:shhh: Racism:

Has Black Bahamians forgiven, White Bahamians for the past?

Is there a need for white Bahamians of the UBP era to publicly acknowledge that the segregation practice by that party was wrong and they are now willing to apologize to all who were offended by such practices?

Rumors have it that there are still places in the Bahamas that a Black man won’t be welcome. True or false

Are there any areas in the Bahamas you feel not welcome because of your race.

Feel free to answer these questions or post some of your own. I believe that not until as Bahamians we can deal with this issue, true healing can begin.

In 2005, as a proud black man, I don't need or seek the approval of any man, especially any white man. So as far as I am concerned, I could care less what a caucasion thinks of me. I refuse to conform to that mentality that somebody owes me something!!! Life is full of obstacles and there is no time to waste on excuses based on injustices of the past. The AMBITIOUS and DRIVEN few will find a way!!!! Yes, we must remember our history as well we know our ABC's but it should never be used for political purposes, ie swinging the citizens for votes. 2005 issues must never be shaped, planned or developed through 1967 spectacles. This is in keeping with our country's motto - FORWARD, UPWARD, ONWARD, TOGETHER!!!

In 2005, as a proud black man, I don't need or seek the approval of any man, especially any white man. So as far as I am concerned, I could care less what a caucasion thinks of me. I refuse to conform to that mentality that somebody owes me something!!! Life is full of obstacles and there is no time to waste on excuses based on injustices of the past. The AMBITIOUS and DRIVEN few will find a way!!!! Yes, we must remember our history as well we know our ABC's but it should never be used for political purposes, ie swinging the citizens for votes. 2005 issues must never be shaped, planned or developed through 1967 spectacles. This is in keeping with our country's motto - FORWARD, UPWARD, ONWARD, TOGETHER!!!

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In 2005, as a proud black man, I don't need or seek the approval of any man, especially any white man. So as far as I am concerned, I could care less what a caucasion thinks of me. I refuse to conform to that mentality that somebody owes me something!!! Life is full of obstacles and there is no time to waste on excuses based on injustices of the past. The AMBITIOUS and DRIVEN few will find a way!!!! Yes, we must remember our history as well we know our ABC's but it should never be used for political purposes, ie swinging the citizens for votes. 2005 issues must never be shaped, planned or developed through 1967 spectacles. This is in keeping with our country's motto - FORWARD, UPWARD, ONWARD, TOGETHER!!!

Right on my brother, right on!

I also don't need anybod to apologize to me, or give me anything. What upsets me is seeing supporters and apologists for Brent Symonette (The embodiment of all that was evil during the UBP's reign) suggesting that anyone who brings up that past is playing the race card.

Those running for public office have a duty to be better than the rest of us, Brent Symonette has benefitted handsomely from the actions of his father and the UBP, he has never publicly denounced the actions of his father so must be seen as condoning them. I don't have a problem with a white politician or Prime Minister I just have a problem with THIS WHITE MAN as a white politician or Prime Minister. I think it insults all those who struggled to bring us majority rule that so many young Bahamians think that remembering our history is racist, I guess then the attitudes of the persons who struggled to give us PROUD BLACK MEN a fair shake in this country were racist also, because they dared to oppose their white masters.

Do not let those that oppressed us muddy the debate with terms such as "reverse discrimination" and "playing the race card", for without the initial discrimination there could be no reverse discrimination and had there been no persecution of our fore fathers the race card would not even be an issue. If Brent Symonette or anyone else that feels the PLP is playing the race card is truly concerned about discrimination let them say how evil the practices of the UBP were, or maybe THAT was not racism and discrimination.

:shhh: Racism:
Has Black Bahamians forgiven, White Bahamians for the past?
Is there a need for white Bahamians of the UBP era to publicly acknowledge that the segregation practice by that party was wrong and they are now willing to apologize to all who were offended by such practices?

No there is no need for white Bahamians of the UBP era to apologize for anything unless they themselves have something to apologize for. Just because someone was alive then doesn't mean that they have done something wrong.

Everyone should acknowledge that racism and discrimination is wrong. No matter when, how or why it happened. Why this is coming to the forefront now that Symonette has been democratically elected as a deputy candiate is suspicous. It serves no purpose other than opening a partially healed wound for more salt to be added. I find it petty and shallow to be rehashing the life of the pre-independence Bahamas anyway.


Rumors have it that there are still places in the Bahamas that a Black man won’t be welcome. True or false

You're welcome at my place. That's the only place I have any say on who enters or doesn't. Sometimes the robbers don't heed my 'no enter' sign though.


Are there any areas in the Bahamas you feel not welcome because of your race.

There are lots of places all over the Bahamas that one could feel unsafe and thereby unwelcome. This is true of everyone as crime can strike black and white the same.


Feel free to answer these questions or post some of your own. I believe that not until as Bahamians we can deal with this issue, true healing can begin.

Time now in a certain members words "they laughing all the way to the bank".If any one remembers what was Pop Symonettes' position in the UBP? No FNM on the face of this earth can tell me that the removal of the act,wasn't done to benefit certain people.So when yinna say foolishness like Brent has nothing to do with Pop,I beg to differ,because every day he & Bobby are on the face of this earth they will be benefiting from their fathers deeds.Now on to the racist path,it seems like he is to me.I know one thing that is definite about him is that he is an elitist & yinna could deny that all ya'll want to, but you will never see Brent in the ghetto or hanging with the common man.Mind you if thats all right with you, I say go ahead & vote for him, just dn't try & make the man out to be Joe Public because he's never been & never will be your Average Joe.

Time now in a certain members words "they laughing all the way to the bank".If any one remembers what was Pop Symonettes' position in the UBP? No FNM on the face of this earth can tell me that the removal of the act,wasn't done to benefit certain people.So when yinna say foolishness like Brent has nothing to do with Pop,I beg to differ,because every day he & Bobby are on the face of this earth they will be benefiting from their fathers deeds.

Bobby died years ago.


Now on to the racist path,it seems like he is to me.I know one thing that is definite about him is that he is an elitist & yinna could deny that all ya'll want to, but you will never see Brent in the ghetto or hanging with the common man.Mind you if thats all right with you, I say go ahead & vote for him, just dn't try & make the man out to be Joe Public because he's never been & never will be your Average Joe.


No doubt that Brent enjoys the finer things in life, he's stinkin' rich. He hasn't been a slackass, living on the interest, or squandering his money though. He used to be quite humble and down to earth, though I haven't spoken to him in years. I don't know if he is an elitist, but put yourself in his shoes for a second. Can you imagine having your father projected on you for your entire life? There is a lot of animosity toward Brent, which is probably a reason he doesn't hang in the ghetto. Another question: if you could hang somewhere outside of the ghetto, wouldn't you want to do that too?

In 2005, as a proud black man, I don't need or seek the approval of any man, especially any white man. So as far as I am concerned, I could care less what a caucasion thinks of me. I refuse to conform to that mentality that somebody owes me something!!! Life is full of obstacles and there is no time to waste on excuses based on injustices of the past. The AMBITIOUS and DRIVEN few will find a way!!!! Yes, we must remember our history as well we know our ABC's but it should never be used for political purposes, ie swinging the citizens for votes. 2005 issues must never be shaped, planned or developed through 1967 spectacles. This is in keeping with our country's motto - FORWARD, UPWARD, ONWARD, TOGETHER!!!

Short and to the point… *round of applause *

ha ha .. the bbman crackin me up .. say apologize ... yeah i'm sorry your a moron..:shaky:

Bobby died years ago.
No doubt that Brent enjoys the finer things in life, he's stinkin' rich. He hasn't been a slackass, living on the interest, or squandering his money though. He used to be quite humble and down to earth, though I haven't spoken to him in years. I don't know if he is an elitist, but put yourself in his shoes for a second. Can you imagine having your father projected on you for your entire life? There is a lot of animosity toward Brent, which is probably a reason he doesn't hang in the ghetto. Another question: if you could hang somewhere outside of the ghetto, wouldn't you want to do that too?
FYI: I'm not running for a political post.As to the part about his father it goes with the territory,"spoils of war CO spoils of war".Dn't you think the FBI will always watch John Gotti's kids?I really dn't think ghetto kids give a flying fig about Brent ya know & he's not the only rich white kid & some of them do hang,but it's mostly the race car drivers,motorbike riders & football players.

FYI: I'm not running for a political post.As to the part about his father it goes with the territory,"spoils of war CO spoils of war".Don't you think the FBI will always watch John Gotti's kids?

Ironic that 'Growing Up Gotti', a reality show on some network is celebrated, isn't it? Personally, I don't care for the young punks, but there are millions who watch the show religiously and they're not expecting someone to get killed either. They're entertaining as NY Goobahs, not the spawn of a racketeering murderer.

Other than the rum running, what did Sir Roland do that was factually illegal? The laws as written in those days should be condemned as horrific, but to the best of my knowledge it was a typical English colony law system, not the sole brainchild of Symonette. Was the rum running against Bahamian law, or just US law? Anyone know?


I really dn't think ghetto kids give a flying fig about Brent ya know & he's not the only rich white kid & some of them do hang,but it's mostly the race car drivers,motorbike riders & football players.


I think you're right about the ghetto kids. To the best of my knowledge Brent was raised to be a gentleman of class, his future in law designed by his parents from the day he was born. I'm fully aware that he wasn't the only rich kid, but racing and football weren't his 'thing'. Where did the 'white' get mixed into 'elitist'? Brent may have hung with the wealthy folks, but they are black and white - I've seen it.

Ironic that 'Growing Up Gotti', a reality show on some network is celebrated, isn't it? Personally, I don't care for the young punks, but there are millions who watch the show religiously and they're not expecting someone to get killed either. They're entertaining as NY Goobahs, not the spawn of a racketeering murderer.
Other than the rum running, what did Sir Roland do that was factually illegal? The laws as written in those days should be condemned as horrific, but to the best of my knowledge it was a typical English colony law system, not the sole brainchild of Symonette. Was the rum running against Bahamian law, or just US law? Anyone know?
I think you're right about the ghetto kids. To the best of my knowledge Brent was raised to be a gentleman of class, his future in law designed by his parents from the day he was born. I'm fully aware that he wasn't the only rich kid, but racing and football weren't his 'thing'. Where did the 'white' get mixed into 'elitist'? Brent may have hung with the wealthy folks, but they are black and white - I've seen it.

Your right about the elitist part(I know we have them of all colors),but I used white because we were talking about him.

ha ha .. the bbman crackin me up .. say apologize ... yeah i'm sorry your a moron..:shaky:

lmao...

So when yinna say foolishness like Brent has nothing to do with Pop,I beg to differ,because every day he & Bobby are on the face of this earth they will be benefiting from their fathers deeds..[/B]

So, children who benefited from their parents being affiliated with drug monies in the 80's should apolgise too, right?