trying to help the africans either"

You bet wrong numbscull, I always help those deserving of help. I just recently donated to the survivors of the tsunami. What did you do?

Why don't you people that are constantly talking about Haiti please show us how to help this country. In details that is. Tell us how a small country with the population of about 300,000 people and limited amounts of wealth and resources possibly help this larger country of millions of people.

"I bet you aren't giving detailed information on how to help the Bahamas either ..."

I have simpleton, just as I suspected you havn't read all of my posts. Dumb***.

From what is reported by The Miami Herald (an American Newspaper) stated that one of the U.S. officials by the last name Noreaga said that both opposition and Aristide's government wouldn't cooperate with the other countries in the region in regards to coming to a peaceful end to the violence. What else can we do but give them advise?

"give actual help, if not to them from us, from another country by following our proposals, which will help us ultimately ..."

Since you somehow believe it is your responsibility to help the haitians do so with you own money, not anyone elses you Haitian lover.

We don't have an army and we don't beleive in invading a country to achieve goals of our missions. The only possible thing we can do is just talk and lend advise to thes people.

"ummmm .... isn't that what the message board is for?(for you to post detailed advise) AND isn't that what we are doing - lending our advise?"

This is inconsistant with what you said earlier. If this message board is for us to post advices why is it when I did you wondered weather I gave help to the africans too? It seems like you looking forward to me doing more than posting advice. Your probrably too dumb to realize what you said anyway.

We shouldn't get too deep into this even though it is affecting us directly.

"Oh God ... you need to loose your ability to speak!

You said: it-is-affecting-us-directly ...

if a mosquiot bites you what do you do?
if you have an itch, what do you do?
if you had a brain, what would you do?
(sorry couldn't help it)

First of all nucklehead you dissagree with me when I suggest to deport the Haitian scums then you say "if a mosquito bites you blah, blah, blah" Of course you will scratch an itch and of course you will deport immigrants. What nation on earth doesn't deport Immigrants? Except for Haiti, thats only because nobody want to go to hell on earth.

When, in your very humble opinion do you think we SHOULD get 'deep into this'?
When your private facilities are also crowded with paying haitians? Or when everyone in your neighbourhood is a foreigner.

You clearly don't have a mind. The only positive about your ignorant post is that you are capable of spelling. That however doesn't mean you have any sense because if it did you would have known better to respond to someone who is obviously more educated than you are.

this is what you need to do asap -> get some duct tape and it!
(then tape it again)
"
That will help of course huh. Let us all just tape up our mouths while immigrants are taking over our country. Now how stupid do you think your words are looking sentence by sentence?

Even if the Haitians are granted their wish from god. Oh yeah I forgot, their religion is voodoo. But never the less, even if they got thier wish for a new government that still wouldn't stop them from making a mass exudos from Haiti.

"not logical at all, get the tape "

For yourself I hope. Or better yet get the mittens. We must stop you from typing.

All we can do is beef up the patrols of the R.B.D.F around inagua and use the money we waste deporting these people to hire more citizens to work the RBDF and Immigration department.

"think about how much money would be left if you actually buy a new tire instead of paying $4 until the tire falls apart"

[B]Now if you are smart tell us what you mean by that. You are assuming that we are just patching up a tire. What should we do to send these people home. Ask them to leave? You are clearly not worth responding to. You are so inconsistent. You criticize me of not explaining in details and now you just did the same. Other than deporting the trash, tell us how to fix this problem. Of course you don't have a clue, just like your posts. And I mean all of them.

These people only beleive in brute force. Thats what was going on there for 200 years. They can't handle a democratic government. They only believe in a millitary ran government.

"a democratic government isn't necessarily the best government type,
and a dictator type government could actually work if the leaders were
not always corrupted and actually listened to the people, the reality is that even democratic leaders only sometimes listen to the people"

You are truly the dumbest yet. You are suggesting a dictatorship of the free world. Hey stupid, do you think if you lived under a dictatorship you would be able to post you opinions? The only way a dictatorship will ever work is if Jesus was the leader. Men are imperfect and that's the reason for a Democratic way of life you fool. What if someone like me was the dictator. Idiots like you would be breathing for too long butt-head.

Why don't you guys stop wasting your time talking about helping Haiti. Your beating a dead horse. Use all that energy to find ways to enhance the lifestyle of the Bahamas, especially the family Islands.

"because if we don't find a solution, other than sending them back home, which clearly is not working either, we will not be able to support our growing population, and then we would all be poor - "

We have enough money and enough support from citizens to send them home believe me. These Haitians aren't coming here for free. They will eventually get tired of wasting money and they will stop. Some are more tennacious than others but will eventually get the message. Especially if you make them work to afford their passage home or even Beat their Wet Backs.


Don't you realize if we can become more self sufficient and alot more wealthier with an even stronger economy, then we will be capable of actualy helping our fellow man. We have to be able to help ourselves first before we can help others. Its common freaking sense!
Peace out. I LOVE THE BAHAMAS!!!!!!!!

"read my comment about fixing the problem again"



lol





ok sorry for being harsh,(you started it).

... and I double dare you to respond



lol

Now you know me a little better and should now be a little more reluctant to respond. I would have responded a little earlier but I had no idea there was a new dipstick in town. I knew nobody else would go head to head with me but I guess I was wrong.

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I seriously wonder what Bahamian would do if all these haitians spreading across the caribbean and the US finally get smart and do something about Haiti, and we keep digging bahamas further into the ground.

Don't worry about that because the Haitians are too stupid to do so. My evidence is in the United States itself. All the Haitian youth are getting locked up. Can you believe that the haitians in the states outnumber any other nationality at the start of the first simester in college and then not one of them graduated with me and my class. No lie either. Everyone of the Bahamian students graduated on time but not one of the at least 40 haitians graduated. What do you think about that dummy?

I sincerely hope that if that day ever comes the haitians will allow us into their country and help us get on our feet the way we 'should' be helping them.

Your scared! you sound like a bandwaggoner. You sound like an independent. No wonder you feel for the haitians so much. You are just like them. You want to reep others rewards. Haitian people are selfish and they would admitt to it themselves. Even if hell freezes over and haiti is a better country than the bahamas they wouldn't let us live there even if we treated them like kings and queens here you dummy.

the bible says "one day one man esteemeth above the other, and another day the other esteemeth above the first".

The bible said alot of thing and is interpretated in different ways. If you believe that's what it meant then you truly are an imbissil. God will let you suffer regardless because he knows exactly why you are being good to haitians.

The reality is that we live in a very dynamic world, and being such a small community of islands with "every Christ 'ting" located on Nassau, one hurricane or disease could wipe us out overnight, and if, God forbid we survive and somehow america imposes a trade embargo against us,
we will be totally screwed.

One hurricane? We had a couple and we still here. Haiti had a tropical storm and I heard they will never recover.

the reality is we are doing 'relatively' well right now, but what will happen if that were to change tomorrow?

With educated bahamians like me who is always looking for us to get better that day will not come too soon. Regardless, we will deport them all.

It really is not nice to mock and scorn our black brothers and sisters because they have fallen. I agree that illegal immigrants - haitian or otherwise, need to be sent home - but if home is not where the heart is - will they really stay home?

Frankly I don't care what color they are. Its always ignorance that uses color to achieve goals. We have alot of white bahamians who did and is still doing a hell of alot more than what hatians are doing for the bahamas. A born and raised bahamian knows that, this leads me to believe that you are a Haitian.

and your parents already told you if you can't say anything nice(or constructive), then don't say anything at all.

Not exactly! Me father told me to speak the truth. Jesus spoke the truth regardless of who he offended. Not that I am comparing myself to the almighty but you need to speak for yourself. The truth might hurt but the truth sets you free.

remeberer even if the bahamas can't help some other country might read a solution posted here in the future and possibly help haiti out.

You help haiti with your own money. The government uses the peoples money to ship them back home because that is what the people want. The day they government uses our money to help haitians have a better life and forget about its own citizens they will be voted out faster than the FNM government.

stop flooding the board with your nonsense and brainless comments,
nobody really cares that the haitians are here - we know that already - we care about solving the problem.

Speak for yoursel. Everyone I know do care about the haitians being here, they want them to go home. And to solve a problem whereas the problem is we do not want the haitians here the solution is to deport them idiot.

the government can't stop 'em, only send 'em back - and it is painfully obvious that they are jumping on the first thing leaving to come right back.

Then you keep sending them back. They will get tired of wasting money. Just like everyone else. I got tired of spending alot of money going to eleuthera so I limmited my visits to one a year to see my mother rather than every 2-3 months. See it takes money to travel even in haiti. And believe me they are very very poor and will eventually get the message to stop wasting their money.

The simple answer is that we bahamians hate change and resist it. We tend to be to hung up on culture, history and what we are mostly forced into doing by our parents.

Thats a boldface lie. Look at the average bahamian today. Small families, microwave dinners and tv all day cellphones all night. We embrace change but resist a lesser comfort of life. Thats what the haitians bring. We do not want that. Thats why they will be deported.

This is why 3 american teens(and even chinese people) can put their heads together and start a company when black persons, esp. caribbean people want to do everything by themselves.

Another ignorant lie. It takes education and intelligence. Put three dumb hillbillies together and see what amounts besides chewing straws and spitting. Now put three very intelligent and highly educated bahamians together and see what will happen you idiot!

the problem is they, *not me*, have security issues, and everyone wants to show up the other person.

That is called a competetive nature fool. It is essential in developing a more advanced society.

what they all need to do is read and understand what dependence really is, then they can work at becoming truly independent.

Yeah, independence like Haiti huh. They always looking for someone to help them. America, France or the Bahamas doesn't owe them anything. Why are they always looking for us to invest into that wasteland?

Then, and only then, can they move on to the highest level which is inter-dependence - which involves 2 or more independent people or companies working together for a common goal, sorta like in the states where you can go into KFC and buy TacoBell or when you visit a company and they don't have what you offer but recommend you to another company.

Fool that is called merging. Companies merge because their sales are plummothing through the floors. They save money on renting and running a restaurant and still make sales. Maybee Haiti and Jamaica should merge and have their immigrants get the hell out of the Bahamas.

You are hopelessly trying to understand the world and still lending advice. You should be forced to wear mittens on your hand to prevent you from typing that sort of nonesense.

Who is talking to who as there are no quotes ... is this like a bot ..?

I don't know about u, but I have a problem with the amount of Haitian flags I see popping up on cars. In the midst of my celebrating my independence, while I am proudly displaying my flag, the Hatians are displaying theirs, what is that all about?:mad:


ARE YOU A LITTLE CHILD, CUASE YOU SOUND VERY IMMATURE. GIRL GO REST UR SELF

this foolishness again, when will bahamas issues be about bahamians and not haitians.

this foolishness again, when will bahamas issues be about bahamians and not haitians.

I agree with you 100%. The reason I do respond about the way I feel about the Haitians is because I am sick and tired of people thinking we should lay down our lifestyle and heritage for them. I don't want to read anything about haiti on a website that is named BAHAMAS ISSUES. Everytime I am reading threads and posts, I do so because I am concerned about my country. In some way speaking about the haitians does relate to us here in the bahamas because their massive immigration to our shores has affected each and every bahamian if we realize it or not. But to have members such as haitian boy posting his haitian concerns is just hypocritical to the purpose of this site. Let us all just stick to the purpose of the site and talk about Bahamas Issues please. I don't care to learn about Haitian History. The reason most people are completely disgusted about haitians is because they insists on forcing themselves into our society and culture. I don't care for jamaicans but I would rather have them here than the haitians because atleast they are not forcing us to speak thier jamaican lingo's and learn jamaican history. And when they are deported they don't come back for the second, third and fourth times.

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti - (KRT) - The charred remains of nine people were removed from the smoldering wreckage of a downtown marketplace Wednesday, the latest victims of a surge of violence that has prompted the U.S. Embassy to send some of its personnel home.

Dozens of gunmen stormed the market in central Port-au-Prince Tuesday around noon, unleashing a torrent of bullets to scare away police and merchants before setting the two buildings on fire with Molotov cocktails.

Witnesses said the gunmen claimed to be supporters of former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, and that police at a station next door fled the scene when one of them was wounded.

The attack left nine people burned to death and two others fatally shot, and removed a cornerstone of Haiti's already teetering economy. With some 2,500 merchants, the Tet Bef (Cow's Head) Market was a critical hub of commerce where wholesalers hawk everything from underwear to soap.

Haitian officials depicted the destruction - as well as the killing of a French honorary consul in an apparent robbery attempt the same day - as part of what they have been calling ``a destabilization movement.''

The U.S. State Department last week ordered the departure of non-essential U.S. Embassy personnel and all family members after an embassy van was sprayed with bullets downtown.

``The truth is that we are at war in Haiti today,'' Police Chief Leon Charles said last week. ``It is an urban guerrilla situation.''

Charles and other Haitian officials repeatedly have blamed the upsurge in violence on partisans of Aristide, who fled the country during an armed revolt last year. Yet on Tuesday, the Brussels-based International Crisis Group, which is independent, released a report blaming the violence on a broad range of ``spoilers'' who would benefit from lawlessness and chaos.

At the top of the group's list of likely culprits: drug traffickers and money launderers who have turned Haiti into a lucrative transit point for Colombian cocaine heading to U.S. markets. Others included militants who claim allegiance to the ex-president, business families that pay few taxes and ``politicians not yet ready for elections or fearful of a possible Lavalas success.''

But for some of those directly affected by Tuesday's fire, the blame lies squarely on the armed pro-Aristide gangs.

``The same guys who come here to shoot and scare us and call for Aristide to come back are the ones who did this,'' Rachel Pierre, a soap vendor, told The Miami Herald. ``They'll do whatever it takes to stop the elections.''

Robert Anglade, general supervisor of the market, said gangs have been making threats to burn down the place for months. ``We had a lot of warnings,'' he said. ``They tried to burn us out twice recently. This time they succeeded.''

He would not explain the motive behind the threats, although merchants say that pro-Aristide gunmen regularly extorted them for cash both before and after his departure.

As Anglade spoke, survivors dug through the ashes looking for anything they could salvage.

The older of the two buildings, a brick-walled railway station for long-gone banana plantations, had fallen to rubble.

Inside the burned concrete shell of the other, the naked metal frames of merchant stands were the only remnants of the teeming commerce that thrived for so long.

A body lying in one corridor had an arm extended as if trying to crawl to safety. Three other bodies were entwined together, huddled in the smoke.

Although police officially said that five people died, both the market manager and a reporter working with The Herald counted nine burned bodies.

Gerda Lereau, 41, stood desolately on the spot where she once sold imported clothes.

``When they started to shoot we ran to hide,'' she recounted. ``They came in and spread fire everywhere. We hid and then we found a way out.''

But firetrucks were unable to prevent the disaster. With only one functioning fire hydrant in the area, the trucks go back and forth filling up their tanks.

``The entire market burned down. I am ruined. The firetrucks don't have water. They spray some water and then they have to go get more water. What kind of country is this?''

While most of Haiti has returned to relative peace since Aristide's ouster, recent violence has plunged the capital deeper and deeper into a state of panic and paranoia. Kidnappings and carjackings have become epidemic. Whole swaths of the city are no-go zones.

The 7,400 U.N. peacekeepers in Haiti have been accused of being too passive and unwilling to confront armed militants.

``There are places you can't go anymore,'' said Jerry Tardieu, vice president of Haitian Chamber of Commerce. ``There are no police, there are no businesses open. ... It seems impossible that the government has no control over large areas of the capital.''---

why are these resitors so foolish. cant they see that they are only hurting the situation. they cant love their country and want the best for it when they do things that chase away visitors, kill their own, and make people wanna give up on the country.

I am not down with the Haitian flag in the streets of the Bahamas. There are too many of them living here illegally and thinks its ok. Government need to wake up and stop all this garbage they are practicing in Cabinet about changing the laws to allow them to work and remain here after a while. I hated the 1973 law that states that once they were born here before that July 10 they can stay and now they want to move it to 1985 what the hell is going on here. Bahamian’s don’t practice what took place in Nassau Village. I would give up my degree for a month without sleep to ship everyone home. I feel the business need to stop hiring these people illegally, even if it only to weed the yard. There are companies that perform those types of services. STOP HARBOURING HAITIANS

I feel the business need to stop hiring these people illegally, even if it only to weed the yard. There are companies that perform those types of services. STOP HARBOURING HAITIANS

Which Bahamian company can one hire to weed?

I am not down with the Haitian flag in the streets of the Bahamas. There are too many of them living here illegally and thinks its ok. Government need to wake up and stop all this garbage they are practicing in Cabinet about changing the laws to allow them to work and remain here after a while. I hated the 1973 law that states that once they were born here before that July 10 they can stay and now they want to move it to 1985 what the hell is going on here. Bahamian’s don’t practice what took place in Nassau Village. I would give up my degree for a month without sleep to ship everyone home. I feel the business need to stop hiring these people illegally, even if it only to weed the yard. There are companies that perform those types of services. STOP HARBOURING HAITIANS



you know, Atlantist just last week had a big sha bang for America's Independance. I have not heard any one on here make one peep about that. hypotheticaly speaking i wonder what would happen if they had a big sha bang for haiti's independance. on the junkanoo boxing day parade 2001, one group had american flags made out of crate (sp) paper, they were really pretty. i didnt hear any one make a peep about that either. also there are big american flags posted all over nassau, waving in the sweet bahamian breeze. so whats the problem if a haitian wants to display their flag. one thing i hate is double standards if one cant do it, then none should be able to do it.

also i dont know if you ever read up on WHY the gov allows people born in the bahamas the right to live there. i suggest you do, once you get past your emotions you will relise it makes sense to do so and that it is for the better of the society.

Which Bahamian company can one hire to weed?


and for $100 a week ...

THIS POST WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WHO'S RIGHT AND WHO'S WRONG. SHOULD THEY STAY OR SHOULD THEY GO. ITS JUST TO BRING ABOUT AWARNESS AND TO GIVE US SOMETHING TO THINK about:

i recently stumbled across this website that has lead me to other websites concerning problems in Haiti, many of the problems dont make it to the international media. for example how many of you know that on July 6, 2005 while the bahamas was gearing up for its independance celebrations and the USA was winding down from theirs there was a brutal massacre in haiti. after reading some of these articles and veiwing some of the photos i am now convinced that Haiti will NEVER be fixed. with the political parties, the UN, the temp gov, the political prisnors, and the gangs haiti is just wraped in a mass ball of confusion that cant be un ravelled; at least not in our lifetime. so to everyone on the board i pose this question:

(note: some of these links contain somewhat graphic images)

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/SK/4_4_5.html

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/HIP/7_12_5.html

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/LD/3_10_5/3_10_5.html

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/SK/7_6_5.html

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/BL/6_28_5.html

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/MW/6_28_5.html

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/HIP/5_8_5/5_8_5.html

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/HLL/4_22_5.html

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/HIP/6_7_5.html

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/HIP/5_18_5/5_18_5.html

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/MW/5_13_5.html

http://www.haitiaction.net/News/HIP/1_7_5.html

after flipping through some of these links the question that i posed to myself and that i now pose to yall is: as a single individual would you stay there?

also note that this post will appear in other haitian threads