*YOU* brought up race, remember?? You tried to use it earlier. .
Only by pointing out this was a so called Black nation.

No you don't. You work for your clients. I'm certain that you don't make products or provide services for you to buy, right?? So you work for somebody else. You may be self-employed, but that's different.
I don't sell a product. But you are right, I am self-employed + semi-retired.

LOL. Oh yes it does. Maybe a lesson in economics might serve you well. But as long as you live in the Bahamas, your income depends on me. And other Bahamians. You don't live in a vaccuum..

How can it depend on you? You are not here!

Only by pointing out this was a so called Black nation.

You are so modest. It was more sophisticated than that. It was an attempt to irritate that little tick of insecurity that most blacks have that are not accustomed to being considered and/or treated like a minority.


I don't sell a product. But you are right, I am self-employed + semi-retired.

Then you don't work. A service is a product.


How can it depend on you? You are not here!


I'm still a Bahamian citizen. I can vote.

You are so modest. It was more sophisticated than that. It was an attempt to irritate that little tick of insecurity that most blacks have that are not accustomed to being considered and/or treated like a minority.
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Then you don't work. A service is a product.
So it is, but it is more a service.

I'm still a Bahamian citizen. I can vote.

So can I. But why would you want too? You have cast your lot else where. Is there such a thing as a Bahamian Absentee ballot?

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In your response you said that you wanted to understand why a black bahamian would prefer being opened to racism in another country when he can live in the Bahamas without such fear. Its an intricate little ploy if you think about it. Being caucasian I'm assuming you can't appreciate it -- but I can. Its the Uncle Tom mechanism. The Uncle Tom's are the ones willing to sell out. Meaning sacrificing values and identity for money. Its pretty easy to trigger the Uncle Tom mechanism. You just set up a scenario -- as you did -- where the dilemma of choosing between money and self-respect were at odds. And bingo!!!!! The Uncle Tom mechanism is activated.


So it is, nut it is more a service.

Doesn't matter. The economy is integrated. Adverse conditions affect you as they affect me.


So can I. But why would you want too? You have cast your lot else where. Is there such a thing as a Bahamian Absentee ballot?


Yes, I know you can. Problem is. The problem directly affects me and more people like me. You are the minority -- not because you are of a different race. Moreso because there are more people that feel like me than you. I vote so that hopefully the Bahamas can be some place that I would be willing to return to. I still stay on top of the events.

In your response you said that you wanted to understand why a black bahamian would prefer being opened to racism in another country when he can live in the Bahamas without such fear. Its an intricate little ploy if you think about it. Being caucasian I'm assuming you can't appreciate it -- but I can. Its the Uncle Tom mechanism. The Uncle Tom's are the ones willing to sell out. Meaning sacrificing values and identity for money. Its pretty easy to trigger the Uncle Tom mechanism. You just set up a scenario -- as you did -- where the dilemma of choosing between money and self-respect were at odds. And bingo!!!!! The Uncle Tom mechanism is activated.
Doesn't matter. The economy is integrated. Adverse conditions affect you as they affect me.
Yes, I know you can. Problem is. The problem directly affects me and more people like me. You are the minority -- not because you are of a different race. Moreso because there are more people that feel like me than you. I vote so that hopefully the Bahamas can be some place that I would be willing to return to. I still stay on top of the events.

We seem to be going around in circles! You want the $$$. That is fine, at least you know what you want and have set your mind to getting it. I respect that. It is just a shame that you can't seem to do it here, in the land of your birth. I believe, or at least hope, you could but if you don't see it that way, for whatever reason, that is ultimately up to you. I wish you the best of luck and I hold no hard feeling towards you. In the end, we must all do what we see as the right thing. :tup:

brain drain doesnt only exist in the bahamas, africa etc. it exist in any enviroment that just cant meet the standards of persons that worked hard to get a higher education, it exist even in America.

people earn a higher education for the most part to have a better life. there is little chance of the majority of educated folks stayin in enviroments where they cant get paid (money aint everything but it is nice to have it, its nice not to worry about how ur bills going to be paid). they wont stay where they cant land a good job with incentives, benefits, and most importantly room to grow, they want a nice house, car(s), and a good enviroment for their kids, an enviroment they can feel safe in or at least one where they can afford safety (i hear rory dont come cheap), a place with adequate social arena's etc. If an enviroment doesnt have these thing the brain drain will continue.

anyway heres an aritcle on the brain drain in sections of america:

Herman Trend Alert: Reversing the Brain Drain
November 16, 2005

Many communities have experienced the exodus of their young graduates. This mass
departure hurts economic development as well as the state and federal support
that these areas receive.

Some communities are taking steps to reverse the situation---to attract
graduates back to the local or regional economies. One of the areas implementing
a plan is the Economy 2020 Action Team in North Central Illinois. Built to
benefit the LaSalle, Bureau, Putnam, and Lee County region, the Brain Drain
Database is a compilation of the local graduating high school seniors and
graduating students from Sauk Valley and Illinois Valley Community Colleges who
are interested in following the progress of the area “with an eye towards moving
back.”

The program is the result of a Community Audit conducted in 2004 and 2005. This
audit examined the challenges of making the region competitive for what are
referred to as “New Economy Jobs.” The initiative began by soliciting interest
from the graduating students. The survey garnered information about where the
people planned to go, what they expected to be doing, what they liked and
appreciated about their hometowns as well as what they considered the region’s
biggest drawbacks.

Armed with this information, local communities can better attract and hold their
young people. For years now, the State of Iowa has conducted an effective effort
to reverse this devastating trend. Iowa’s Governor Tom Vilsack regularly travels
to Chicago and Los Angeles to host events for dislocated Iowans. In fact,
earlier this year, Iowa announced a $6 Million advertising campaign to promote
their quality of life.

But this effort to stem the Brain Drain has been launched by countries as well.
Recognizing that their best and brightest had chosen to stay in the United
States after earning graduate degrees, India and other countries have made
concentrated efforts to woo back their graduates with the promise of higher
living standards with the comfort and security of their home countries, not to
mention the value of being able to stay close to family.

:cop: thanks B-Boy for interjecting it that interesting, (but ongoing) electronic dialogue between Mikki and CG! hey where's Vicky these days? :heartbeat

hey where's Vicky these days?


im curious too .. i hope he-she is okay ..
vicky if you're lurking make a noise at least

hey where's Vicky these days? :heartbeat

I was wondering the same thing. She mussy at convention eh?

I was wondering the same thing. She mussy at convention eh?

:what:

I thought she said she would be recovering from some surgical procedure.

Hi all no surgery my wife has been under the weather a lot of pms pain up to 2 and 3 weeks at a time. Drs say they don't see anything. It was her birthday on Tues the 15 and we did nothing but cuddle, as she was not up to going anywhere or doing anything. Dad is getting weaker and weaker his appetite in going down fast. Was real busy with the Alliance as we planed an event in October 22 and it went off well.

Thank you all for caring (mean that)

I am also down in heart as this is going to be the frist holiday that Mom and Dad won't be together as she is stuck in Canada for the rest of her life because of dialysis. I wish I could zip myself intwo

Again thank you all.

Hi all no surgery my wife has been under the weather a lot of pms pain up to 2 and 3 weeks at a time. Drs say they don't see anything. It was her birthday on Tues the 15 and we did nothing but cuddle, as she was not up to going anywhere or doing anything. Dad is getting weaker and weaker his appetite in going down fast. Was real busy with the Alliance as we planed an event in October 22 and it went off well.
Thank you all for caring (mean that)
I am also down in heart as this is going to be the frist holiday that Mom and Dad won't be together as she is stuck in Canada for the rest of her life because of dialysis. I wish I could zip myself intwo
Again thank you all.

glad to know you are well! :o

I vote so that hopefully the Bahamas can be some place that I would be willing to return to. I still stay on top of the events.

Now that is kashanga. You don't build a nation by flying in for one day and scratch an x on a piece of paper every few years. That is the brain drain right now. That is a total and absolute copout. Change is made by living the example and teaching others it is a form of humble pride in ones self, others and country.

Those in my trade barley scratch out a living I would be way better of in a bigger country I mean way better off. Foreigners provide product in my trade and Bahamian merchants like it like that. One day I cornered one of the merchants that bought 6 of this and 6 of that while she bought gross of this and gross of that from foreigner and it was delivered the same day I took mine down. I confronted her right then and there. "I know your this and that is better quality and better price but if I give you that kind of business you could become my competition". I have proven this over and over again.
We have been robbed at gunpoint twice and has set us back worse that square 1. We are still in recovery of the last robbery. Yeah I know insurance that is another story.

With all that is against me gender and trade wise I am still here this is my home. I will live the change of attitude not run from it.

Hi all no surgery my wife has been under the weather a lot of pms pain up to 2 and 3 weeks at a time. Drs say they don't see anything. It was her birthday on Tues the 15 and we did nothing but cuddle, as she was not up to going anywhere or doing anything. Dad is getting weaker and weaker his appetite in going down fast. Was real busy with the Alliance as we planed an event in October 22 and it went off well.
Thank you all for caring (mean that)
I am also down in heart as this is going to be the frist holiday that Mom and Dad won't be together as she is stuck in Canada for the rest of her life because of dialysis. I wish I could zip myself intwo
Again thank you all.

You are in my thoughts and meditations, and I am sure, in the prayers of others. :angel: