with a sound reputaion (that will follow you because everyone will be talking about "dis lawyer that I got" while being a strong advocate for your clients girl youll clean up here!

thanks....but like a few others have mentioned on this site...i think i'm quite young. i really feel like i should get some more int'l experience first. you know how nassauis boi! once you der, ya der fa good!

I know I latta than a Bahamasair flight. but i have to say a "white xmas" sucks.the cold weather, the physical cold, car handles freezing, sometimes breaking off. yall know how much that spit cost to fix? car doors freeze, xpensive heating cost, ice on the roads, car accidents, always rescheduling crap, cuase a snow. thats y i flock to the BA or FL. nothin like thanksgiving dinner poolside, I can not wait till I can move south.

On the real Moon, follow ur personal happiness. EVEN if it is money. My only advice to you is if ur going to be in the bahamas and almost everyday you wake up you think about life in England or life somewhere else or if you constantly draw references to your former lifestyle. ie in england i could have done this or this would happen this way. then u will never be fully happy or feel completly satisfied somewhere other than where ur heart is.

UR HAPPYNESS AND FULFILMENT FIRST.

I've found, generally speaking, its people that have never been poor that go around spewing garbage like 'money isn't everything'. When your lights are off and your children are hungry it is. I used to live in Kemp Road off of Sutton Street next to St. Bede's in a little wooden shack that leaned in whichever direction the wind blew. I'm only 30 years old but I remember using outside toilets like it was yesterday. Roasting corn on three rocks. Taking baths in tin tubs. Or walking miles to the pump for fresh water.

My contribution to the Bahamas has already been made. I've lost most of my family and friends. You know poverty when you can't afford a birthday party because you have to save money for the funeral.

Why should I sacrifice more?? All those people I know that died, did so expecting me to live a better life.

If you expect people to come back who've worked harder than you, that are smarter than you, who've sacrificed more than you and be happy with being your subordinate for the rest of their lives expecting heaven to come on the day you feel that you are tired of being rich....then you are in for a rude awakening.

In order for you to be successful, you need a base of successful people willing to patronize your business. It they aren't there, then you'll eventually have a problem. So far drugs and crime have allowed the Bahamas to maintain itself. But eventually drug dealers get locked up or killed -- same with crack heads. Its not a dependable client base.

...and I'm just as patriotic as the next man, but when I feel betrayed or let down by my country and countrymen. Patriotism is second to feeding my belly.

I've found, generally speaking, its people that have never been poor that go around spewing garbage like 'money isn't everything'. When your lights are off and your children are hungry it is. I used to live in Kemp Road off of Sutton Street next to St. Bede's in a little wooden shack that leaned in whichever direction the wind blew. I'm only 30 years old but I remember using outside toilets like it was yesterday. Roasting corn on three rocks. Taking baths in tin tubs. Or walking miles to the pump for fresh water.
My contribution to the Bahamas has already been made. I've lost most of my family and friends. You know poverty when you can't afford a birthday party because you have to save money for the funeral.
Why should I sacrifice more?? All those people I know that died, did so expecting me to live a better life.
If you expect people to come back who've worked harder than you, that are smarter than you, who've sacrificed more than you and be happy with being your subordinate for the rest of their lives expecting heaven to come on the day you feel that you are tired of being rich....then you are in for a rude awakening.
In order for you to be successful, you need a base of successful people willing to patronize your business. It they aren't there, then you'll eventually have a problem. So far drugs and crime have allowed the Bahamas to maintain itself. But eventually drug dealers get locked up or killed -- same with crack heads. Its not a dependable client base.
...and I'm just as patriotic as the next man, but when I feel betrayed or let down by my country and countrymen. Patriotism is second to feeding my belly.

I don't think anyone was suggesting that one should live in poverty! Poverty stinks! A person does have a duty to one's family, and indeed to oneself. If that means leaving then one has to leave but one should, after they have "made it" return to help others out of the poverty so many claim to hate.

You say, "My contribution to the Bahamas has already been made. I've lost most of my family and friends." I would ask, "Who has not?"

You also said, "Why should I sacrifice more??" I would ask, "Why not?"

As for your opening remark, "I've found, generally speaking, its people that have never been poor that go around spewing garbage like 'money isn't everything'." It has been my experience that it is those without money that generally says that money is everything. Money is a great help, we need it but it is not everything. Love, family, friends, duty, come closer to "everything." After all, how many $ does one really need? :)

Ok. I've held my "tongue" as long as I could (man, that was hard)

I've learned, lived and worked abroad and I've been home now for the past 6 years.

And I might be headed back again...soon.

Yes, it is up to us, the younger generation, to bring our skills back home, but no one ever tells us the truth about the nonsense that goes on in this little country.

I'll save my experiences for another time, but let's just say that the level of professional respect for younger persons in this country is virtually non-existent. Trying to pave your way in your chosen field only leads to older persons smiling and nodding in your face while they suck on your talent for as long as they can without proper compensation or reward.

Having the right family name is good, but when you happen to be vocal against and independent of the consensus trance which plagues this nation, you will end up feeling like you're banging your head against a wall. It's frustrating, to say the least.

Moon Angel, continue your experiences gal - Travel, work, live and love. I'll be the first to tell you not to come back until you are absolutely sure that you have gotten your fill of the rest of the world. Then, let your heart guide you home.

My years back here haven't been a waste, but I'm just glad that I'm strong enough to be able to consider picking up and leaving again. I really don't know yet though - Home is always home.

The warning signs of things that are going to happen in this country during the upcoming years are clear. The problem is that we Bahamians get too much sun in our eyes to see the truth.

One thing: If you do come back home, make sure to keep your shades on.

Ok. I've held my "tongue" as long as I could (man, that was hard)

I've learned, lived and worked abroad and I've been home now for the past 6 years.

And I might be headed abroad again...soon.

Yes, it is up to us, the younger generation, to bring our skills back home, but no one ever tells us the truth about the nonsense that goes on in this little country.

I'll save my experiences for another time, but let's just say that the level of professional respect for younger persons in this country is virtually non-existent. Trying to pave your way in your chosen field only leads to older persons smiling and nodding in your face while they suck on your talent for as long as they can without proper compensation or reward.

Having the right family name is good, but when you happen to be vocal and independent of the consensus trance which plagues this nation, you will end up feeling like you're banging your head against a wall. It's frustrating, to say the least.

Moon Angel, continue your experiences gal - Travel, work, live and love. I'll be the first to tell you not to come back until you are absolutely sure that you have gotten your fill of the rest of the world. Then let your heart guide you home.

My years back here haven't been a waste, but I'm just glad that I'm strong enough to be able to consider picking up and leaving again. I really don't know yet though - Home is always home.

The warning signs of things that are going to happen in this country in the upcoming years are clear. The problem is that we Bahamians get too much sun in our eyes to see the truth.

One thing: If you do come back home, make sure to keep your shades on.

i was wondering where you were! your words mean alot, and are along the same lines as everyone else i spoke to. yep, moving home is still an option, but if another opportunity comes up i will definitely take it! what scares me is all my friends and family telling me i need to 'settle down' and stop 'roamin the world'! now, dont get me wrong, at 27, i feel quite young. not married. no kids. because im not following the 'traditional path' of my peers (ie: qualify and then going home to work in Graham T, Higgs & Johnson, etc), noone quite understands my ambitions. my ambitions exceed a domestic legal career in civil law. but thats my problem, and i know what i want to achieve...but why is it, that when i am abroad, 27 is SO young??? It's when your life actually starts. when you finish studying, when you have a salary and can enjoy life before a husband and kids! When i go home, at 27 I feel like an old woman! very old. all my friends are settled, married, 3 kids, mortgages....OMG! it scares me that at such a young age, people can have such responsibilites - especially when these days, you finish your studies and get your career going at 30! :eek:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3565421.stm
interesting article discussing how many educated africans are leaving the continent for europe/n. america. i know this isnt a new issue, but do you see this as a serious issue facing our country? are there really so many of us that leave home and never come back? i'm playing with the idea of moving home, but the prospect terrifies me. that might sound stupid, but the longer you are away from home, the harder it might be to re-adjust. of course home is always home, but well...so anyway, any thoughts on this?

Abaskan-Moon-Angel, seems like you suffer from the Anja Nichole Syndrome, I wrote these responses under Bahamian students seeks job at home, but the ideas are applicable to your thread. Another example of lack of national cultural awareness, which is why we really need to ban our students from going abroad until they have been properly educated. I strongly believe that the government should fine every student/citizen who goes abroad for 12 months or more and comes back looking for a job or mentally confused, a fine of $500 dollars a month until they straighten them selves up, that will keep the reactionaries out of the country.

I just have to pay respect to my peeps in Flipmode Squad, My Country Folk, Those Five Block Heads (CG, Cuasual Observer, Yorick Brown, Rory and newest enrollee Tafadhali) , my granola bar crunching tree hugging dirt worshipping Hippie Comrades standing together and the seventh generation; to all Namaste.

Sapadilly: have you been in the company of Flipmode Squad? I enjoyed reading your post, its great knowing that there are others exploring the works of Franz Fanon. It interesting that you mention his name, as I am working on a study of leadership and changing mind set, along with rereading his material as reference.
I have been looking at the concept of what is called higher education for almost 20 years now, and I have come to the conclusion that the best solution is a moratorium. I don’t know how long it would last but I do believe that the revolution of the philosophy of education is a major undertaking. It will not be just aimed at the youth but it will be aimed at each level of society at its very core would be mandatory:
1. Critical thinking skills
2. World history studies, with special attention placed on Africa and the Carrie bean,
3. Language studies, (Yoruba, wolfed, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese are examples)
4. Mental and physical wellness
5. Martial arts
6. Citizenship redefine
7. Law
8. Cultural Maintence and defence
9 A new economic model
10 memory skills


These are the new key areas of this revolutionary educational shift, the moratorium is mandatory as it will allow our people at all levels time to grasp the deeper vision of the new society. The more I open myself up to the idea the more beautiful it becomes, but our people have to be able access various techniques but still maintain their cultural center. What we receive in universities are techniques, under are present system of education they call it education, I am saying that its not it’s the learning of techniques whether it be engineering, medicine, veterinarian medicine these are techniques this is what we have to instill in our people. These techniques do not come with out their cultural bias and one has to be able to strip that from the technique, therefore we cannot have our people interacting in the world from a position of naivety. As a people this new shift will allow us to use our time in a much more effective way, when one travels the path of being a student, ones mind is orientated in such a way that you are finding direct application of ones technique to society, you are constantly seeking out others in your field building professional acquaintances.

Let us take a student say Anna Nichole and let’s say she has undergone this educational shift, she leaves and attends MIT to study mechanical engineering for 6 years at the end of which she will receive her PHD. Her actions would be finding other mechanical engineers building relationships with them learning from their years of experiences. She would have an idea of what is needed in the country, or what type of industry she wishes to bring into existence, thus she would be accessing persons who have carried out the task that she wishes. Not only would Anna Nichole be building relationships with professionals in her field but she would be building relationship among her peers, as she realizes that they can assist her and she them in their respective developments.

However the only way I see we can develop Anna Nichole is to pace that moratorium on higher levels of ignorance (they call it education) so that the time can be devoted to developing in these new students this grand vision of the Bahamas. Once again I say place a moratorium on higher levels of ignorance and do it now. This should be the call of every citizen, we cannot continue to participate in the world in this manner.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3565421.stm
interesting article discussing how many educated africans are leaving the continent for europe/n. america. i know this isnt a new issue, but do you see this as a serious issue facing our country? are there really so many of us that leave home and never come back? i'm playing with the idea of moving home, but the prospect terrifies me. that might sound stupid, but the longer you are away from home, the harder it might be to re-adjust. of course home is always home, but well...so anyway, any thoughts on this?

Abaskan-Moon-Angel, seems like you suffer from the Anja Nichole Syndrome, I wrote these responses under Bahamian students seeks job at home, but the ideas are applicable to your thread. Another example of lack of national cultural awareness, which is why we really need to ban our students from going abroad until they have been properly educated. I strongly believe that the government should fine every student/citizen who goes abroad for 12 months or more and comes back looking for a job or mentally confused, a fine of $500 dollars a month until they straighten them selves up, that will keep the reactionaries out of the country.

I just have to pay respect to my peeps in Flipmode Squad, My Country Folk, Those Five Block Heads (CG, Cuasual Observer, Yorick Brown, Rory and newest enrollee Tafadhali) , my granola bar crunching tree hugging dirt worshipping Hippie Comrades standing together and the seventh generation; to all Namaste.

Sapadilly: have you been in the company of Flipmode Squad? I enjoyed reading your post, its great knowing that there are others exploring the works of Franz Fanon. It interesting that you mention his name, as I am working on a study of leadership and changing mind set, along with rereading his material as reference.
I have been looking at the concept of what is called higher education for almost 20 years now, and I have come to the conclusion that the best solution is a moratorium. I don’t know how long it would last but I do believe that the revolution of the philosophy of education is a major undertaking. It will not be just aimed at the youth but it will be aimed at each level of society at its very core would be mandatory:
1. Critical thinking skills
2. World history studies, with special attention placed on Africa and the Carrie bean,
3. Language studies, (Yoruba, wolfed, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese are examples)
4. Mental and physical wellness
5. Martial arts
6. Citizenship redefine
7. Law
8. Cultural Maintence and defence
9 A new economic model
10 memory skills


These are the new key areas of this revolutionary educational shift, the moratorium is mandatory as it will allow our people at all levels time to grasp the deeper vision of the new society. The more I open myself up to the idea the more beautiful it becomes, but our people have to be able access various techniques but still maintain their cultural center. What we receive in universities are techniques, under are present system of education they call it education, I am saying that its not it’s the learning of techniques whether it be engineering, medicine, veterinarian medicine these are techniques this is what we have to instill in our people. These techniques do not come with out their cultural bias and one has to be able to strip that from the technique, therefore we cannot have our people interacting in the world from a position of naivety. As a people this new shift will allow us to use our time in a much more effective way, when one travels the path of being a student, ones mind is orientated in such a way that you are finding direct application of ones technique to society, you are constantly seeking out others in your field building professional acquaintances.

Let us take a student say Anna Nichole and let’s say she has undergone this educational shift, she leaves and attends MIT to study mechanical engineering for 6 years at the end of which she will receive her PHD. Her actions would be finding other mechanical engineers building relationships with them learning from their years of experiences. She would have an idea of what is needed in the country, or what type of industry she wishes to bring into existence, thus she would be accessing persons who have carried out the task that she wishes. Not only would Anna Nichole be building relationships with professionals in her field but she would be building relationship among her peers, as she realizes that they can assist her and she them in their respective developments.

However the only way I see we can develop Anna Nichole is to pace that moratorium on higher levels of ignorance (they call it education) so that the time can be devoted to developing in these new students this grand vision of the Bahamas. Once again I say place a moratorium on higher levels of ignorance and do it now. This should be the call of every citizen, we cannot continue to participate in the world in this manner.

I just have to pay respect to my peeps in Flipmode Squad, My Country Folk, Those Five Block Heads (CG, Cuasual Observer, Yorick Brown, Rory and newest enrollee Tafadhali)

I have nothing more to say to you, so take my name out of your posts!

Spread your communist propaganda as you please, but do not reference my name any further.

Consider yourself warned.

You have posted this before and I wanted to add my comments. Now is as good a time as any.
It will not be just aimed at the youth but it will be aimed at each level of society at its very core would be mandatory:
Don't like the word "mandatory." If these things are good, and many are, just teach them. People will see the wisdom in them.
1. Critical thinking skills
OK!
2. World history studies, with special attention placed on Africa and the Carrie bean,
Without doubt a valuable thing. When I was in school the History of Africa (from the Black perspective, was never taught.) The History of the whole Carribean as covered in half an hour!
3. Language studies, (Yoruba, wolfed, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese are examples)
A second, third, or even fourth language is always valuable.
4. Mental and physical wellness
But of cource.
5. Martial arts
Used to teach them my self, so I agree.
6. Citizenship redefine
Proberly better to define it first.
7. Law
Yes indeed!
8. Cultural Maintence and defence
We fall down here badly.
9 A new economic model
Based on what?
10 memory skills
Very critical.

I could get behind your 10 points but to make them mandatory? No.

Abaskan-Moon-Angel, seems like you suffer from the Anja Nichole Syndrome, I wrote these responses under Bahamian students seeks job at home, but the ideas are applicable to your thread. Another example of lack of national cultural awareness, which is why we really need to ban our students from going abroad until they have been properly educated. I strongly believe that the government should fine every student/citizen who goes abroad for 12 months or more and comes back looking for a job or mentally confused, a fine of $500 dollars a month until they straighten them selves up, that will keep the reactionaries out of the country.
I just have to pay respect to my peeps in Flipmode Squad, My Country Folk, Those Five Block Heads (CG, Cuasual Observer, Yorick Brown, Rory and newest enrollee Tafadhali) , my granola bar crunching tree hugging dirt worshipping Hippie Comrades standing together and the seventh generation; to all Namaste.
Sapadilly: have you been in the company of Flipmode Squad? I enjoyed reading your post, its great knowing that there are others exploring the works of Franz Fanon. It interesting that you mention his name, as I am working on a study of leadership and changing mind set, along with rereading his material as reference.
I have been looking at the concept of what is called higher education for almost 20 years now, and I have come to the conclusion that the best solution is a moratorium. I don’t know how long it would last but I do believe that the revolution of the philosophy of education is a major undertaking. It will not be just aimed at the youth but it will be aimed at each level of society at its very core would be mandatory:
1. Critical thinking skills
2. World history studies, with special attention placed on Africa and the Carrie bean,
3. Language studies, (Yoruba, wolfed, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese are examples)

:confused: um question: how can we learn the highlighted languages if we cannot leave the country?

I have nothing more to say to you, so take my name out of your posts!
Spread your communist propaganda as you please, but do not reference my name any further.
Consider yourself warned.

He calls me a blockhead to! Not the worst I have been called - I'll live!:)

You have posted this before and I wanted to add my comments. Now is as good a time as any.
Don't like the word "mandatory." If these things are good, and many are, just teach them. People will see the wisdom in them.
OK!
Without doubt a valuable thing. When I was in school the History of Africa (from the Black perspective, was never taught.) The History of the whole Carribean as covered in half an hour!
A second, third, or even fourth language is always valuable.
But of cource.
Used to teach them my self, so I agree.
Proberly better to define it first.
Yes indeed!
We fall down here badly.
Based on what?
Very critical.
I could get behind your 10 points but to make them mandatory? No.

Ok CG i see we are in agreement but you dont like the word mandatory, then how would you go about the process?

Abiskan-moon Angel languages? I learnt spanish in school with out ever leaving the island, but more importantly you have missed the point in your own dittsy way.

YorkBrown lol, I call them as i see them, nananananananaaa as CG has said he lives so will you.


Ok CG I know you are a thinker so enligten me on how this progam can be carried out in the bahamas on a national scale?

Ok CG i see we are in agreement but you dont like the word mandatory, then how would you go about the process?
Abiskan-moon Angel languages? I learnt spanish in school with out ever leaving the island, but more importantly you have missed the point in your own dittsy way.
YorkBrown lol, I call them as i see them, nananananananaaa as CG has said he lives so will you.
Ok CG I know you are a thinker so enligten me on how this progam can be carried out in the bahamas on a national scale?


:gi: no need to get all touchy! and im sorry, but you must have quite shi!t spanish then, because you cannot learn a foreign language fluently without spending time with native speakers. shows how much you actually know. and now that we are on the point of your 'knowledge', or lack thereof, the fact that your comments are ridiculous proves WHY people should be allowed to study abroad! :mad:

:gi: no need to get all touchy! and im sorry, but you must have quite shi!t spanish then, because you cannot learn a foreign language fluently without spending time with native speakers. shows how much you actually know. and now that we are on the point of your 'knowledge', or lack thereof, the fact that your comments are ridiculous proves WHY people should be allowed to study abroad! :mad:



As` i have said in your own dittsy way you have missed the point. yes i did learn spanish at home, and what is great about it is that i use that knowledge gained in school to communicate with my compadres from mexico and other parts of south america, i did not have to go abroad to learn the language. in addition i also had began a study of arabic at home as well , and would have gone on to chinese one of my favorites at home, right in nassau no computer either just old fashion brain power, i dont think they give that out much these days.

Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Dittzy stikes again.

what is the point?

It is that students are going abroad with out being imparted with a sense of national culture, that before we have any more students go abroad we must impart in them this national culture, then they should go where ever they need to go. do you get it now? that is the underlying premise of my argument, which is why i wrote in your own dittzy way you have miss the point.

No more empty headed students going abroad to study with out a national culture instilled in them, or if you cannot get that concept then,language boarder,and culture is what every student must be proficent in. these are the base of a nation.

Free your mind.