So could you be PM if your father was a pedophile, or would you prefer to be judged as an individual? How about if your father killed someone in a car accident, you couldn't get a driver's licence? Maybe your cousin stole a soda when he was a kid, so now you don't get to drink anything. You see how ridiculous this is getting, don't you?
As for awarding contracts to his own company, tell me what percentage of the company he owned. How many qualified contractors could have bid on the job? The answers are 7 and 2.
Now tell me how many construction companies exist on the island and why the largest financial contributor to the PLP won that contract. While you're at it, tell me how it is better to receive a kickback from a contractor instead of investing in a company in a fair market?
Come now CO you bigger than this,or have you caught that disease that infects some people on this board (when you can't find and answer resort to name calling & stupidity).

Come now CO you bigger than this,or have you caught that disease that infects some people on this board (when you can't find and answer resort to name calling & stupidity).



No, no. You're taking it the wrong way.

It's hypothetical and in direct reference to the example de redhead made.


I know that Brent would like to be Pime Minister, and that is an admirable ambition, but while every Bahamian should feel that they can one day become Prime Minister, I don't think that Mr. Symonette has a realistic chance. This is not because he is white, but because of what he represents. I could not expect to be Prime Minister if I were a known pedofile, and Brent Symonette cannot expect to become Prime Minister because in a lot of persons minds what his father did was almost as bad. If you are white and on this site, I would venture that you have a better chance of becoming Prime Minister than Mr Symonette (man or woman) that is just the way it is. But don't cry for Mr Symonette, I don't think he will miss the Prime Minister's salary, but then again he won't be able to award contracts to anymore of his companies ......aw shucks! I really feel for him.

No, no. You're taking it the wrong way.
It's hypothetical and in direct reference to the example de redhead made.
Understood.

Well, I have been interested, in what I have seen posted.
However, for some, they were open minded even if they opposed to what I posted. But a number of you were very arrogant, and very abrupt, just like a lot of the arrogant FNM's like Brent Symonnette, son of UBP, Carl Bethel, Frank Watson, etc.
I will not allow my first time vote, let FNM arrogance creep back to power, under a new generation of leaders, I may vote for the FNM, but not this crew sorry.
As for the facts that I gave you, they are true, and Bahamians are being put first.
My "X" will go for the PLP, the lesser of the two evils.

The sad thing is: the support of any evil, shall damn you to hell!...
Ya need to consider the CDR...lol

Come now CO you bigger than this,or have you caught that disease that infects some people on this board (when you can't find and answer resort to name calling & stupidity).


boy, yall hear Marichal talking...
lol

boy, yall hear Marichal talking...
lol
What!

Well, I have been interested, in what I have seen posted.
However, for some, they were open minded even if they opposed to what I posted. But a number of you were very arrogant, and very abrupt, just like a lot of the arrogant FNM's like Brent Symonnette, son of UBP, Carl Bethel, Frank Watson, etc.
I will not allow my first time vote, let FNM arrogance creep back to power, under a new generation of leaders, I may vote for the FNM, but not this crew sorry.
As for the facts that I gave you, they are true, and Bahamians are being put first.
My "X" will go for the PLP, the lesser of the two evils.


You seem like an educated person, so I will respond to you in a similar manner. When you compare what a particular government has done for the country you need to consider what they have been handed when they came to power, as well as what they have done.

You stated that foreign reserves increased from 200 to 800 million under the current PLP. While that is all good and dandy, ask yourself what the foreign reserves looked like when the FNM were handed the reigns. I don't know personally, but I just want you to consider this. Also consider why the reserves were kept so low during the FNM. Right now the govt. has a hiring freeze. I think it would make much more sense for the PLP to free up some of that capital and invest in the country. It isn't doing a thing for the nation to just have that money sitting in the bank. That money could better be used to help our financial sector grow or to improve education standards in the country.

Let us not forget that the major task of the FNM when they came to power was to restore the reputation of the nation. Vast amounts of time and money were spent to tackle the drug trade in the Bahamas. Do you know how many movies I have seen set in the 80s or 90s where the drug lord had a home or base in the Bahamas? Far too many...

Let us not forget the housing situation. While the PLP may be very focused on creating new homes and that is great, it is pointless to have homes if you don't stimulate the economy to provide buyers for these homes. The FNM was more focused on the economy than home ownership. So it is simply a matter of what is more important to you.

Both governments have done a pretty good job with what they have been handed so don't write them off yet. Instead, wait until election time and see what the prospectus for each party is. This will let you know what they hope to achieve in the next 5 years. Then you can decide what is most important to you and vote according. Regardless of how you feel about a person or a party, your vote should be cast for the party that will achieve the goals you personally think are the most important to you and the nation over the next 5 years.

So could you be PM if your father was a pedophile, or would you prefer to be judged as an individual? How about if your father killed someone in a car accident, you couldn't get a driver's licence? Maybe your cousin stole a soda when he was a kid, so now you don't get to drink anything. You see how ridiculous this is getting, don't you?
As for awarding contracts to his own company, tell me what percentage of the company he owned. How many qualified contractors could have bid on the job? The answers are 7 and 2.
Now tell me how many construction companies exist on the island and why the largest financial contributor to the PLP won that contract. While you're at it, tell me how it is better to receive a kickback from a contractor instead of investing in a company in a fair market?


I think that you may have taken my quote a bit too litreral. When I made this post I did not mean to state that Mr. Symonette did anything, what I was trying to convey was that while any Bahamian should be able to become Prime Minister, in reality it isn't necessarily so (The reference to being a pedophile was a round about reference to another FNM big shot). The actions that make it unlikely that Mr. Symonette can become Prime Minister were his father's actions. Many Bahamians can still remember vividly what the good old days were like. Many will take great plaesure in punishing the son for the sins of the father.

Let us not forget the housing situation. While the PLP may be very focused on creating new homes and that is great, it is pointless to have homes if you don't stimulate the economy to provide buyers for these homes. The FNM was more focused on the economy than home ownership. So it is simply a matter of what is more important to you.



If you own a home you should know how important home ownership is to a first time home owner. When I first bought my home I acted like it was no big deal, but inside I was as proud as a peacock, it was a huge deal. The feeling of having your own home is truly uplifting and should be applauded.

I think that you may have taken my quote a bit too litreral. When I made this post I did not mean to state that Mr. Symonette did anything, what I was trying to convey was that while any Bahamian should be able to become Prime Minister, in reality it isn't necessarily so (The reference to being a pedophile was a round about reference to another FNM big shot). The actions that make it unlikely that Mr. Symonette can become Prime Minister were his father's actions. Many Bahamians can still remember vividly what the good old days were like. Many will take great plaesure in punishing the son for the sins of the father.

Are you one of them that will punish him for the 'sins of the father'? Or are you gonna judge Brent on his own merits? After all Perry's father participate in the 'sins' of Mr symonette father by being a die in the wool UBP.Should we punish Perry christie?

I am a young voter, and I will not support the FNM in the next elections, just for the simple facts that they brought back a washed-up politician, instead of a younger vibrant leader.
I think Ingraham did ok, but his time is over, I would condemn the PLP, if after Christie leaves, they don't promote someone from a younger generation for leader of that party.
But as I see it now, the PLP is the party for the youth, and respects the youth.
I personally heard Frank Watson say on Immediate Response with Darold Miller when asked about the potential in the youth in politics, he said, " Neither the FNM or the PLP has any vibrant youths that I think can handle the Leadership now or for quite some time, Ingraham is the only man who can do it now. The youth don't have it right now."
That was a slap in the face to every young person in this country.
I can't vote for that, and let's face it, all parties mess up at times, but the PLP has done alot in this term, they got my vote this election.



After reading dumb comments like this I believe the FNM are right. Apart from you blowing an opinion of one member of the FNM way out of proportion to reflect the entire party's views -- your stupidity also neglects the history of the PLP having the same leaders for more than 20 years.

Are you one of them that will punish him for the 'sins of the father'? Or are you gonna judge Brent on his own merits? After all Perry's father participate in the 'sins' of Mr symonette father by being a die in the wool UBP.Should we punish Perry christie?


Mr. Christie and Mr. Symonett's fathers had completely different roles in the UBP, and they cannot be paralelled. Also Mr. Christie has gone on the record condemning the practices and actions of the UBP, besides Mr. Christie was among those that opposed the remnants of the UBP, the BDP, during the early 70s.

What I would like you to take note of is what these men have done when they have attained positions of varying degrees of public authority. As Prime Minister Perry Christie has personally championed The Urban Renewal Project, whether you recognize it's benefits or not, it is obviously designed to assist and empower the least among us (the least financially, before y'all think something else). Mr. Christie has mandated that his Ministers enact policies which assist the people who need it most, that is why Shane Gibson and Melanie Griffin have been so busy.

The only thing that I have ever heard about Mr. Symonette's history in public service is the issue with the airport contract issuance. The fact that he still states publicly that he did nothing wrong says to me that he is supposed to be able to do these kinds of things, just like his father was supposed to always be our premiere, what are we thinking questioning our generous benefactor.

Many ex UBPs are still angry with The PLP for taking away their power, these persons smeared The PLP for decades and in 1992 those seeds finally bore fruit. I feel that all in all The FNM did a better job than I would have expected, but it is still obvious to me which party really cares for the people more. Just because you or I don't need social programs does not mean that we should take them away from those that do. Bahamians need to be more compassionate to our own.

Mr. Christie and Mr. Symonett's fathers had completely different roles in the UBP, and they cannot be paralelled.
Yet people paint with sucha broad brush that the kids today think UBP's were akin to Nazi storm troopers.

Also Mr. Christie has gone on the record condemning the practices and actions of the UBP, besides Mr. Christie was among those that opposed the remnants of the UBP, the BDP, during the early 70s.

Can you get into the PLP without condemning the UBP and the FNM? I don't think so.

What I would like you to take note of is what these men have done when they have attained positions of varying degrees of public authority. As Prime Minister Perry Christie has personally championed The Urban Renewal Project, whether you recognize it's benefits or not, it is obviously designed to assist and empower the least among us (the least financially, before y'all think something else). Mr. Christie has mandated that his Ministers enact policies which assist the people who need it most, that is why Shane Gibson and Melanie Griffin have been so busy.

Mr Christie has been the Prime Minister. Brent has had no such opportunity. PM Christie can (and has) delegated responsibilities to his ministers. Brent has had no such opportunity. Mr. Christie has the benefit of the entire goverment and civil service to make changes. Brent has had no such opportunity. What did Christie accomplish before he became PM? I can't think of a thing, although i am always subject to correction.

The only thing that I have ever heard about Mr. Symonette's history in public service is the issue with the airport contract issuance.

You forgot Min of Tourism and Attorney General.

The fact that he still states publicly that he did nothing wrong says to me that he is supposed to be able to do these kinds of things,
Amazing what gets remembered. Out of all BOTH companies that could have done the job, the company that Brent and his brother owned a minority share in came in as the lowest bidder! We can debate whether he helped them be the lowest bidder until next year, but I know for a fact that his hands are completely off of BHM in terms of management. As a result, the Bahamian public paid more money for a job that was done poorly by the other company. The alleged impropriety caused by the opposition resulted in fiscal squandering of public money.

just like his father was supposed to always be our premiere, what are we thinking questioning our generous benefactor.

faceitiousness noted

Many ex UBPs are still angry with The PLP for taking away their power, these persons smeared The PLP for decades and in 1992 those seeds finally bore fruit.

Its called the Honorable Opposition, and that is what they do for a living. The PLP did it after '92 as well.


I feel that all in all The FNM did a better job than I would have expected, but it is still obvious to me which party really cares for the people more.

Do they really care for the people more, or do they care for thier power and just need to satisfy the masses to keep it? Really, is life in Nassau and Grand Bahama an indication that this government is shedding a tear for the conditions in which we live? Look at crime, traffic, road conditions, schooling, illegal immigration - unless your driving on Tonique's Road it's the same old, same old.

Just because you or I don't need social programs does not mean that we should take them away from those that do. Bahamians need to be more compassionate to our own.

Agreed wholeheartedly, but why should so much money earmarked for social programs get diverted into inefficient civil bureaucracy and expense accounts? The end result is that less money or resources make it to those that need it. You must agree with me here - these programs can be much better run than they are now.

After reading dumb comments like this I believe the FNM are right. Apart from you blowing an opinion of one member of the FNM way out of proportion to reflect the entire party's views -- your stupidity also neglects the history of the PLP having the same leaders for more than 20 years.


You are right that the PLP did have the same Leader for more than twenty years, but you also have to admit that the FNM's election of Ingraham does NOT speak favourably of their view towards their future leaders. That is the point that Speaker raised and the one that your artful name calling sought to avoid.

You also have to admit that the FNM's election of Ingraham does NOT speak favourably of their view towards their future leaders.

This opinion is extremely deceptive.

Bear in mind that the FNM had no one from the younger pool who was strong enough to combat the tactics of the PLP.

Everyone is pulling an angle on this one - Young vs Old - Black vs White - even Rich vs Poor.

Let's talk political strategy here.

Do you really believe, regardless of the good job that Turnquest did holding the FNM together, that he would have been able to pull an FNM win? What about Dion Foulkes, whose campaign was indeed a good move for him politically?

Face it. Neither of them had what it takes on this round of political warfare. The move to put Ingraham back into the leadership position was a very smart one and took a lot of wind out of the PLP's sails. With one of the younger FNMs in place, the PLP would have had an easy ride to at least three or four more consecutive elections.

Mr. Speaker has simply fallen into one of the political traps that the PLP has put out to ensnare those who are not aware of political strategy. A party should always operate on the principle of the strongest persons taking the forefront, regardless of their age bracket. The FNM did this and now are, at the very least, a formidable challenge to the PLP.

It is better to let the old dogs of war fight it out right now. The younger generation has NOT found its voice yet (in either party). We will eventually, but all things in due time. Politically, this nation has a few trouble spots right now that are delicate enough to break a political career permanently. With both parties planning on dealing harshly with illegal immigration, just to give one example, it is best to let those with advanced politcal careers to take care of things. It will be easier for them to retire and step aside if a disastrous political move is made.

The next few years of politics will have to be very dirty for them to be effective. Younger politicians with sense and an advanced degree of intelligence will sit out this election, and perhaps the next, all while watching the elders, learning strategies, forming alliances and even breaking loyalties.

As younger persons we cannot fall for the "give the younger generation a chance" outcries. We have to face the facts and collectively admit that we are not ready yet - on both sides of the political fence.