You know something. This a1000 person is very interesting. Yeah it might seem like the information is a bit overwhelming at times, but there are a couple of points that he/she has made that I've heard before, and agreed w/ to some extent.

With that said, I have some questions for a1000. Tell me, do you have any theories or *praxis* on our Educational system, Judicial system, and our entire mode of operation in this country??

Neo: Who are you?
Trinity: My name is Trinity.
Neo: Trinity. The Trinity? That cracked the IRS d-base?
Trinity: That was a long time ago.
Neo: Jesus.
Trinity: What?
Neo: I just thought, um...you were a guy.
Trinity: Most guys do.
Neo: It you on my computer. How did you do that?
Trinity: Right now all I can tell you is that you're in danger. I brought you here to warn you.
Neo: Of what?
Trinity: They're watching you, Neo.
Neo: Who is?
Trinity: Please just listen. I know why you're here, Neo. I know what you've been doing. I know why you hardly sleep, why you live alone, and why night after night you sit at your computer. You're looking for him. I know, because I was once looking for the same thing. And when he found me, he
told me I wasn't really looking for him. I was looking for an answer. It's the question that drives us mad. It's the question that brought you here. You
know the question just as I did.
Neo: What is the Matrix.
Trinity: The answer is out there, Neo. It's looking for you. And it will find you, if you want it to.

Namaste all, this is a moment for Umoja:

“………Umoja- Unity: To strive for and maintain unity in the family, community, nation, and race.

I have been having a great time playing in the snow and reading threads, it’s amazing what one finds and learns, but I will be making my comments as I get around to it. I have notice that Abaskan-moon Angel is missing and wonder if she is well, might have to send the Bahamian defense force to invade England to get her back.

Gian18778 thank you for your comments, and in fact, if I have not at this moment I want to thank everyone who have commented in this thread, and those who have read and are reading thank you and to those that I cause you to say hmm a1000 may have some thing here these post are for you for you are the Seventh Generation.

There are just a tremendous amount of ideas that I would love to share with all of you at this moment, I was thinking of just weaving it into one response but as I worked on the out line it would be just to long for a single post at this moment thus I am breaking it down into several response.

Licks2 thanks for the post this is your first time posting in this thread, I love the critique, by the way are you a student of Immanuel Kant? I have been working on my library and had to pull out a few books on him in order to do justice to a response, it’s coming.

CG thanks, I am organizing my ideas in my head, great response I do believe that you justice was served.

Now before I enter the main point of this post I found a gem, which is why it is so important to read a thread in its entirety from the thread Private no holds Barrred Room!:
http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=3125

This forum is open and it will stay open. The entire purpose of this site is to find solutions to issues facing the Bahamas through constructive dialog and not useless ranting.
Other sites have their purpose and this site has its also.

Now the saga continues, Gian18778 you have brought to the thread an interesting question:

With that said, I have some questions for a1000. Tell me, do you have any theories or *praxis* on our Educational system, Judicial system, and our entire mode of operation in this country??

However you will find that on the subject of education my position is:
http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=2572&page=6

I am brining the definition of culture back to the fore front. Let’s look at the book From Plan To Planet Life Studies: The Need For Afrikan Minds and Institution by Don Lee, page 30:

“………………….The Need For An African Education.

Our Position On Black Education is Very Clear and simple. Either a people prepare their youth to be responsible and responsive to their needs as a people or somebody else will teach them to be responsible and responsive to somebody else’s needs at the expense and detriment of themselves and their people.”Mwalimu Julius Nyeree has stated that the purpose of (education) is to transmit from one generation to the next the accumulated wisdom and knowledge of the society, and to prepare the young people for their membership of the society and their active participation in its maintenance or development’. The most important asset a people has is its young. Without children there is no continuation, there is no future. You cannot build a Black Nation or a world with just one generation; we need generations. We need a youth that can complete that which we start, a youth that can challenge the future we’re bound for. We need offspring that is skilled in the necessary areas of world building…………”

As we explore the issue of education in this new paradigm/cultural matrix let us be mindful of this defention.

Actually page6 of http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=2572&page=6 puts forth:

1. analysis on government structure

2. Western/European Cultural Matrix and the African Centered Matrix

3. New Modes of thinking/being the concept of Kawaida.


More response to come the snow is melting now.:)

Let us sit or assume what ever position we find comfortable on the pink sand of this beach in Eleuthra. There is a light breeze blowing and the needles of the cedar trees have formed a mat upon the sand, free from all the normal undergrowth. It is evening time on this beach yet the temperature is just right for all that are gathered in this spiral circle pattern. We can hear the waves crash on the shore, its harmonic singing imbues us with peace, love truth and joy, and for some its OM, Jesus, Shango and others but despite our particular call to the path of spirituality the sea speaks to us. This is the Assembly Of The Nation, This is the gathering of The Seventh Generation, This is the manifestation of the Elders the adults the teens the children, the babies those unborn, the ancestors, the creator and the other manifestation of creation, we are not anthropocentric thus we recognize all existence.

On this beach in Eleuthra resting on cedar needles which cover the pink sand we are gathered to hear from each other and each one is heard as if we were all sitting next to each other, and each is understood as if each was one mind.Thus spoke CG to the nation:

First of all we are not all firmly rooted in an African centered world. Those two sites - and many other writings - clearly hold the view that Afrocentrism is a myth. The false foundation is that it is believed as fact. There is nothing wrong with a good myth - they can open the soul to new incites but don't call it fact. Call it what it is, a myth. Religion has made the mistake of calling myth fact and look at all the trouble that has caused. Myth has been with mankind from the dawn of time. It has shaped us more that we might care to admit and when used appropriately it can be a great tool. Used otherwise, and wars break out and hate gets the upper hand.

This is Black History month, what a shame that the shortest month in the calender is reserved for that! I used to teach Black History when I was in College - mostly because the faculty thought it was a waste of time so they handed it off to upper class men under the disguise of "teaching experience." I taught Black HISTORY and Black MYTH but I never confused the two.

In the playing of the breeze the tada dum, tada dum, dum dum could be heard of the drums, the dancing and knowing of the nation could be seen and felt but CG was unaware of this.{ best books and cd's}http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=2766

I am not a big fan of music. I only have a few CD's The Eagles, the Beatles, stuff like that. So you can see I am firmly stuck in the past!

An elder wept, She was/is the oldest. Her long ivory locks reached into the sand itself where she sat. Her dark brown skinned untouched by wrinkles, and her eyes were all white at this moment, she was no longer limited by physical sight. Of her age none could say as she was with us for ever it seem. Shango refused to take her spirit into the company of the ancestors, and has made her Shangos Voice among the people, Neither Death nor sicknesses are able to make a claim on her. She is our living example.

She said we are cognizant that all are not African Centered or as some call it Afrocentric. But we this nation are and it is from this community we speak no other. African centered/Afrocentrism began with the first African who were forcefully removed from her/his home land taking a handful of dirt and swallowing it. African Centered movement in its most fundamental form is an conscious effort on the part of those of African descent to restore what slavery, colonialism and neocolonialism has taken away. Thus this movement is not just rooted in history but it is rooted in the very fabric of culture thus it is mythical, historical and political in fact it touches every aspect of our lives. We hope you understand that we do not disregard myths or history we are very clear on the role that each plays but we are also aware of the great unity that these compartmentalization of experience addresses. We are unclear of what Afrocentrism/African centered means to you? We are also curious as to exactly what studies that you have undertaken to enable you to validate Afrocentrism/ African centeredness.

She lifted her hands to the air and spoke, and the great book of knowledge appeared. This was done in order that CG could partake in the sharing of knowledge as the magical melanin that leads not only to skin pigmentation but infuses the brain itself and allows one to tap higher consciousness was not well developed in him, thus many things had to be physically manifested for him. The Great Book of knowledge was open Utilitarianism - The Greater Good?:
http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?p=41398#post41398

Before i enter the subject at hand it is imperative to create context. This discussion occurs within the parameters of culture, a particular culture that is an African centered Paradigm which from the book Understanding an Afrocentric World View: Introduction To An Optimal Psychology second edition by Linda James Myers pages 12 through 13:


“………………The Afrocentric conceptual system assumes that reality is at once spiritual and material. According to Freye( 1978 Towards A Philosophy Of Black Studies. San Francisco: R&E Research Association pp.33-45), there is an all pervasive “energy”, which is the source, sustainer, and essence of all phenomena. In this regard, everything is spirit manifested. Spirit refers to that permeating essence we come to know in an extrasensory fashion (i.e. via energy/conscious/god). Within this spiritual/material ontology we lose the sense of individualized ego/mind, and experience the harmony of the collective identity of being one with the source of all good. Consubstantiation (sharing of substance of the whole with each of its parts) is assumed.

Nobles (1972 African Philosophy: Foundation For Black Psychology. In R. Jones (ed), Black Psychology. New York: Harper & Row.1986 ) and Zahan (1979 The Religion, Spirituality, And Thought Of Traditional Africa. Chicago: University press.) Discuss the African concept of extended self, which is particularly illustrative of the spiritual/material ontology: Self is extended to include all the ancestors, the yet unborn, all of nature, and the entire community. Also particular to this concept is that one’s being did not automatically make one a part of the community or at a latter date, entitle admission to the position of ancestor. Both positions require the proper consciousness (correct awareness according to the structure of the conceptual system based on harmony and order: Maat) evidenced through behavior and attitude (Asante 1986, Zahan 1979 The Religion, Spirituality, And Thought Of Traditional Africa. Chicago: University press.). The truth of one’s being had to be manifest.

In Afrocentric epistemology self-knowledge is the basis of all knowledge, and one acquires knowledge through symbolic imagery and rhythm. (all is symbolic of spirit manifested when harmony and balance is present) Nichols (1976 The Philosophical Aspects Of Cultural Differences. World Psychiatric Association, Ibadan, Nigeria, November.) Suggest that diunital logic (the union of opposites), yielding “both/and” conclusions, is the mode of reasoning that characterizes the system. Nutology-all sets are interrelated and interconnected through human and spiritual networks-is the process, or method, by which our goals will be achieved. Highest value is placed on positive interpersonal relationship (man/woman to man/woman)……………….”

Please note that I have added the reference material in brackets so that you may research them for your self if you desire to do so.

The breeze had died to a whispers all was silent.

a1000: By the content of your redundant syllabus,one can conclude that:
A: You are a racist.
B: A well read psuedo intellectual,unafraid to constantly para phrase someone else.
c: Probably believe in the Easter Bunny.

a1000: By the content of your redundant syllabus,one can conclude that:
A: You are a racist.
B: A well read psuedo intellectual,unafraid to constantly para phrase someone else.
c: Probably believe in the Easter Bunny.

did you mean a RESTORER,one who is metaphysically bold enough 2 listen 2 his ancestral callin,and patient enough 2 reach-back and recieve and kind enough 2 share and the courage 2 take-on the painstakin task of raisin the dead?:hammer:

Bi Nka Bi (Bite not one another) from the Wisdom of the Ashanti people.


It is a great moment, living, learning and playing with the community.


Now that I have the Mic:bouncy: I am recognizing my peeps in Flipmode Squad who didactically look at every issue from 360 degrees rotated through the z axis at 360 degrees. A word or two for my Granola Bar crunching, dirt worshiping, tree hugging Hippie comrades, along with those of the Rasta Nation,I am standing strong with you. The Five Block heads, and the Five Elements( Yet to be named) by your actions the reality of a new/old way of constructing reality comes forth. The Seventh generation, Those just reading, and general members Bi NKa Bi (Bite Not One another) a great way to live life in any epoch.:sailing:


did you mean a RESTORER,one who is metaphysically bold enough 2 listen 2 his ancestral callin,and patient enough 2 reach-back and recieve and kind enough 2 share and the courage 2 take-on the painstakin task of raisin the dead?

i-omega thanks:) for the affirmation and acknowledgement, which sometime in erudition are not explicit. Before I leave these greetings I am going to say a few thoughts, these are however not just my thoughts but are thoughts of a collective. Thus unlike the British I am saying that it is a we, and it is not the royal we in their world view. But In the acts of Affirmation and Acknowledgement we not only ratify others but we also ratify ourselves.

Why do start of this way? It is my Acknowledgement and Affirmation. I am Acknowledging those of my age grade set, elders, other age grades (See Destruction Of Black Civilization By Chancellor Williams on concept of age grade), those coming into the world and the ancestors. But my Acknowledgement dose not stop there, it encompasses the entire cosmos because in this new/old cultural paradigm is infused with UNICITY: The notion that oneness is the hidden law of the cosmos. Human beings, the Earth and the cosmos are conceived as interconnecting circles, or cycles within ever greater circles or cycles.



I remember listening to Clarke on a tape( see For Notes An African World Revolution by John H Clarke) said that everything that touches your life should be an instrument of your liberation, if it is not it should be discarded. Don’t get me wrong Block Heads and Dittzies play an important role in the primary defense of a Neo-Colony, yet their posturing should always be used in the Art of exposing the Neo-Colonial system and our relationship as a people to it, while simultaneously advancing the New/Old Cultural Paradigm, this is the Aikido of Mental engagement, which complements Chairman Mao The Proper Handling Of Contradiction Among The People. (If you have made it this far Rory I hope you now understand the correlations between the philosophy of Chairman Mao and The Neo-Colony called the Bahamas)

In My Acknowledgement I am expressing A- NOT logic function. One of the characteristics of the Neocolonialism is Linearity which is defined as:

“The interpretation of phenomena as being made up of unidimensional, separate entities arranged in sequential order. This conception is necessarily secular and results in desacralization. It denies circularity and the spiral of organic development. It prevents transcendence of ordinary time and space, thereby denying ancestral ontological experience.” see the Book YURUGU


Thus My Acknowledgement emphasizes the opposite of Linearity.

http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=2572&page=2 For exegesis of Acknowledgement and Affirmation see post# 28


This thread is The Essential Theory And Praxis Of National Culture, and one must bear in mind that the destruction of a culture/matrix/world view does not happen in one night. It is a journey, thus do not expect that you can simply read and dismiss this thread in one sitting. There are layers upon layers of experiences of reality here and what you receive from it depends on how committed you are to the process of freeing your mind. Referencing of multiple mediums is mandated as all are not connoisseurs of Literature.

Anthropocentrism? By that you mean - An inclination to evaluate reality exclusively in terms of human values? If that is what you mean then the answer must be, "sometimes yes, sometimes no." We live in a world where nature, spirituality and human values rule. I suppose one could try to live in just one of those but that is not realistic.
http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=2572&page=7

Anthropocentric, adj, 1. considering man to be the most significant entity of the universe. 2 interpreting or regarding the world in terms of human values and experiences. From Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary copyright 1981.


This is a dynamic exposition into Anthropocentrism by a comrade Valentina Campos from Bolivia, one of the epicenters of new/old world paradigm shifts and defense. Let her speak to you from her community to yours.

A warm greeting to you all; I hope this message finds you well.
These are some reflections that I would like to share with all of you, doing so in order to let you know what we are feeling, thinking, in regards to your elections there in the United States. Conversing with various companer@s we feel preoccupied about the ideological position of companer@s there in the North and we think that it’s urgent that we begin a dialogue, much more profound, in between all of us. I await your opinions and reflections, and will share them with all of my companer@s on this side.


It seems apparent, in my opinion, that the three options in response to colonization (referred to by Yvonne Dion Buffalo and John Mowhawk in “Thoughts From an Autoctonous Center: Postmodernism and Cultural Studies”) glimpsed in every part of the world , are prevalent in the latest direction of Bolivia; first, “the path of non-subjection”/ opting to be a “non-subject” which is directly at odds with the second, the most common direction of the world, that of the “good subjects”… always accepting the premises of the modern occidental world, thus in steady opposition with the third, the path of the “bad subjects”, those who are constantly rebelling inside the worlds colonized by the global market.


The Bolivian insurrection is an awakening in the face of this realization of…the intellectual and cultural colonization towards which your, the U.S., imperial paths push everyone.


The direction of the path of “non-subjection” has survived in the Andean communities in spite of many centuries of colonization. And this process of affirmation is still solidifying, in measured steps, as the “neoliberal” models and their lifesaving packets of progress fail. The reason isn’t simply the resistance per se. The success of the resistance of our peoples of the so-called “Third World” isn’t owed solely to a wild and unruly recklessness to resist the global undertaking of “development” (now discreetly renamed “Sustainable Development”), but rather to an internalized vision where, simply, the individualized, anthropocentric life does not hold sway over “La PachaMama” (Mother Earth).


That which impels us is not/are not the political parties, the movements, but rather a collective decentralized desire, reborn time and again, for decolonization, in the face of incalculable ecocide and ethnicide. This manifests itself in the cities with the re-encounter of more and more young people with autoctonous music, more and more people recreating pre-Hispanic rituals and celebrations, more and more people- young and old- returning to their rural communities, and more and more limiting their participation in the political systems that they have supported, giving themselves over to collective coexistence, recreating an urban “Ayni”(solidary and reciprocal community).


If the Andean towns and communities have been able to stand steadfast and consistent with their identity it is due to their integral cosmic vision and the dynamic of perceiving the connectedness of everything (La Pacha);considering the human community just one more group among the non-human community (the seeds, the plants, the rocks, animals, hills, stars, etc.), based upon the unbroken sacred-profane reciprocity among all the communities…where the exiled, isolated individual does not exist.


In many Andean communities, as in the past, they live by consensus. Without this they can’t speak of justice, liberty, democracy, and dignity. If we speak only of the latter we will never be able to arrive to the point of expounding not even one new proposal. These words, these notions, are more often than not turned into weapons. We shudder at the idea of U.S. democracy being exported to our communities.


In the communities nothing is ever done by democracy. Everything is done by consensus; everyone must be in agreement. As well the ancestral collective memory lives in the mentality of the urban folk and even in the chaos of La Paz and El Alto, the root of consensus is guarded. For example, it’s common that a group of people or a circle of friends will take a long time to make a decision that favors the group as a whole, as well as each individual, no matter whether or not it’s of great importance.


They don’t speak of justice, only of seeking equilibrium with nature and the cosmos, in a state of constant dialogue. Even less do they say “free” since everyone lives in a complimentary way, everything, everyone, bound together, no one or nothing loose, separate.


The most important is the human identity, in place of “dignity” of the capitalist society, where being dignified is to be individualist and competitive.
Meanwhile these days, the time of planting, the Andean communities are conversing in order to become more harmonized with all beings, human and non-human, so as to “criar y dejarse criar” ( to nurture and allow oneself to be nurtured).


In the United States, in the name of democracy, liberty, dignity, morals all are voting, re-voting, electing, re-electing, returning to vote again for the same capitalism that, from one candidate (or Emperor) or the other colonizes again and again, denigrating all of our communities.


Meanwhile our peoples are learning not to even try to act against the invader without harmonizing internally, affirming our culture, thereby cultivating the capacity to dismantle and deactivate the apparatuses of colonization.


In the countries of the “First World”, all continue in denial of their “responsibilities” as “good subjects”, re-electing, time and time again, the politicians and the politics of an individualist social organization of economic growth.


The incapacity of the citizens of the United States to recognize the role played in permitting the plans of the government- motivated by the desire for progress towards the “One World”- perpetuates the notion of “growth” and the missionary conscience that has a direct and debasing impact upon all of our human and non-human communities.


We all have access to that deeper wisdom, that spirit of consensus that can sustain struggles, even ones there in the middle of the Empire. There are no more illusions to cling to, and we, down here in the Andes, want to believe that you understand this there. We are all companer@s. We need to know that your struggles are harmonized with ours, that you see clearly what these struggles are. A lack of clarity opens up a path towards complicity, allowing for yet another devastating wave of colonization to crash down upon our communities.


With much respect, waiting to know of you all,
In solidarity,

Valentina Campos

Cochabamba, Bolivia

1 de Noviembre, 2004

A Brave New World, Uhurha



Sir Lynden O Pindling throws the Speakers Mace out the window, ushering in the nth Revolution. Metaphorically, follows Westminster’s, Privy Council, General Orders, GCE, City and Guilds, and the Speech From The Throne. We are looking at A Brave New World. (also the title of a book from Alex Huxley I recommend it)

People are singing and dancing in the street. A new old nation is born, Uhurha, land of freedom, cultural rebirth maintenance and defense.

A panoramic viewing of the nation; showing elders, adults, young becoming adults (the age grade sets) conversation. Sharing knowledge that’s breaking the five hundred year iron curtain called slavery. They are busy reworking historical values into the current matrix. Historical values, children are the life and wealth of the Nation. They are not to be discarded, abused or abandoned. They are the responsibility of all. Elders are the vessels of the sum knowledge of the nation, bridges to the past, links to the ancestors and divine. They are never discarded, abused or abandoned or euthanized. Adults are those who have made it through the age grade sets and the rights of passage. Inoculated with the living history of the people and is thus the first line of defense. They are advancing along with preserving the people using the principal of the Seventh Generation as a guide.

Government moves away from the centralized people alienating tendencies of the Western Asian/European model. It is government for the people by the people. Villages are replacing constituencies. People of the villages are getting together discussing their particular issues. They are Electing a spokes person to convey their message to the assembly of the villages.

We are looking at A Brave New World, Uhurha!

A Brave New World, Uhurha
Sir Lynden O Pindling throws the Speakers Mace out the window, ushering in the nth Revolution. Metaphorically, follows Westminster’s, Privy Council, General Orders, GCE, City and Guilds, and the Speech From The Throne. We are looking at A Brave New World. (also the title of a book from Alex Huxley I recommend it)
People are singing and dancing in the street. A new old nation is born, Uhurha, land of freedom, cultural rebirth maintenance and defense.
A panoramic viewing of the nation; showing elders, adults, young becoming adults (the age grade sets) conversation. Sharing knowledge that’s breaking the five hundred year iron curtain called slavery. They are busy reworking historical values into the current matrix. Historical values, children are the life and wealth of the Nation. They are not to be discarded, abused or abandoned. They are the responsibility of all. Elders are the vessels of the sum knowledge of the nation, bridges to the past, links to the ancestors and divine. They are never discarded, abused or abandoned or euthanized. Adults are those who have made it through the age grade sets and the rights of passage. Inoculated with the living history of the people and is thus the first line of defense. They are advancing along with preserving the people using the principal of the Seventh Generation as a guide.
Government moves away from the centralized people alienating tendencies of the Western Asian/European model. It is government for the people by the people. Villages are replacing constituencies. People of the villages are getting together discussing their particular issues. They are Electing a spokes person to convey their message to the assembly of the villages.
We are looking at A Brave New World, Uhurha!

your crazy!:hammer:

just when you thought it was safe to be ignat i am back with both guns loaded, with all my homees and we will set this sight right or should we say radical.:escape:

just when you thought it was safe to be ignat i am back with both guns loaded, with all my homees and we will set this sight right or should we say radical.:escape:


Okay, jackhole. Name your 'homees' so I can block them too

Okay, jackhole. Name your 'homees' so I can block them too



You are so silly, if you have us blocked why are you posting here, could it be that this is the only valid thread hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:hammer:

this thread is pwnd

Is this thread still going??
Good grief!!
:jawdroop:

Is this thread still going??
Good grief!!
:jawdroop:
Lol! Maybe the misfit has a point.

Some times you just have to step away from ones tread and look at other things.

Namaste all.

I would like for you to reflect on the words of Valentiena Campos in bolivia as they fit into the frame work of the national culture that i an others are prposing:

We all have access to that deeper wisdom, that spirit of consensus that can sustain struggles, even ones there in the middle of the Empire. There are no more illusions to cling to, and we, down here in the Andes, want to believe that you understand this there. We are all companer@s. We need to know that your struggles are harmonized with ours, that you see clearly what these struggles are. A lack of clarity opens up a path towards complicity, allowing for yet another devastating wave of colonization to crash down upon our communities.


It is of vital importance that we are able to see the threads that unite the various world communities together and how are action or inaction effects the world. As some of you prepare for the shams of elections remember that the fnm and the plp are both sides of the same coin.:sailing: