Spanish Wells!! Guana Cay! Man of War!!!
OMG! Das three!! Must be a conspiracy to overthrow the Government!!!

Well, first of all, Spanish Wells has the worst educational system in the Bahamas. They always begging government for new and more educated teachers, instead of the many teacher's aide that they have there..

And in regards to Guana Cay and Man of War key, ahhh, man no Bahamians live on them islands any way...They are all expats, with ex pat teaches, with ex pat syllabus....

Man you can do better than that, name me three Bahamian schools...

Jessup, I might invite you to Gullyrock, where white and black people go to the same school, churches, restaurants, parties, celebrations and even marry each other!! There are a few of these places in our country and some are very successful! When you come over, I goin let you sleep in my house in my almost white neighbourhood, eat conchie joe food ( you know we cant cook, hey??) and I promise not to give you the vibe!
As a white Bahamian who grew up with wonderful black friends, when I read some of these perceptions about US, I feel we are SOOOO misunderstood!
As to whites not wanting to live in a ghetto, get real..anyone who has a chance tries to better themselves, and no disrespect to persons who live in the ghetto, but ghetto is usually synonomous with a lower standard of living! Truth is my friends most of us, black or white, are class prejudiced!!

I wan know where dese ghettoes is, where you talking 'bout?

Jessup, I might invite you to Gullyrock, where white and black people go to the same school, churches, restaurants, parties, celebrations and even marry each other!!
Gullyrock is a place? Where is it?

Well, first of all, Spanish Wells has the worst educational system in the Bahamas. They always begging government for new and more educated teachers, instead of the many teacher's aide that they have there..
And in regards to Guana Cay and Man of War key, ahhh, man no Bahamians live on them islands any way...They are all expats, with ex pat teaches, with ex pat syllabus....
Man you can do better than that, name me three Bahamian schools...


Guana Cay and Man Of War schools are not made up of ex pat students! Mind you, there are probably less than 30 children in Guana Cay school...And Man Of War has a small student population..They are both Primary schools with secondary students attending schools in Marsh Harbour...In fact Agape School in MH MIGHT have a higher white population. Its a chuch affiliated school, so most of that particular church members would send their kids there!
What you mean een no Bahamians living on them cays? Who you think protesting against Baker's Bay? And while Man Of War does have a lot of second home owners and an ex-pat heads their school, Man Of War is an old Bahamian community! Lots of Loyalist descendants there!!
I don't know anything about Spanish Wells educational system, but since Spanish Wells is the Texas of the Bahamas (erryting bigger and better!!) I would think they triumphed in school too...but they do get married at 16, so not much point in getting BGCSE's...( Lawd, that wasn't nice..discrimination I beleive..I'm guilty! Abner forgive me!)

Oh Yes Gully Rock is real!!! You want come for a visit????

gully rock, abner, lawd im crackin yup here :p

What you mean een no Bahamians living on them cays? Who you think protesting against Baker's Bay? And while Man Of War does have a lot of second home owners and an ex-pat heads their school, Man Of War is an old Bahamian community! Lots of Loyalist descendants there!!
Oh Yes Gully Rock is real!!! You want come for a visit????

Man there are more loyalist descendants living in the Bahamas other than on Spanish Wells....dang...where yall does be hiding....
and where is Gully Rock??

This is what I'm trying to say. We need to treat every person on his or her merits, not worry about about their skin color their, nationality, their political or religious affiliation, etc. Goodness knows we are a small country and have so few human resources to begin with. We cannot afford to have our people working against one another. It just don't make sense. That is why it hurts when politicians (and religious leaders but that's for a different discussion) divide us in order to win elections.
And we go right along with them because we want to be able point the finger whenever something goes wrong.
I'm glad to hear that there are some Bahamians who have moved beyond that.

True, VERY TRUE! I wonder though about putting religious leaders in the same category with politicians in dividing us. Now if you are referring to those religious leaders who are NOT into the gospel of Christ, then that's another matter! The Good Book says there are ONLY 2 out of 7 churches Christ is pleased with!!!

After 1967, if the PLP had stuck to their original philosophy and ploicies, this Bahamas would have been colour-blind long ago, and an absolute Heaven on earth!!! Bad race relations, conflicts, etc, etc, would have been so far in the past even the old folks would have forgotten about them!!!:angel:

What many posters here are conveniently forgetting is that the poor race relations in this country is solely the result of behaviour of white Bahamians.

That being said, I think that we have gotten off of the point. The reason that black Bahamians are "afraid" (I don't see it as much being afraid as being insulted) of Brent Symonette has more to do with his heritage than his colour. Brent Symonette is the beneficiary of the policies and actions of his father and his father's UBP colleagues during the not so distant past. I feel that the policies and actions of this group were wrong and should be condemned, Mr Symonette should state to the Bahamian people what his positions and feelings are regarding these men's treatment of the black minority prior to 1967. If Mr. Symonette feels comfortable disrespecting 85% of The Bahamian people by not condemning these actions yet asking for our votes then I have no sympathy for him.

By the way I have also not heard any of the white Bahamians on this forum comment on the DISCRIMINATION that Bahamians have endured for years and countless accounting of REVERSE DISCRIMINATION. The only way that there can be REVERSE DISCRIMINATION is if there was originally DISCRIMINATION. When I hear white Bahamians complain about being discriminated against I find their comments to be truly disingenuous. Why have none of the intelligent enlightened white Bahamians on this forum acknowledged where the animosity that black Bahamians feel comes from. The fact is that most black Bahamians still do not trust the vast majority of white Bahamians, period. Given what black Bahamians have suffered under our white brothers and sisters, I think that we as black Bahamians are well within our rights to not trust our white compatriots. I have many white acquaintances and went to a school with a high percentage of white students (Quenn's College). I do not dislike white Bahamians but I do not necessarily trust them.

As an aside I support The Progressive Liberal Party, and I do not consider myself to be ignorant as a former poster suggested. I support The Progressive Liberal Party because they are more concerned with the welfare of the least among us, the person's who need the assistance and help of those of us who have more. As a citizen of "The best little country in the world" we have an obligation to render assistance to our brothers and sisters who are in harms way, whether they be in danger from a hurricane or hunger. It is easy for anyone who is unbiased and sober minded to see that The PLP cares for people far more than the FNM. The actions of the FNM belie their claim to care for the Bahamian people. One legislation that always sticks with me is the changes to the real property act. Shortly after assuming the government in 1992 one of their first legislations was to ammend the law so that non Bahamians would be allowed to purchase Bahamian land for speculative purposes. This was one of the first pressing pieces of legislation that they tabled. Why, who did this help. The only groupf of Bahamians to benefit from this was those with large tracts of land and a desire to sell it. Most of these persons were white Bahamians many of them with UBP, and or Bay Street, Eastern Road connections. Meanwhile most black Bahamians who would have had to work extrememly hard to ever own a piece of the rock will more than likely never be homeowners as real estate prices have now spiraled well out of their reach, while white Bahamian real estate tycoons have collectively made billions under this new legislation.

someone needs to get out more ..

looks like the OLD racist PLPs are coming out of the wood work ...

i cant stand dumb people that think all white bahamians are rich, they can just goto hell for all i care, black or white.

Waaahhhhhhhhhhhhh .. cry babies.

someone needs to get out more ..

looks like the OLD racist PLPs are coming out of the wood work ...

i cant stand dumb people that think all white bahamians are rich, they can just goto hell for all i care, black or white.

Waaahhhhhhhhhhhhh .. cry babies.

I find it interesting that you accuse me of being racist when you don't even know me. Why would you accuse me of being racist when all i tried to do was to point out to you the source of the feelings that black Bahamians have and where they come from. It is that type of response that precipitates these feelings. All I have heard from whites on this forum do was cry about them being discriminated against, while not one of you has acknowledged your own culpability in the matter. Racism in The Bahamas did not begin in 1967 and it certainly did not take a hiatus during 1992 to 2002.

I find it interesting that you accuse me of being racist


you comments were racist, or in the least prejudice.
it would be like me saying all black bahamians are armed robbers and rapists .. generlising is for dummies, 101.

not that i give a hoot .. but just so you know.

For a time I thought that this forum was a good place to exchange views and ideas and maybe have a friendly debate. I never thought that this entailed calling people "racist" and "moron" if they disagree with you. Yet I heard it said somewhere in this forum that anyone who voted for The PLP was ignorant. I guess that is the level to which intelligent debate has sunk in The Bahamas of 2005.

For a time I thought that this forum was a good place to exchange views and ideas and maybe have a friendly debate. I never thought that this entailed calling people "racist" and "moron" if they disagree with you. Yet I heard it said somewhere in this forum that anyone who voted for The PLP was ignorant. I guess that is the level to which intelligent debate has sunk in The Bahamas of 2005.


So you have no problem with saying ALL white bahamians are racist??

What many posters here are conveniently forgetting is that the poor race relations in this country is solely the result of behaviour of white Bahamians.
That being said, I think that we have gotten off of the point. The reason that black Bahamians are "afraid" (I don't see it as much being afraid as being insulted) of Brent Symonette has more to do with his heritage than his colour. Brent Symonette is the beneficiary of the policies and actions of his father and his father's UBP colleagues during the not so distant past. I feel that the policies and actions of this group were wrong and should be condemned, Mr Symonette should state to the Bahamian people what his positions and feelings are regarding these men's treatment of the black minority prior to 1967. If Mr. Symonette feels comfortable disrespecting 85% of The Bahamian people by not condemning these actions yet asking for our votes then I have no sympathy for him.
By the way I have also not heard any of the white Bahamians on this forum comment on the DISCRIMINATION that Bahamians have endured for years and countless accounting of REVERSE DISCRIMINATION. The only way that there can be REVERSE DISCRIMINATION is if there was originally DISCRIMINATION. When I hear white Bahamians complain about being discriminated against I find their comments to be truly disingenuous. Why have none of the intelligent enlightened white Bahamians on this forum acknowledged where the animosity that black Bahamians feel comes from. The fact is that most black Bahamians still do not trust the vast majority of white Bahamians, period. Given what black Bahamians have suffered under our white brothers and sisters, I think that we as black Bahamians are well within our rights to not trust our white compatriots. I have many white acquaintances and went to a school with a high percentage of white students (Quenn's College). I do not dislike white Bahamians but I do not necessarily trust them.
As an aside I support The Progressive Liberal Party, and I do not consider myself to be ignorant as a former poster suggested. I support The Progressive Liberal Party because they are more concerned with the welfare of the least among us, the person's who need the assistance and help of those of us who have more. As a citizen of "The best little country in the world" we have an obligation to render assistance to our brothers and sisters who are in harms way, whether they be in danger from a hurricane or hunger. It is easy for anyone who is unbiased and sober minded to see that The PLP cares for people far more than the FNM. The actions of the FNM belie their claim to care for the Bahamian people. One legislation that always sticks with me is the changes to the real property act. Shortly after assuming the government in 1992 one of their first legislations was to ammend the law so that non Bahamians would be allowed to purchase Bahamian land for speculative purposes. This was one of the first pressing pieces of legislation that they tabled. Why, who did this help. The only groupf of Bahamians to benefit from this was those with large tracts of land and a desire to sell it. Most of these persons were white Bahamians many of them with UBP, and or Bay Street, Eastern Road connections. Meanwhile most black Bahamians who would have had to work extrememly hard to ever own a piece of the rock will more than likely never be homeowners as real estate prices have now spiraled well out of their reach, while white Bahamian real estate tycoons have collectively made billions under this new legislation.

I am blue black, and feel that the comments has a racist undertone to it. Should Mr. Symonnette apologise for his father's party relations with black Bahamians, I think not...Should the numerous black Bahamians who voted for the UBP apologise for so called 'betraying their race,' I think not...Should every white person in the Bahamas aplogise for discrimination against blacks done by their grandparents, I think not.

But who I think should aplogise is the PLP party for always alienating a race. I can imagine if such a thing would have happened in the US...where Republicans/democrats blantantly say out loud that blacks do not have the right to be in politics...

Right now our race issues are latent, neverthelss, soon such issues will be right in our face, where white Bahamians will only help whites and black Bahamians will only help blacks, and the foreign investor and the world will realize that all is not well in heaven...

I never said that all white Bahamians were racist, and I never made any racist comments. My comments were all factual. Before 1967 black Bahamians were subjected to treatment that was unconscienable. That is a fact. The fact that no white Bahamian in this forum is willing to acknowledge this even in passing is why the issue of race has permeated our society for so long. Just as you and all the other white Bahamians on this forum are so reluctant to say simply "What happened to blacks in The Bahamas prior to 1967 was wrong" I suspect that Mr. Symonette would likewise decline. That is why he is a polarizing figure, not simply because he is white.

And like you said earlier " not that I give a hoot", I don't really give a hoot. I am secure in who and what I am. You don't have to acknowledge anything to me, because you aren't looking for my vote, or maybe you are. Brent Symonette cannot expect the FNM to win without significant numbers of black voters voting for them, I think that he insults us by asking us to vote for his party when he is the recipient of the spoils his father collected during his oppression of our people without even acknowledging our struggles.