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Cassius Stuart
11-23-05, - 12:36 AM
FNM and PLP Conventions
Official Press Statement
By: Cassius Stuart
Leader of The Bahamas Democratic Movement



Now that the circus is over and the clowns have gone home, it is time that the Bahamian people face the truth about the FNM and the PLP; they both have no direction for this country. The past two weeks were filled with political rhetoric, slander, back biting, racism, backstabbing and the list goes on.

The old political guards still believed that they can win the Bahamian electorate over by their foolish political tricks. The new Bahamian electorate is not a sucker for rhetoric and cheap political trills but we are only interested in the issues and the way forward.

The past two weeks have only proven what we in the BDM have been preaching for the last 5 years; that both the FNM and the PLP are corrupt and lack direction. The leaders of both of these organizations have no integrity and do not respect the leadership of the next generation.

During the charade of the last two weeks both the PLP and the FNM spoke of crime and immigration as if it is some new phenomenon. Both crime and immigration had been major problems under the FNM and they remain major problems under the PLP. The FNM did not have any answers then and they do not have any answers now. The PLP on the other hand, has clearly demonstrated that they are out of touch and don’t have a clue when it come to dealing with crime and immigration.

Hubert Alexander Ingraham has aborted the future leadership of the next generation of FNMs. His come back may have been significant and celebrated by the old guard, but it was detrimental to the future of his party and our country. In one single move, Hubert Alexander Ingraham has crushed the future seed of his party. His bid to return to leadership did not only affect Tommy Turnquest, but also younger generation of FNMs.

If the older guards of FNMs don’t believe in their young leaders, then who will? How could the FNMs expect the country to believe in their new leaders, and they don’t. Mr. Ingraham’s season has come and gone and yet the FNMs still think he has the answers. The Bahamian electorate should not be deceived into thinking that something great is about to happen because of Mr. Ingraham’s return.

He is the same man who lost touch with the Bahamian people during the second term of his administration. He is the same man who angered the Bahamian electorate with the referendum and the same man who ultimately lost the election in 2002. Mr. Ingraham can not take this country any further than he has already taken us. This country needs NEW leadership.

The PLP is no different from the FNM. Their rudderless ship has been floating for the last three years with no direction. They believe that selling our country to Multi-national corporations through foreign investment is a vision. They believe that prostituting our birth-right is hope for our people.

The PLP is of the impression that jobs can solve our problems. If it could the FNM would have had the solution when they brought those many jobs through Atlantis. Our people need more than jobs; they need to be empowered to own their own country and to own their jobs. Our people need to be employers rather than employees. A 9 to 5 job can never make a man rich; so why does the FNM and the PLP want to keep our people in the web of poverty?

Dr. Bernard Nottage’s return to the PLP echo’s strongly that that generation of leaders has lost their integrity. His political move was no different from his former cabinet colleague Hubert Alexander Ingraham. History will remember them as back stabbers and leaders who were only interested in their own selfish gain. How could this man who last week said the PLP was directionless and corrupt jump on a stage this week and say the PLP is the best party for the nation? I am confused! What changed about the PLP in one week?

The nation is sick and tired of spineless, jelly back so call political leaders who ride the backs of other people for their own selfish gain. How could Dr. Nottage abandon all those young people who believed in him? He sold them on the idea that we need something new. New leadership, new direction, new hope, but he went back to the same old thing. I am confused!

What type of message are we sending to our young people? The message that you can compromise what you believe in and that personal gain is more important than principle. No wonder our country is in a state of disarray. Our political leaders have no principles. Yet they still think they have something to contribute.

Perry Christie, Hubert Ingraham and Dr, Bernard Nottage represent the old boys club. All protégés of Sir Lynden Pingling who have a per notion that they all have a divine right to govern this country and they will all do what it takes to make it happen.

The BDM would like to put the three of you on notice Mr. Perry Christie, Mr. Hubert Ingraham and Dr, Bernard Knottage , the hand writing is on the wall. You all have been weighed, measured and you have been found wanting. Your time and your season have ended, yet you refuse to let the next generation emerge. You will be judged by the Bahamian people and your judgment will come swiftly

The BDM will not allow you, Mr. Hubert Ingraham to deceive the people into thinking that you are a knight in shining armor coming to save the people. You are finished and your contribution should only be to support the next generation of leaders.

Mr. Christie, you can no longer hide behind the church thinking God will slip you in again. God is not mocked. The people’s eyes are opened to your scams to get power. It is disgraceful to use God as a front to get political power. This generation sees you for who you are, visionless and directionless.

Mr. Nottage the BDM call your political move disgraceful and was clearly motivated by the lust for power. You speak of service as if service can only be offered in the PLP but it is clear that you know nothing of service only self. The next generation of leaders hang our heads down in shame because of what you have done. If the people you led for the last 5 years can’t trust you, why do you think the Bahamian people should trust you? You have no integrity.

“The mark of a true leader in not measured by the number of follows one has but by the number of leaders one creates. The mark of a true master is not measured by the number of disciples one have but by the number of masters one develops”.

From this measuring stick, Mr. Hubert Ingraham is not a true leader because he has failed to develop anyone capable of taking over when he is gone. Mr. Perry Christie, and Dr. Bernard Nottage have also failed because they too have not developed any leaders or masters. They have failed to plant their seed in the next generation and therefore, their seed will die with them.

If the next generations of leaders fail to emerge, our country will fall in utter chaos and our children and children’s children will suffer. The BDM represents that next generation of leaders. We are the only hope for a brighter tomorrow. The time has now come for us as a people to make some radical political changes in our country. It now time to try something new. Time to try the BDM.

casualobserver
11-23-05, - 10:12 AM
I had questioned earlier whether any politicians monitor this site for public opinion and reaction to todays political climate. Most political party members (can't call them leaders yet) seem to use it to post press releases, but don't enter any dialogue on the resulting commentary. It shows us that they are only interested in information travelling one way; from the party to the people. This practise, in my humble opinion, comes off as esoteric and insulting to the people that they are elected to lead.

You have a number of interesting points in your posting Mr. Stuart, but before too much effort is exerted in replying, is the BDM interested in dialogue or just proclamations?

CG
11-23-05, - 11:37 AM
I had questioned earlier whether any politicians monitor this site for public opinion and reaction to todays political climate. Most political party members (can't call them leaders yet) seem to use it to post press releases, but don't enter any dialogue on the resulting commentary. It shows us that they are only interested in information travelling one way; from the party to the people. This practise, in my humble opinion, comes off as esoteric and insulting to the people that they are elected to lead.
You have a number of interesting points in your posting Mr. Stuart, but before too much effort is exerted in replying, is the BDM interested in dialogue or just proclamations?

A good point!

Rory
11-23-05, - 11:39 AM
I had questioned earlier whether any politicians monitor this site for public opinion and reaction to todays political climate. Most political party members (can't call them leaders yet) seem to use it to post press releases, but don't enter any dialogue on the resulting commentary. It shows us that they are only interested in information travelling one way; from the party to the people. This practise, in my humble opinion, comes off as esoteric and insulting to the people that they are elected to lead.
You have a number of interesting points in your posting Mr. Stuart, but before too much effort is exerted in replying, is the BDM interested in dialogue or just proclamations?


I think it is someone posting for him ... noone has ever answered in the past .. though it would be good to wait and see ..

gian_18778
11-23-05, - 12:07 PM
I think it is someone posting for him ... noone has ever answered in the past .. though it would be good to wait and see ..



Yeah I'm waiting to see responses as well. It'll be nice to have some dialog w/ someone directly from the political arena.

I'll wait and see......

Jessup
11-23-05, - 12:11 PM
it is hard enough to get past the grammatical errors and misspellings in this 'tirade,' to consider the merits of it's contents.

Obviously Mr. Stuart and his colleagues monitored the conventions and crafted their response around what they feel is burning issues for the Bahamian electorate. However, as intimated by Casual Observer, it seems a bit starched and sermon-like, with no apparent facility for dialog.

Another point, the term 'Young Turk' was coined for a specific purpose and has useful application as it relates to The Bahamas. We can not argue that our current political leaders (despite Mr. Stuart's proclamation, they are the leaders of the people's choosing)should step aside and hand over the reins to unproven rookies.

Two of the most attractive things about a potential leader - to his/her subjects - is maturity and experience. If age alone determines the career of a politician, then we should be voting them in fresh out of university. Now that is hardly a wise course of action, for history has taught us that where experience is lacking, emotions will occupy. It (history)also proves that the greatest leadership of the past, for the most part, has come from the matured statesmen, ie; Churchill, Carter, Reagan, Charles, etc.

It is, in my opinion, a sense of entitlement that seems to bewitch those seeking power in today's electoral arena. Though disappointed, why should Tommy Turnquest be dejected because FNMs did not choose him as their leader? Surely the philosophy, ideals and platforms of the FNM are larger than any one man? The best leaders are thrust into that position by a crescendo of support from the people they are to serve - not by the amount of arms they twist in backroom deals or any notion that they deserve it for time served.

While I agree wholeheartedly that new generations of leaders should be groomed within the ranks, I remain confident that our elder statesmen/women provide the best leadership possible for this country. And barring any electoral shenanigans, we really do get who we vote for.

If the BDM is to become the new government administrators, it certainly will not be on the basis of Mr. Stuart's pablum puking tantrums. Rather, the enlightened and informed electorate that he speaks of deserves to hear his party's position on the issues important to them - sans his own brand of rhetoric.

gian_18778
11-23-05, - 12:22 PM
You know what. How much does it cost to conduct a live press conference? Reason I asked is because, if it is not too much of a headache why these leaders of oppositions not hold press conferences to vent their grieviences?

Prosperity1
11-23-05, - 01:55 PM
The following is a press release done by Senator The Hon. Damian A.L. Gomez in response to remarks made by Senator Dr. Marcus Bethel, minister of Health, in his address to the delegates at the PLP convention. By the way I called him to inquire as to whether or not he would be interested in responding to some of your questions or comments and he has assured me that he would participate.

Chilcot Manor
No. 9 Brooklyn Road

Nassau, N.P.

The Bahamas

dalglaw@coralwave.com
FROM THE DESK OF

Senator The Honourable Damian A. L. Gomez

J.P., Ll.B. (Hons) Ll.M. (Com Law)

November 22, 2005

PRESS RELEASE

Many persons read with alarm the Ministry of Health’s Report on the impact of Immigration upon the health services of The Bahamas.
Further the recent fire in Pigeon Pea and the Mud, Abaco underscores the Government’s problems in finding money and other resources to meet the needs of immigrant communities in The Bahamas.
The growing demands of immigrant communities upon:
Social services
Education services
Police and fire services
Health services
Housing services and now even Crown lands
begs the question of the adequacy of the Immigration Act, Chapter 191 and its predecessor legislation (hereinafter referred to as “the Act”) or alternatively of its utilization by successive governments.

Section 30(6)(e) of the Act empowers the Director of Immigration to require an immigrant applying for a work permit or his employer to give such bond as is appropriate to secure payment of any public charges that may be incurred in respect of the Applicant or his dependants. Clearly, the limitless drain on public resources has not been stemmed by the proper enforcement of the surety obligations required by the Section 30(6) (e) imposition if at all employed by the Director of Immigration. It would be expected that some investigation be carried out to identify the dependants of the immigrant applicants and the required needs of both the immigrant and each of his dependants which would include the matters listed in paragraph 3 hereof, so as to facilitate an accurate computation of the cost associated with providing these services to the immigrant. It is obvious that no government in the modern history of The Bahamas has effectively implemented such an exercise.
Having regard to the Section 30(6)(c) of the Act requirement that the Immigrant applying for a work permit must satisfy the Director of Immigration that he is able to maintain himself and his dependants in The Bahamas, one can only wonder why the uncontrollable drain on the public purse has unabatedly burgeoned during the tenure of successive governments going back to 1963 when this issue was debated in a bi-partisan manner in the House of Assembly.
Surely, the public are entitled to ask about the whereabouts of employers of these unfortunate persons particularly given the sub human conditions in which many of them live in The Bahamas. Surely the public ought to expect that it not be required to pay the social costs of the immigrant communities which costs ought properly to be paid by the immigrants themselves or their employers. Obviously, this expectation has not been translated into the proper execution of the provisions of the Act.
Should Bahamians not be insisting that Immigrants living in the shanty towns strewn across the northern and central Bahamas breaching numerous laws including the Building Code and Health and Safety related legislation be treated as having demonstrated that they are patently unable to maintain themselves in The Bahamas. Furthermore, ought not the Government to be insistent that as part of the application process its agencies be permitted to examine the housing, medical, educational and other necessary amenities being made available to immigrants and their dependants by their respective employers in The Bahamas so as to satisfy the Director of Immigration that the immigrant is able to maintain himself and his dependants in The Bahamas in accordance with Section 30(6) (c) of the Act.
Our failure to properly apply Section 30 of the Act by successive administrations is tantamount to sowing the wind. It is therefore not surprising that we are alarmed by the Ministry of Health’s Report and the seemingly endless social and fiscal problems associated with the immigration problem of today’s Bahamas. The public ought to require that the Act be properly implemented instead of the political football game encircling this most serious of issues. After all our national security is at stake!
Regards.

Senator the Honourable Damian A. L. Gomez

lynette
11-23-05, - 02:38 PM
The thing I love about this site is that I can learn something as I read these posts. Thank You.:lafs:

If what is stated above is accurate then all that is needed is for the laws of the country to be enforced. If you cant follow the law suffer the consequences. :hammer: If that means you have to leave then you have to leave.

In fact the law need to be enforced in more areas than just this one.:hammer:

Tafadhali
11-23-05, - 03:43 PM
why is this guy always a day late on everything?

licks2
11-23-05, - 05:16 PM
I would like for you to show the people how are you any different! You run with the same dogs and you hang around the same "circus" performers! You talk kaka like they do...soooooo!:dgi:

You get no hand up on the sly...why must older folk give the reings of power over to you because you are a young man? You must be out of your damn mind!

And you are right, these people are no fools...we heard that dog barked before. You get no power because we don't think you are ready for it! Pure and simple! So until you show us that you can...sit back and watch the big dogs run this race!

Those old people earn their strips young man...how dare you demand that they be placed aside. They gat wisdom bouy! Respect that! And until you do...this one swing voter you can count out! I got enough stress to put up with the other "circuses"...no time left for "jive talking"! You ger havta come better than that. Don't believe me? Record ya sef and listen to it...same slop...just coming outta a younger pie hole! You playin the same game, using the same rules set up by them same big dogs.

As far as I can see it, the BDM lusts for the same power..."you just feel entitled"...and you cannot get the power for your damn self...now you are asking us the people to give it to you! Just because you are young!:dunce:

You are going to have to earn it like everyone else in the past...show us something new...something true...something honest...something democratic!

In my world there is no such thing as a great leader...there are only excellent people...they just live...and we follow them because their lives acts as beacons in the dark of lies and hot air coming out PIE HOLES of sooo many "leaders"! Mind you, they don't even have to look back to see if we are following...their example act as honey to the fly.

A leader we cannot make you...start walking...and if you give off hope and excellence, we will follow. Otherwise...you are no better than the rest!

So, shut the hell up and start walking!:fly:

garnelleo
11-23-05, - 05:22 PM
It would be so funny, if someone on this forum, say (for example) me was a real politician in disguise. Or what would be more funny, if parties made up users on B.I.com and then made up some elaborate scheme to bad mouth the other party , or big up one party. Or if, I was actually Clint, and had nothing else to do but have a split personality, on the forum.

casualobserver
11-23-05, - 05:25 PM
I would like for you to show the people how are you any different! You run with the same dogs and you hang around the same "circus" performers! You talk kaka like they do...soooooo!:dgi:
You get no hand up on the sly...why must older folk give the reings of power over to you because you are a young man? You must be out of your damn mind!
And you are right, these people are no fools...we heard that dog barked before. You get no power because we don't think you are not ready for it! Pure and simple! So until you show us that you can...sit back and watch the big dogs run this race!
Those old people earn their strips young man...how dare you demand that they be placed aside. They gat wisdom bouy! Respect that! And until you do...this one swing voter you can count out! I got enough stress to put up with the other "circuses"...no time left for "jive talking"! You ger havta come better than that. Don't believe me? Record ya sef and listen to it...same slop...just coming outta a younger pie hole! You playin the same game, using the same rules set up by them same big dogs.
As far as I can see it, the BDM lusts for the same power..."you just feel entitled"...and you cannot get the power for you damn self...now you are asking us the people to give it to you! Just because you are young!:dunce:
You are going to have to earn it like everyone else in the past...show us something new...something true...something honest...something democratic!
In my world there is no such thing as a great leader...there are only excellent people...they just live...and we follow them because their lives acts as beacons in the dark of lies and hot air coming out PIE HOLES of sooo many "leaders"! Mind you, they don't even have to look back to see if we are following...their example act as honey to the fly.
A leader we cannot make you...start walking...and if you give off hope and excellence, we will follow. Otherwise...you are no better than the rest!
So, shut the hell up and start walking!:fly:


That's it licks, way to make him feel WELCOME.:sarcastic :footmouth

I'll give him a day or two to get involved and have an opinion on something, then I gotta get in line behind you. The younger leaders should be prepared to launch an e-campaign nowadays. Lord knows how many votes a web savvy candidate may get from the otherwise disenfranchized and as yet unregistered young voters...

Delroy
11-23-05, - 05:44 PM
Please let's keep this discussion mature.

casualobserver
11-23-05, - 05:51 PM
Please let's keep this discussion mature.

Always.

Delroy. You have titles for "registered user", "senior user", "Kingdom Worker" as well as others like "BDM" for Mr. Stuart. Can someone search the user list for those titles. How many BDM members are there online? Are there similar PLP and FNM ones?

While I got you on the line...

Any chance of adding the posting date to each post so we know if it is a few days or even months old?