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canewry
11-20-05, - 08:18 PM
I never said that all white Bahamians were racist, and I never made any racist comments. My comments were all factual. Before 1967 black Bahamians were subjected to treatment that was unconscienable.
My point is this, why stop at 1967...Lets go as far as 1838. I wasn't born then either. Lets talk about slavery, and how black Bahamians were treated then. Lets always have this on our minds, when we relate to white people. Lets demand that white Bahamians compensate black Bahamians for all the transgressions they heaped on their backs.

De Redhead, but why stop there, lets get mad at them for forcing us to change our religion, forcing us to migrate to the Bahamas, raping our daughters, turning our men into studs. Lets never stop. Lets Blame white Bahamians for everything that is wrong with the Bahamas, as we blacks are not to blame.

de redhead
11-20-05, - 08:33 PM
When you try to trivialize an issue you do a disservice to yourself and everyone else who struggled so that today we can post on this forum without fear of recrimination.Everything that I said in my original post was factual, it was not rhetoric. I have noticed on this site that rhetoric and fact are often confused. The tactics of those that ran the country prior to 1967 were unfair on their face, but they justified them. One claim was that if black Bahamians were allowed to run the country they would ruin it, so our altruistic leaders decided to cheat us out of our birthrights to protect us from ourselves.
I am not asking Mr. Symonette to do anything that he doesn't want to do, but how can you defend his right to not be judged by his fathers dispicable actions or his failure to acknowledge them as such, yet you call me racist when I say that I do not and many other Bahamian blacks will not support him.

edb
11-20-05, - 08:44 PM
True, VERY TRUE! I wonder though about putting religious leaders in the same category with politicians in dividing us. Now if you are referring to those religious leaders who are NOT into the gospel of Christ, then that's another matter! The Good Book says there are ONLY 2 out of 7 churches Christ is pleased with!!!

Yes you are correct - I perhaps should have said some so-called religious leaders.

Rory
11-20-05, - 08:52 PM
I never said that all white Bahamians were racist, and I never made any racist comments. My comments were all factual. Before 1967 black Bahamians were subjected to treatment that was unconscienable. That is a fact. The fact that no white Bahamian in this forum is willing to acknowledge this even in passing is why the issue of race has permeated our society for so long. Just as you and all the other white Bahamians on this forum are so reluctant to say simply "What happened to blacks in The Bahamas prior to 1967 was wrong" I suspect that Mr. Symonette would likewise decline. That is why he is a polarizing figure, not simply because he is white.
And like you said earlier " not that I give a hoot", I don't really give a hoot. I am secure in who and what I am. You don't have to acknowledge anything to me, because you aren't looking for my vote, or maybe you are. Brent Symonette cannot expect the FNM to win without significant numbers of black voters voting for them, I think that he insults us by asking us to vote for his party when he is the recipient of the spoils his father collected during his oppression of our people without even acknowledging our struggles.


He's in politics, not me, i dont have to say anything to anyone, about anything, its none of my business and doesnt put food on my table.

gullyrock
11-20-05, - 10:14 PM
Anbody got any cheese to go with the w(h)ine???
For crissakes we all know what happened in those days was wrong..but its in the past..and its been said before that poor white people were also discriminated against... Now if our man Brent would just be kind enough to divvy up those ill gotten gains and put it in envelopes and send us each one for christmas, I'd be happy to accept a few bucks.. das it, he need to launder he money..

RockWell
11-20-05, - 10:27 PM
Man who cares if Brent is black or white, as a politican he's an idiot & indecisive.If yinna want to row over & vote for someone who's displayed the characteristics that he did over the past several years then *Carry On Smartly!*.And maybe people keep bringing up is color because so far he has shown NO Intestinal Fortitude but yet he's in the position to be DPM of this country.Maybe yinna need to focus on how did this happen. :bored:

Rory
11-20-05, - 10:29 PM
well i dont know about him really, where he came from etc, as i dont really follow it, but then he cant be any worse than pratt.

RockWell
11-20-05, - 10:38 PM
well i dont know about him really, where he came from etc, as i dont really follow it, but then he cant be any worse than pratt.
Hmmmmmmmmm! Ya think so aye?

edb
11-20-05, - 10:39 PM
I find it interesting that you accuse me of being racist when you don't even know me. Why would you accuse me of being racist when all i tried to do was to point out to you the source of the feelings that black Bahamians have and where they come from. It is that type of response that precipitates these feelings. All I have heard from whites on this forum do was cry about them being discriminated against, while not one of you has acknowledged your own culpability in the matter. Racism in The Bahamas did not begin in 1967 and it certainly did not take a hiatus during 1992 to 2002.

You are right - many black Bahamians have a deep rooted resentment toward white Bahamians. You are also right that black Bahamians suffered untold undignities at the hands of white Bahamians. You are right no-one should attempt to white wash history.

But to use that history to justify prejudging another person is prejudice.

You are right colour prejudice did not begin in 1967 nor 1867 nor even 1767. But isn't it time we tried to end it?

Rory
11-20-05, - 10:40 PM
Hmmmmmmmmm! Ya think so aye?


no question about it. anyone else would be better ..

CG
11-20-05, - 10:40 PM
.....Just as you and all the other white Bahamians on this forum are so reluctant to say simply "What happened to blacks in The Bahamas prior to 1967 was wrong" his oppression of our people without even acknowledging our struggles.
I admitted it before! It has to be said that being White (and rich) was an advantage in those days, and being Black a liability - being a poor White was no "walk the park either." There was racism and be it White on Black or Black on White is/was wrong.

edb
11-20-05, - 10:43 PM
well i dont know about him really, where he came from etc, as i dont really follow it, but then he cant be any worse than pratt.

But this is what I was saying from the start. All of this talk about Brent. But all we could talk about is his skin colour!

Do we even care if he is suitable or not suitable for the job based on his talents and record?

RockWell
11-20-05, - 10:43 PM
You are right - many black Bahamians have a deep rooted resentment toward white Bahamians. You are also right that black Bahamians suffered untold undignities at the hands of white Bahamians. You are right no-one should attempt to white wash history.
But to use that history to justify prejudging another person is well prejudice.
You are right colour prejudice did not begin in 1967 nor 1867 nor even 1767. But isn't it time we tried to end it?
:gi: Why is this an issue to yinna,cus it obvious by what yall post the white man issue means nothing to you (or maybe it does based on responses so far),so being so enlightened why do you really care what the PLP says seeing that you have made up your mind what you are going to do with YOUR ONE VOTE.

RockWell
11-20-05, - 10:46 PM
I admitted it before! It has to be said that being White (and rich) was an advantage in those days, and being Black a liability - being a poor White was no "walk the park either." There was racism and be it White on Black or Black on White is/was wrong.
Big Lol @ "in those days".

edb
11-20-05, - 10:47 PM
:gi: Why is this an issue to yinna,cus it obvious by what yall post the white man issue means nothing to you (or maybe it does based on responses so far),so being so enlightened why do you really care what the PLP says seeing that you have made up your mind what you are going to do with YOUR ONE VOTE.

It matters to me because I am black and I am a PLP and I feel that they have betrayed the principles they once stood for. I want to be able to feel comfortable voting for my own party!!!:hot: