What have you been smoking?

How can you compare murder to the simple enforcement of the laws of The Bahamas by sending illegals home and stopping them from squatting on government land without permission?

And if they believe that enforcing our laws is being harsh and that they have the right to stir up trouble because of that enforcement, THEY do not need to be in this country!

This is a nation based upon democratic principles and ANY threat to the stability of this nation and safety of its citizens will be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law. Any group who dares to threaten this country's civilized approach to the challenges within our society will be ostracized. The Bahamas cannot afford to become another Haiti, where people riot and pillage because they do not get their own way! They need to learn to respect the laws of the Bahamas, first and foremost.

You cannot be a born and bred citizen of this Bahamas and be that oblivious to our government's glaring generousity in allowing them to squat on that land for so long without any due recourse.

What is so difficult to understand about it, really? The laws of the Commonwealth of the Bahamas forbid any citizen or non citizen to build any dwelling without proper permission from the Bahamian government. Is enforcing that law definable as murder?

Don't be ridiculous!

First let me clear up what I said! I do not support the fact that they squatted on government property,And I believe fully in the government to enforce the laws on illegal immigrants.My only point is the outcome of someone's death please tell me your not that cold! and I don't appreciate your comment about me not being a Bahamian because I am, just not as barbaric.

My only point is the outcome of someone's death please tell me your not that cold!

What exactly are you saying? That because someone happened to die in the fire, residents of that community should all be able to stay there?

It was reported that the start of the fire was accidental. Yes, someone died because of it, but it shows the inherent lack of safety within that community. 130 houses up in flames? Who in their right mind would want to live there anymore?

Housing rules are developed and implemented for a purpose. Obviously those illegal communities are fire hazards. If anything, this most recent fire was yet another warning sign to those who live within that community (Wasn't this the fourth major fire?) They need to clear out that area and live according to the housing rules implemented by the Bahamian government. Moving them from that area cannot be termed as barbaric - it's actually very humane. Preventative measures are far from barbaric. Get a clue, stop being emotional about the situation and use basic logic. If anything, the government of the Bahamas should step in now and clear out the place to eliminate the possibility of future hazards, which would create additional expense!

To use your argument of "death", how many others have to lose their lives in that unsafe enviroment for them to figure out that it isn't safe there?

Anytime a life is lost in this country, it's a sad, sad, day. The Bahamas has now created a monster of a problem that will take a generation to reverse, unless there is consentrated, immovable focus on this situation to bring it back to earth, otherwise, 20yrs from now this country will be in complete ruins! And if we do not get our youths under control, we maybe in complete ruins before then.

What exactly are you saying? That because someone happened to die in the fire, residents of that community should all be able to stay there?

It was reported that the start of the fire was accidental. Yes, someone died because of it, but it shows the inherent lack of safety within that community. 130 houses up in flames? Who in their right mind would want to live there anymore?

Housing rules are developed and implemented for a purpose. Obviously those illegal communities are fire hazards. If anything, this most recent fire was yet another warning sign to those who live within that community (Wasn't this the fourth major fire?) They need to clear out that area and live according to the housing rules implemented by the Bahamian government. Moving them from that area cannot be termed as barbaric - it's actually very humane. Preventative measures are far from barbaric. Get a clue, stop being emotional about the situation and use basic logic. If anything, the government of the Bahamas should step in now and clear out the place to eliminate the possibility of future hazards, which would create additional expense!

To use your argument of "death", how many others have to lose their lives in that unsafe enviroment for them to figure out that it isn't safe there?

It's so obvious that you have a one track mind.But life is not a one way street.Good argument though:hammer: .Peace

Yes, my "one-track mind" is focused on protecting the stable, non-violent and prosperous future of the Commonwealth of The Bahamas.

As a Bahamian, this should be one of your ultimate goals as well.

But life is not a one way street.
And no one should expect "life" to give them a handout either, at the expense of others no less.
Peace

I believe in peace, but I hope that the persons from the Mudd who attacked Abaconian firefighters believe in it.

Everyday the true colors of some of those who illegally enter into this country shine through a bit more.

Bahamians would not pull a knife on a firefighter or hit them with a 2x4 piece of wood. That's not the Bahamian way.

Government of The Bahamas, PAY ATTENTION! Now the real reason comes to light why the US Department of Immigration immediately ships Haitians back to their country when caught entering US shores.

Now the real reason comes to light why the US Department of Immigration immediately ships Haitians back to their country when caught entering US shores.

:jawdroop: ...and they do so in contravention of international law...remember, just as illegal immigrants are breaking domestic law, we (and the US, etc) run a serious risk of breaking international law, by immediately repatriating illegal immigrants WITHOUT screening them for asylum claims.

:jawdroop: ...and they do so in contravention of international law...remember, just as illegal immigrants are breaking domestic law, we (and the US, etc) run a serious risk of breaking international law, by immediately repatriating illegal immigrants WITHOUT screening them for asylum claims.

As it pertains to international law, I am sure that a case for "special circumstances" would be applied to any complaint of a violation by this Commonwealth of The Bahamas.

A recent survey by an international body has found that The Bahamas already has absorbed as many as 60,000 Haitians.

In a country of 300,000 it would be absolutely unfair to maintain that we should continue opening our country's borders to and bearing the immigrant burden of Haiti.

Moon Angel, the facts have slapped this nation in the face and cannot be ignored any longer. Just look at how persons are attempting to create pity by saying that one person died in the recent fire. What most persons do not know is that the daughter of the woman who died has six children and is now pregnant with her seventh.

Asylum you say. Those who continue to ignore the facts need to be put into a mental asylum.

As it pertains to international law, I am sure that a case for "special circumstances" would be applied to any complaint of a violation by this Commonwealth of The Bahamas.A recent survey by an international body has found that The Bahamas already has absorbed as much as 60,000 Haitians.
In a country of 300,000 it would be absolutely unfair to maintain that we should continue opening our country's borders to and bearing the immigrant burden of Haiti.
Moon Angel, the facts have slapped this nation in the face and cannot be ignored any longer. Just look at how persons are attempting to create pity by saying that one person died in the recent fire. What most persons do not know is that the daughter of the woman who died has six children and is now pregnant with her seventh.
Asylum you say. Those who continue to ignore the facts need to be put into a mental asylum.


"special circumstances"???? what special circumstances? no such defense exists in the application of international refugee law. our immigration situation is indeed a crisis...but it does not justify us trivialising and ignoring our international obligations. should have considered that before we signed the convention.

i'm not saying we can 'absorb haiti', or solve its problems, simply that, as we repatriate, there are certain legal provisions we must respect - which at this point, we do not. as for the constant line of reasoning that we are simply 'too small' - think if countries like pakistan and iran - very much overpopulated - who have had to take millions of afghan refugees during the soviet invasion. think of african countries who are forced to absorb their neighbours due to ongoing violent conflicts. im not saying we have the space, all im saying is that some have had it far worse...we should perhaps develop some of our 700 uninhabitated islands and cays!

Yes, my "one-track mind" is focused on protecting the stable, non-violent and prosperous future of the Commonwealth of The Bahamas.
As a Bahamian, this should be one of your ultimate goals as well.
And no one should expect "life" to give them a handout either, at the expense of others no less.
I believe in peace, but I hope that the persons from the Mudd who attacked Abaconian firefighters believe in it.
Everyday the true colors of some of those who illegally enter into this country shine through a bit more.
Bahamians would not pull a knife on a firefighter or hit them with a 2x4 piece of wood. That's not the Bahamian way.
Government of The Bahamas, PAY ATTENTION! Now the real reason comes to light why the US Department of Immigration immediately ships Haitians back to their country when caught entering US shores.

I meant peace as in your point was understood.You can put down ya guns and patriotism cause you really crackn me up!:D

What most persons do not know is that the daughter of the woman who died has six children and is now pregnant with her seventh.

say it again Yorick
in this day and age why is she having all those children? why?
I mean these women aren't in Haiti what is wrong with them? Why they cant see that if you cant feed um, dont have um!

say it again Yorick
in this day and age why is she having all those children? why?
I mean these women aren't in Haiti what is wrong with them? Why they cant see that if you cant feed um, dont have um!

WTF??? what does her 'passion' for child-bearing have to do with either of you???? i also wonder why poor people have children, but guess what??its THEIR choice. you need not have an opinion missy! :sparky:

WTF??? what does her 'passion' for child-bearing have to do with either of you???? i also wonder why poor people have children, but guess what??its THEIR choice. you need not have an opinion missy! :sparky:

bullsh!t now you talking arse.
it is my business when I gattie to pay for um (in tax contributions) its my business.
if they keep having um what will be left for yours and mine!
having 6 and 7 children is irresponsible if you cant provide for them, dont get it twisted sister!:fly:

WTF??? what does her 'passion' for child-bearing have to do with either of you???? i also wonder why poor people have children, but guess what??its THEIR choice. you need not have an opinion missy! :sparky:

It has a lot to do with Bahamians when the public school system, as well as the other public systems in Abaco all collapse under the weight of a rapidly increasing immigrant population.

It has a lot to do with Bahamians when the government of my country has to find money to deal with the increased burden of this immigrant population when it is already dealing with a glaring budget deficit that rises every year.

It has a lot to do with Bahamians when threats of takeover and violence against us are pushed under the rug and ignored. the fact of the matter is that we are introducing an element into this society who has never known democracy.

Need I go on?


I meant peace as in your point was understood.You can put down ya guns and patriotism cause you really crackn me up!:D

If violence against Bahamian citizens and public representatives cracks you up then so be it.

By the way, more guns are in those illegal communities than on the streets of Nassau. You probably already know this though.

i'm not saying we can 'absorb haiti', or solve its problems, simply that, as we repatriate, there are certain legal provisions we must respect - which at this point, we do not. as for the constant line of reasoning that we are simply 'too small' - think if countries like pakistan and iran - very much overpopulated - who have had to take millions of afghan refugees during the soviet invasion. think of african countries who are forced to absorb their neighbours due to ongoing violent conflicts. im not saying we have the space, all im saying is that some have had it far worse...we should perhaps develop some of our 700 uninhabitated islands and cays!

Oh, so now we should develop our islands for a foreign element? Frankly, if the larger countries (like the US) who can afford to absorb them don't, what kind of logic would we be following to take on that burden?

I know that human rights is your flag to wave, but arguing a human rights cause that could potentially destabilize an already shaky country is madness.

Many Bahamian persons have ignored the warning signs out of generousity, compassion and goodwill. Now we have an element who dares to fly in the face of their saviours, but all you can argue about is the international human rights law. I guess that Bahamians do not have enough human rights to protect themselves from a known volatile element who enters their society under the guise of "hardship workers".

And we wonder why the "third world" is destined to stay "third world".

It has a lot to do with Bahamians when the public school system, as well as the other public systems in Abaco all collapse under the weight of a rapidly increasing immigrant population.
It has a lot to do with Bahamians when the government of my country has to find money to deal with the increased burden of this immigrant population when it is already dealing with a glaring budget deficit that rises every year.
It has a lot to do with Bahamians when threats of takeover and violence against us are pushed under the rug and ignored. the fact of the matter is that we are introducing an element into this society who has never known democracy.
Need I go on?
If violence against Bahamian citizens and public representatives cracks you up then so be it.
By the way, more guns are in those illegal communities than on the streets of Nassau. You probably already know this though.
Oh, so now we should develop our islands for a foreign element? Frankly, if the larger countries (like the US) who can afford to absorb them don't, what kind of logic would we be following to take on that burden?
I know that human rights is your flag to wave, but arguing a human rights cause that could potentially destabilize an already shaky country is madness.
Many Bahamian persons have ignored the warning signs out of generousity, compassion and goodwill. Now we have an element who dares to fly in the face of their saviours, but all you can argue about is the international human rights law. I guess that Bahamians do not have enough human rights to protect themselves from a known volatile element who enters their society under the guise of "hardship workers".
And we wonder why the "third world" is destined to stay "third world".

this should shut her up

It has a lot to do with Bahamians when the public school system, as well as the other public systems in Abaco all collapse under the weight of a rapidly increasing immigrant population.
It has a lot to do with Bahamians when the government of my country has to find money to deal with the increased burden of this immigrant population when it is already dealing with a glaring budget deficit that rises every year.
It has a lot to do with Bahamians when threats of takeover and violence against us are pushed under the rug and ignored. the fact of the matter is that we are introducing an element into this society who has never known democracy.
Need I go on?
If violence against Bahamian citizens and public representatives cracks you up then so be it.
By the way, more guns are in those illegal communities than on the streets of Nassau. You probably already know this though.
Oh, so now we should develop our islands for a foreign element? Frankly, if the larger countries (like the US) who can afford to absorb them don't, what kind of logic would we be following to take on that burden?
I know that human rights is your flag to wave, but arguing a human rights cause that could potentially destabilize an already shaky country is madness.
Many Bahamian persons have ignored the warning signs out of generousity, compassion and goodwill. Now we have an element who dares to fly in the face of their saviours, but all you can argue about is the international human rights law. I guess that Bahamians do not have enough human rights to protect themselves from a known volatile element who enters their society under the guise of "hardship workers".
And we wonder why the "third world" is destined to stay "third world".

Dude you need to live on an island all by yourself, clearly opinions other than your's doesn't need to be said!:raw: You just love to dictate!Go form a website where it's just your opinions and where no one else is allowed to comment!:hammer: