I am a liberal!

Yes you are...on many issues...

you come of as someone who tries to "school" your fellow bahamians about the outside world like "we een know nuthin"
"Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent" (Eleanor Roosevelt)

"Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent" (Eleanor Roosevelt)

Strongly agree with the late Mrs. Roosevelt.

"Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent" (Eleanor Roosevelt)

laughing at Mrs. Roosevelt statement as she sat on the white house lawn, drinking pink lemonade while a black man was linched in Mississipi for looking at a white woman, simultaneously while, a black man was arrested in California for just being the wrong colour in the wrong place at the wrong time; not to mention the black woman who is forced to register her child to the overcrowded school in the project, while extra seats and better books are available uptown....
I laugh at Mrs. Roosevelt because she looked through rose coloured glasses when she said that and offered to feed the populace cake when they were begging for bread due to starvation...

laughing at Mrs. Roosevelt statement as she sat on the white house lawn, drinking pink lemonade while a black man was linched in Mississipi for looking at a white woman, simultaneously while, a black man was arrested in California for just being the wrong colour in the wrong place at the wrong time; not to mention the black woman who is forced to register her child to the overcrowded school in the project, while extra seats and better books are available uptown....
I laugh at Mrs. Roosevelt because she looked through rose coloured glasses when she said that and offered to feed the populace cake when they were begging for bread due to starvation...

I guess you dont know much about her. http://www.udhr.org/history/Biographies/bioer.htm

Yes you are...on many issues...

thank you sweetie!

"Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent" (Eleanor Roosevelt)

I cant be accused of that. and crediting that statement towards me is totally off base. You should just know that making assumptions can get your arse in trouble. Like I said earlier I read and listen and form objective opinions too! You dont have to leave the Bahamas to have a world view!

laughing at Mrs. Roosevelt statement as she sat on the white house lawn, drinking pink lemonade while a black man was linched in Mississipi for looking at a white woman, simultaneously while, a black man was arrested in California for just being the wrong colour in the wrong place at the wrong time; not to mention the black woman who is forced to register her child to the overcrowded school in the project, while extra seats and better books are available uptown....
I laugh at Mrs. Roosevelt because she looked through rose coloured glasses when she said that and offered to feed the populace cake when they were begging for bread due to starvation...


whatever the circumstances and who ever said it the statement is definintly true. nobody could bring me down except for me

"Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent" (Eleanor Roosevelt)

CG and Bahamaboy, you are both very correct. The big problem back in the day of Mrs. Roosevelt was that the African Americans were taught that they were inferior and eventually they believed. Her statement went hand in hand with the human rights movement at the time to restore pride to a surpressed group of people. Eventually they did get the message and regained pride and stood up (or sat down in the case of Rosa Parks).

Bringing this back to the point, this is the same situation that exists today with the gay culture in the Bahamas. I remember when I was in high school if you were even suspected of being gay you were harassed. God forbid you open your mouth and speak back, cause then that was a beating automatically. Now, when I walk down the streets of Nassau I see gay bois qualming all the time seemingly with no problem or at least much less of a problem than they did 10 years ago. My point is that it seems the local gay culture are adopting the words of Mrs. Roosevelt and refusing to feel inferior just because they don't have the same sexual and emotional urges as a hetero person.

I am a youth director and of reason we had our panel discussion on the above topic and many children claimed that this type of behavior is a norm in the their schools. and that some of the smartest children are entangle in it and so many of them try it out because they are either curious or they need extra love and attention.
what are your views.

The primary place that gay children loose and/or lack love and attention is when they decide to be honest with themselves and their families and they opt to openly identify themselves as homosexual. This is huge step that requires significant courage, intellect and hardiness and one that usually results in a loss of respect and the love and attention you spoke of earlier. If we really care about our youth we will make sure they are educated, sexually responsible and equipped to make sound decisions regardless of their sexuality. We will make sure they feel free to be who they really are without fear of the loss of love and positive attention such a revelation could easily result in. We would move to make our community one of acceptance and not one of fear and prejudice. Loss of love does not make our youth gay ....but being gay can assuredly result in an unfair and unfortunate loss of love, respect and understanding. You would be doing our country a service to carry that message to other youth directors.

Amen :tup:

Hi there i Like to believe that i am a lebrial Young Bahamian male. Every Man,women,child, in the world have and need Basic Human Right Including Gays and Lesbians, with that said lets turn to me i was Molested more than once in the Bahamas By Bahamian man Older than myself no one cared! I remember telling my Uncle he Laughed at me made fun point fingers.
humans can be cruel!. but I fought back at one point I remember gun butting a person I knew in Nassau. I Moved in with a lady, who at the time lived in Grand Bahama a well Known Christian, she said she was to change me you know church, church however she could not for some reason or the other, but she could not see that her Brother was a Down-LoW Kind of fellow. that man raped me repeadetly gave me money to cover the wounds I told the lady as well as a number of people she told me that her brother was not gay, and get this she is from Myguana Island worked for social serves and her brother worked for the Mary Star of the Sea Private school teaching youngs Boys. the church that they go to i told them as well they could not believe it and the lady was a big time supervisor Social Services Department in the National Insurance Bldg Freeport, she has since retired and her brother fired for molesting a kid from a public school in Nassau.

what i want to tell all you Bahamians Like me who dont have a voice in the Bahamas, and went through the same thine is that a lot of Bahamian men are closet Gay and Moleaters of young boys. i was 13 when this took place and he was a married man with a live in wife-later down. but every where i wnt people pointed look at me called me names stigmatized me it hurted. so i ran away from the Bahamas never to return ever again!. yes i am now happy however i am not Gay and i was never gay for years i was told be who u are it tricked me into believing that i was gay, matter of fact i have had two girlfriends and one wife in the past now single and looking for a Lady. NEVR Practiced gay sex and dont care for it, actually i dispise it.

i do believe that being Gay is not natural, however the judgement is up to GOD not man becuse we are week we are flesh we fall down. but believe me this is from the hourses mouth Plenty of Bahamian Men fight the urge to go with other men, i have seen so many married and single, to the dirty down-low brothers. remember Art Telle what you do in the dark will come to light one day.

Most young boys do it for the love of materal things, father figure, Car, Tinnis, and the lack of family loveor to be in the click, Oh thats My boy yeh Right! some guys have boy friends that they go to the states to see and leave thier women behined. wake up bahamas this has been going on i know lots of them from every walk of life holy or not. by the way the CHURCH has the most undercover scam artest that i have ever come to know. most gays hide in the pulpit and behind marrige. experience is the best teacher of all i;ve been there done it i can tell you.
take from a CHANGED MAN.

a whole lot of downlow brothers fighting themseleves. but for God sakes dont mess up the young girls lives thats not far that is playing games with people lives.

but who are we to judge live and let live

Hi there i Like to believe that i am a lebrial Young Bahamian male every Man,women,child, in the world have and need Basic Human Right Including Gays and Lesbians,with that said lets turn to me i was Molested More than once in the Bahamas By Bahamian Men Older Than myself No one cared! i remember telling my Uncle he Laughed at me made fun point fingers.
humans can be cruel!. but i fought back at one point i remember gun butting a person i knew in Nassau. i Moved in with a lady who at the time lived in Grand Bahama a well Known Christian she said she was to change me you know Church , church however she could not for some reason or the other see that her Brother was a Down-LoW Kind of fellow that man raped me repeadetly gave me money to cover the wounds i told the ladyshe told me that her brother was not gay and get this she is from Myguana Island worked for social serves and her brother worked for the mary star of the sea Private school teaching youngs Boys.the church that they go to i told them as well the situatuation they could not believe it and the lady was a bigshot in the Social Services Department in the National Insurance Bldg Freeport she has since retired and her brother Fired for molesting a kind from a public school in Nassau.
what i want to tell all you Bahamians Like me who dont have a voice in the Bahamas and went through the same thine is that a lot of Bahamian men are Gay and Moleaters of young boys. i was 13 when this took place and he was a married man with a live in wife later down. but every where i wnt people pointed look at me called me names stigmatized me it hurted. so i ran away from the Bahamas never to return ever again!. yes i am now happy however i am not Gay and i was never gay for years i was tricked into believing that i was gay matter of fact i have had Two girlfriends and one wife in the past Now single and looking for a Lady. NEVR Practiced gay sex and dont care for it, actually i dispise it.
i do believe that being Gay is wrong and not natural,however the judgement is up to GOD not man becuse we are week we are flesh we fall down. but believe me this is from the hourses mouth Plenty of Bahamian Men fight the urge to go with other men, i have seen so many married and single, to the dirty downlow brothers. remember Art Telle what you do in the dark will come to light one day.
Most you boys do it for the love of materal things ,Car Tinnis to be in the click Oh thats My boy yeh Right! some guys have boy friend that they go to the states to see and leave thier women behined wake up bahamas this has been going on i know lots of them from every walk of life holy or not by the way the CHURCH has the most undercover scam artest. most gays hide in the pulpit and behind marrige. experience is the best teacher of all ive been there done it i can tell you.
a whole lot of downlow brothers fighting themseleves.
but who are we to judge live and let live

Your situation is very unique. How is it that you were tricked into thinking you were gay? All I understand from your story is that you were molested. It just seems that you were not in a situation to fight off your molesters. I do feel sorry that you had to endure that but I applaud your strength for standing up for yourself and trying to confront your molester.

You did make a serious flaw here that I find a bit offensive. It seems as though you are comparing homosexuality to pedophilia. You were molested as a child by a pedophile. Pedophilia and homosexuality are very different things that should not be confused. The former is a psychological illness, while the latter is a sexual orientation.

It sounds like you are a very informed based on your experience. You describe the situation very well, talking about the "trades" (hetero guys that have sex with gay men for money) and other such instances. Let us not get sidetracked and misrepresent the entire gay community. Yes there are a few persons out there such as you have described. Let me assure you, they are a minority within the gay community.

The primary place that gay children loose and/or lack love and attention is when they decide to be honest with themselves and their families and they opt to openly identify themselves as homosexual. This is huge step that requires significant courage, intellect and hardiness and one that usually results in a loss of respect and the love and attention you spoke of earlier. If we really care about our youth we will make sure they are educated, sexually responsible and equipped to make sound decisions regardless of their sexuality. We will make sure they feel free to be who they really are without fear of the loss of love and positive attention such a revelation could easily result in. We would move to make our community one of acceptance and not one of fear and prejudice. Loss of love does not make our youth gay ....but being gay can assuredly result in an unfair and unfortunate loss of love, respect and understanding. You would be doing our country a service to carry that message to other youth directors.

You are wise beyond your years...

You did make a serious flaw here that I find a bit offensive. It seems as though you are comparing homosexuality to pedophilia. You were molested as a child by a pedophile. Pedophilia and homosexuality are very different things that should not be confused. The former is a psychological illness, while the latter is a sexual orientation.

it really irritates me when i discuss homosexuality (amongst friends/family) and they (ALWAYS) up pedophilia! :what: WTF? totally different! apples and oranges! sad thing is, many people dony WANT to understand the difference.