Anyone seen any of the Pindlings at the PLP convention?

NO i haven't seen them as yet ...guess Lady P them are also fed up with Perry
and his nonsense.....also he is not half the leader sir Lynden was ...I am also told former MP Philip B did not attend because he too is disappointed in the performance of this Goverment.

Junkanoo shuffle and hot air will not get the job done.:dancer:

Really now, who cares where Marguerite and her brood are during this convention?

They were there for emotional and moral support to former PM, Sir. L.O., certainly not as allies. His daughter Michelle does a competent job as Senator (no scandals, shows up and votes) and that is the limit of their political delving.

Really, no past, current or future PM should be compared to Sir L.O. as he was the country's leader in the most critical stages of our development. Most or all of the social and economic policies that are in place today were developed and implemented during his administration. The task for future leaders is to build on that record.

Now, comparing records and real stats, it becomes very clear that the current administration has indeed done more for the betterment of Bahamians than the previous FNM administration.

And another thing, the style of inclusive leadership that the PLP employs can never be matched by any FNM administration. It is against their character to be inclusive.

We may balk at the housing initiative, but I tell you that to a single mother who for the past 18 years had to drag her trunk and china closet - children in tow - around the city to countless sub-standard rentals, this initiative is a God-send.

It is pointless to argue points of leadership capabilities when we only engage our emotions. I like Tommy, he is FNM so they must be the best.....Christie sure can dance and the PLP does have some good parties, so I is PLP....

Prevalent in advanced societies are the policies established and working to care for the disadvantaged, protecting property and advancing the status of all its citizens. Which party do you think does this best? Before you dare to answer, consider the record:

In 3 years this PLP administration has provided 16 X more homes for low income families than the previous FNM administration had done in 9.5 years; repatriated 8 X more illegal immigrants; provided social assistance for 9 X more indigent families; added 4 X more first response emergency personnel and 7 X nursing positions; increased pension payment amounts, indexed to inflation; introduced employment insurance and let's not even delve into the improvements being made to infrastructure and society in general through the Urban Renewal project.

This is not to say that the FNM administration did nothing...they championed foreign investment, but the average Bahamian saw no improvement in their standard of living, security or future prospects. The FNM is all about big business where the rich get richer....The PLP is concerned with the people.

Simply put: FNM > Market driven, fiscal conservative, capitalists
PLP > Social liberals, empowering nation builders

WHAT DOES THE BAHAMAS NEED NOW?

Really now, who cares where Marguerite and her brood are during this convention?
They were there for emotional and moral support to former PM, Sir. L.O., certainly not as allies. His daughter Michelle does a competent job as Senator (no scandals, shows up and votes) and that is the limit of their political delving.
Really, no past, current or future PM should be compared to Sir L.O. as he was the country's leader in the most critical stages of our development. Most or all of the social and economic policies that are in place today were developed and implemented during his administration. The task for future leaders is to build on that record.
Now, comparing records and real stats, it becomes very clear that the current administration has indeed done more for the betterment of Bahamians than the previous FNM administration.
And another thing, the style of inclusive leadership that the PLP employs can never be matched by any FNM administration. It is against their character to be inclusive.
We may balk at the housing initiative, but I tell you that to a single mother who for the past 18 years had to drag her trunk and china closet - children in tow - around the city to countless sub-standard rentals, this initiative is a God-send.
It is pointless to argue points of leadership capabilities when we only engage our emotions. I like Tommy, he is FNM so they must be the best.....Christie sure can dance and the PLP does have some good parties, so I is PLP....
Prevalent in advanced societies are the policies established and working to care for the disadvantaged, protecting property and advancing the status of all its citizens. Which party do you think does this best? Before you dare to answer, consider the record:
In 3 years this PLP administration has provided 16 X more homes for low income families than the previous FNM administration had done in 9.5 years; repatriated 8 X more illegal immigrants; provided social assistance for 9 X more indigent families; added 4 X more first response emergency personnel and 7 X nursing positions; increased pension payment amounts, indexed to inflation; introduced employment insurance and let's not even delve into the improvements being made to infrastructure and society in general through the Urban Renewal project.
This is not to say that the FNM administration did nothing...they championed foreign investment, but the average Bahamian saw no improvement in their standard of living, security or future prospects. The FNM is all about big business where the rich get richer....The PLP is concerned with the people.
Simply put: FNM > Market driven, fiscal conservative, capitalists
PLP > Social liberals, empowering nation builders
WHAT DOES THE BAHAMAS NEED NOW?



They need you at Bahamas Information Services hey?

I does tell too much trute for dem....

Jessup you must be young. I would suggest you check out this link as it pertains to economic policy and from whence it came and is still the basis for today. Enjoy and be enlightened,
[URL=http://www.centralbankbahamas.com/publications.lasso?id=10249&cmd=view[/URL]

'Runner, you must have been leaning on that rum bottle a bit too much that you missed the point of my discourse.

Certainly you would not suggest that each and every person in the Bahamian electorate to go research your illusive 'economic policy' document?

Or haven't you heard 'Talk is cheap - money buy land.' The proof is on record and in the statistics - This PLP administration has made more positive advances for the Bahamas and the Bahamian people in 42 months than the FNM government did in 100 months - that's 3 years to 9 years.

What does your 'economic policy' have to say about those facts?

'Runner, you must have been leaning on that rum bottle a bit too much that you missed the point of my discourse.
Certainly you would not suggest that each and every person in the Bahamian electorate to go research your illusive 'economic policy' document?
Or haven't you heard 'Talk is cheap - money buy land.' The proof is on record and in the statistics - This PLP administration has made more positive advances for the Bahamas and the Bahamian people in 42 months than the FNM government did in 100 months - that's 3 years to 9 years.
What does your 'economic policy' have to say about those facts?


dude you give new meaning to the word silly

Well Jess, two things I could ask you is why are you now living in Canada and not Marsh Harbour is it economic? The basic economic model for this country has not changed for 40 years it is still tourism and banking and i doubt you would find many persons in this forum that would disagree with me. Now as far as politics is concerned I have difficulty with both parties FNM or PLP because neither of them has tried to diverse this economy. Oh and by the way the link works for me, dont know where you went wrong.
http://www.centralbankbahamas.com/publications.lasso?id=10249&cmd=view

But I will make it easier for you.

Well Jess, two things I could ask you is why are you now living in Canada and not Marsh Harbour is it economic? The basic economic model for this country has not changed for 40 years it is still tourism and banking and i doubt you would find many persons in this forum that would disagree with me. Now as far as politics is concerned I have difficulty with both parties FNM or PLP because neither of them has tried to diverse this economy. Oh and by the way the link works for me, dont know where you went wrong.
http://www.centralbankbahamas.com/publications.lasso?id=10249&cmd=view
But I will make it easier for you.


marsh harbour?

'Runner,

You obviously missed again - Boy put down dat rum!

Yes, I was born in Marsh Harbour, but grew up in Freeport. Attended university in London and Montreal, returned to Freeport where I worked firstly in the private sector and ultimately with my current employer, the Bahamas government.

Yes, I work for the government - the people of The Bahamas in Canada. And no, it had nothing to do with economics and everything to do with my expertise.

I was sent here by 'yinna FNM administration in 2002. So check yourself before you wreck yourself!

And you know what....as soon as my posting has expired, I will gladly return to Freeport where I intend to live well into my old age....I am proud to be Bahamian and like so many of my brothers and sisters, know that it is the best place in the world to live and work.

Do not presume to confuse me with your contemporaries who may look for any reason to sleek off to the states and live in blissful anonymity..

With regard to your 'link' my point was simply that no one needs to look at an obscure website when the evidence is plainly in their face everyday....

PLP: 800 homes for low income families in 3.5 years
FNM: 54 homes for low income families in 9.5 years

PLP: Indexing of old age pensions to inflation plus bonus for pensioners at Christmas
FNM: No improvement in pension benefits for entire term

FNM: Cowering to international bullies and allowing Bahamas to be blacklisted with no resolution
PLP: Cleared blacklisting issue within 24 months of entering office.

Listen, I really do not have to justify my positions to you, especially if you are predisposed to selective reasoning....the facts speak for themselves.

jessup from your post on the other thread, i would have taken you for fnm ..???

And it would be the best place to work and live in the world, if it wasnt so darn expensive and plagued with crime and coruption .. then again where isnt these days .. would help if the government run employment office actually had some jobs to offer bahamians besides maids and gardeners - and im sure it was the same during the FNM so im not playing politics ..

im not FNM, but pensions, low income homes, is that it?? Come on, we have a major crime problem here (in Nassau), not to mention gas price gauging, non existant health dept, roads made from potholes, and illegal taxation.

Im going to do a video documentary on Nassau soon, only for Bahamians, and then lets see if people want change, if they like being raped and pillaged, then so be it, but it doesnt matter what party you have in power, cause there are all the same government workers anyway, from one party to the next. (and alot of them work hard and do a good job, the bad apples (especially the union types) wreck it for the good workers who care about their people and their country)

NO i haven't seen them as yet ...guess Lady P them are also fed up with Perry
and his nonsense.....also he is not half the leader sir Lynden was ...I am also told former MP Philip B did not attend because he too is disappointed in the performance of this Goverment.
Junkanoo shuffle and hot air will not get the job done.:dancer:


is that a good or bad thing :screw:

Rory,

Not sure which of the many cities, states or countries you have listed on your profile you reside in , but be it any of those listed you would know that crime, and gas price gouging is universal.

Canada has oil fields rivaling Texas and Venezuela, but yet we pay more for a litre of petrol than any Bahamian motorist. The Bahamas does not drill for oil, we do not even have a fully functioning refinery - Gas is imported and yet it costs less per gallon there than in most developed countries....nothing to complain about there.

'Non existent health department' who do you think hired and continue to employ the highest number of trained nurses and other allied health professionals in The Bahamas? You guessed it - The Ministry of Health. Also, do you know that the government ran Princess Margaret Hospital is the leading medical training facility in the Caribbean? Medical students from throughout the region are clamoring for spaces to complete their internships here.

Yeah the roads are bad, but they are also repaired consistently. I am from Freeport where the roads have always been pristine, but that may be due to the low amount of traffic. Nassau is overcrowded and any road work creates havoc. Nonetheless, the government, past and present has done a competent job in executing repairs and upgrades. Now, you should visit Jamaica, Barbados, T&T, Antigua, The DR and Cuba - now talk about bad roads and pot holes....We are quite fortunate.

Not sure what you're reference is as related to 'illegal taxation.' We pay no income tax in The Bahamas so import duties and licensing fees are the only means of income for our nation. I would never complain about paying duties on purchases made abroad - especially after having to pay import duty, sales tax and federal tax on items brought into Canada....this in addition to income tax, property tax, capital gains tax, and insurance benefit tax. Per capita, The Bahamas is in a far better position than all of its North American neighbors.

So add the homes for low income families and pension upgrades to that and you have paradise my friend - That's The Bahamas...

Not sure which of the many cities, states or countries you have listed on your profile you reside in , but be it any of those listed you would know that crime, and gas price gouging is universal.


Alot of them, but yes it is everywhere.


Canada has oil fields rivaling Texas and Venezuela, but yet we pay more for a litre of petrol than any Bahamian motorist. The Bahamas does not drill for oil, we do not even have a fully functioning refinery - Gas is imported and yet it costs less per gallon there than in most developed countries....nothing to complain about there.

Why would you compare us to a 1'st world country in the first place?


'Non existent health department' who do you think hired and continue to employ the highest number of trained nurses and other allied health professionals in The Bahamas? You guessed it - The Ministry of Health. Also, do you know that the government ran Princess Margaret Hospital is the leading medical training facility in the Caribbean? Medical students from throughout the region are clamoring for spaces to complete their internships here.


Okay, maybe I said it wrong, the people that deal with food poisening ..?? We have a non existance "office" that deals with the stale out of date food our local stores and restaurants poisen us with, which we pay those rediculous prices for .. oh wait, they put the out of date stuff on sale .. whoops.


Yeah the roads are bad, but they are also repaired consistently. I am from Freeport where the roads have always been pristine, but that may be due to the low amount of traffic. Nassau is overcrowded and any road work creates havoc. Nonetheless, the government, past and present has done a competent job in executing repairs and upgrades. Now, you should visit Jamaica, Barbados, T&T, Antigua, The DR and Cuba - now talk about bad roads and pot holes....We are quite fortunate.

You gotta be joking!!! You been over there too long, or never been to Nassau!! I can name loads of main roads in Nassau which are a disgrace and have been for many years, they make the Ministry of works look worst than the Road Traffic Joke Dept. we have here! I wouldn't want my worst enemy to drive on a Nassau Road .. and I wouldnt want them to get a job working at one of those pathetic companies!


Not sure what you're reference is as related to 'illegal taxation.' We pay no income tax in The Bahamas so import duties and licensing fees are the only means of income for our nation. I would never complain about paying duties on purchases made abroad - especially after having to pay import duty, sales tax and federal tax on items brought into Canada....this in addition to income tax, property tax, capital gains tax, and insurance benefit tax. Per capita, The Bahamas is in a far better position than all of its North American neighbors.
So add the homes for low income families and pension upgrades to that and you have paradise my friend - That's The Bahamas...

Illegal Tax - Okay, to make you understand it better, it is DUMB TAX FOR DUMMIES - The guy making $1000 a week pays the same for a gallon of OJ in the food store ($8.00), as does the person making $150 a week - oh yeah, and thats the TRUE average Bahamian Salary. The prices here are rediculous, the cost of living here is rediculous. You have been away from Reality far too long.

You are also forgetting that in the UK and Canada, for example, you get everything FREE, Healthcare that is, for example. Here, we earn less than you and plus we have to have a cook out to fly us over to a Hospital than can "try" to save our lives .. plus we owe them for the rest of what life we have left.

And i'll say it again, i'm saying this as a non FNM nor a PLP, just a Bahamian living in Nassau .. this place has gone to the dogs, we are in a hole and cant get out .. we need more help than those poor people in New Orleans ... Darnit, can't yall see the light ???

i also didn't mention how the unions are digging a hole for this country.

Besides Drug Running Capital of the West Indies and the Country that sold out, what else did king ping and the new PLP do for us ..i mean to actually make it better here ..? We arent on the "what did Ingraham do for us" topic, so keep it on topic, and dont try to fool us with crap roads .. etc etc etc ..

PS. I was born and grew up in Freeport too.