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Rory
01-09-06, - 06:57 AM
FINALLY SOMEONE WITH SENSE IN THIS COUNTRY
HE IS RIGHT ON THE MARK - THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT IS 100% PRO COMMUNIST


A lecturer at The College of The Bahamas labelled the government as being pro-communist, with a record of favouring Cuba, Venezuela and China over North America and Europe.

Dr Dexter Johnson, a law professor, who supports a Bahamian nationalist party, made the remarks Wednesday on Real Talk Live with Jeff Lloyd.

He said the government is increasingly making a calculated effort to rehabilitate Cuba and hopes that the U.S. will lift its 46 year-old trade embargo against that Spanish-speaking country.

"Our foreign policy has increasingly exhibited a pro-socialist/communist and fairly radical departure from its previous stance. We are in the socialist camp. We're in the camp of (Fidel) Castro and (Hugo) Chavez, and now (Evo) Morales," he said.

"If you look at recent votes in the United Nations, and U.S. Ambassador John Rood was kind enough to point this out, the last three votes in the U.N., The Bahamas voted for China, Cuba and Venezuela against the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada. It didn't abstain, it voted with them (the communists)."

He added that the Bahamian people were never consulted about the government "changing" its alignment towards socialist regimes and explained that this was not the way to go, as a vote against the U.S. could hurt The Bahamas in the long run.

He said it is foolish for a nation to bite the hand that feeds it, making reference to The Bahamas, which imports approximately 90 per cent of all its food from the U.S. In addition, 85 per cent of The Bahamas' tourists come from the United States.

"While your hand is in the tiger's mouth, that's not the time to tweak the tail of the tiger. You've got to be pragmatic and decide, let me get my hand out of its mouth slowly, let me get my economy up to speed," he said.

"So being pro-American at this time, I am submitting, [it] is in the interest of the development of this country, since we rely on them as our major trading partner."

Regarding the Venezuelan-sponsored PetroCaribe energy deal, the college lecturer said the country should reject it outright. PetroCaribe allows Caribbean countries, especially non-oil-producing ones, to purchase fuel at a discounted rate from Venezuela. The result of that purchase would greatly increase Venezuela's regional influence as Latin American's lone OPEC member.

With reference to the Caribbean Single Market and Economy (CSME), he said "We've also been allowing radical and semi-radical Caribbean leaders to push us to the forefront as a mouthpiece."

He was referring to the Prime Minister of St. Vincent, Ralph Gonsalves, a Marxist Leninist who reportedly toned down his socialist rhetoric in order to appeal to the St. Vincent electorate.

"I can go on and tell you about other leaders who are, basically what I call closest socialists, seeking to utilise this so-called Caribbean solidarity to rally around their hero, Fidel Castro," he charged.

"This is why the U.S. Ambassador recently commented on the fact [that] while The Bahamas was at the U.N. suggesting that we should trade with Cuba, nobody said anything to Castro about his human rights violations."

quote - n a s s a u g u a r d i a n ..

Alien
01-09-06, - 11:10 AM
I wonder how much the FNM paid this guy to spit this craziness??
LOL!!!

Man i tell ya....this election, you will see the differences in people and ideologies right now!!?
:rolleyes:

Excalibur
01-09-06, - 11:55 AM
A lecturer at The College of The Bahamas labelled the government as being pro-communist, with a record of favouring Cuba, Venezuela and China over North America and Europe.


This is amazing.
The Bahamas usually stands in the “Yes Men” category towards the U.S. ..... you mean that there is actually fortitude to say no once in a while?

Yinna trying to build autonomy a?

Honestly, I feel capitalism and socialism both have pros and cons.

will2274
01-09-06, - 12:18 PM
This is amazing.
The Bahamas usually stands in the “Yes Men” category towards the U.S. ..... you mean that there is actually fortitude to say no once in a while?
Yinna trying to build autonomy a?
Honestly, I feel capitalism and socialism both have pros and cons.

Ya know communism aint that bad, as I understand it, either errybody rich or errybody poor!
And given that our country is so small, if we were to balance out the riches, Im sure everyone will come out on top! Lol.:sarcastic

Ishaq
01-09-06, - 12:56 PM
FINALLY SOMEONE WITH SENSE IN THIS COUNTRY
HE IS RIGHT ON THE MARK - THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT IS 100% PRO COMMUNIST


This is an idiotic statement. To suggest that a government that has attracted private-foreign investments to the tune of over 5 billion dollars in their term is communist, clearly shows that you have no understanding of what communism is, or are just extremely biased in your view.

Ishaq
01-09-06, - 01:05 PM
Also, in order to perhaps understand why the Bahamas voted the way it did, it might be a good thing to actually state what those votes were on in each instance. Afterall, it could actually be where the Bahamas had a particular point of view on the issues and voted for their long-term strategic interests, this Rory (the way we vote) is NOT limited to whatever the U.S. or anyother country votes, but instead what that vote means for us, a small developing island state.

If you are suggesting that U.S. foriegn policy should automatically be transplanted as our own, then that is another matter and then implies that the Bahamas become a U.S. territory or state and renounce its indepence and soverignty.

Alien
01-09-06, - 01:19 PM
Also, in order to perhaps understand why the Bahamas voted the way it did, it might be a good thing to actually state what those votes were on in each instance. Afterall, it could actually be where the Bahamas had a particular point of view on the issues and voted for their long-term strategic interests, this Rory (the way we vote) is NOT limited to whatever the U.S. or anyother country votes, but instead what that vote means for us, a small developing island state.

Seriously...pray tell, what interest could this tiny quasi U.S. protectorate have other than appeasing its bigger brother??
heheheehehehehe...i mean, we live for their need for a vacation spot..right??
I mean, some say that we dont actualy control our policies...hehehehe
"sarcastic as humanly possible"
If you are suggesting that U.S. foriegn policy should automatically be transplanted as our own, then that is another matter and then implies that the Bahamas become a U.S. territory or state and renounce its indepence and soverignty.

If i didnt know that Communism and Socialism is the scare tactic smaller countries use to gain attention from the United States i would have been real upset!!
But....take what i said as you will!
LOL

Ishaq
01-09-06, - 01:26 PM
Seriously...pray tell, what interest could this tiny quasi U.S. protectorate have other than appeasing its bigger brother??
heheheehehehehe...i mean, we live for their need for a vacation spot..right??
I mean, some say that we dont actualy control our policies...hehehehe
"sarcastic as humanly possible"
If i didnt know that Communism and Socialism is the scare tactic smaller countries use to gain attention from the United States i would have been real upset!!
But....take what i said as you will!
LOL


The Bahamas is not a soverign state then?

Alien
01-09-06, - 01:32 PM
The Bahamas is not a soverign state then?


No i know we are...but was being sarcastic to the few of them who believe that we are not!!
I mean, some people really feel that we are manipulated at every turn by America!!

1.They dont care that much
2.We are not the main concern right now
3.In this instance communism is as dead as a doornail for "modern day" players in the global village
4.We are small potatoes when it comes to other countries like Britain, Argentina "to some extent", Saudi Arabia where they have real challenges...and Brazil, the only other country in this hemisphere with the reason and motive and possible ability to pose a threat to U.S. interests.

Nah...that Proffesor at COB is a mad man...a mad man with which motives??
That is what i want to know!!
:fly:

Rory
01-09-06, - 01:54 PM
Ya know communism aint that bad, as I understand it, either errybody rich or errybody poor!
And given that our country is so small, if we were to balance out the riches, Im sure everyone will come out on top! Lol.:sarcastic



you can have communism, i will fight to the DEATH for freedom myself ..

Rory
01-09-06, - 02:00 PM
I wonder how much the FNM paid this guy to spit this craziness??
LOL!!!
Man i tell ya....this election, you will see the differences in people and ideologies right now!!?
:rolleyes:


they're holding hands with China and Cuba. They are guilty by association.

Rory
01-09-06, - 02:16 PM
This is an idiotic statement. To suggest that a government that has attracted private-foreign investments to the tune of over 5 billion dollars in their term is communist, clearly shows that you have no understanding of what communism is, or are just extremely biased in your view.


If you cant take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. You can go ahead and start your own Pro Communism Anti Freedom Thread if you like, this is a FREE country, at least for now.

Rory
01-09-06, - 02:42 PM
This is an idiotic statement. To suggest that a government that has attracted private-foreign investments to the tune of over 5 billion dollars in their term is communist, clearly shows that you have no understanding of what communism is, or are just extremely biased in your view.


THIS is an idiotic statement.

Rory
01-09-06, - 02:45 PM
Also, in order to perhaps understand why the Bahamas voted the way it did, it might be a good thing to actually state what those votes were on in each instance. Afterall, it could actually be where the Bahamas had a particular point of view on the issues and voted for their long-term strategic interests, this Rory (the way we vote) is NOT limited to whatever the U.S. or anyother country votes, but instead what that vote means for us, a small developing island state.
If you are suggesting that U.S. foriegn policy should automatically be transplanted as our own, then that is another matter and then implies that the Bahamas become a U.S. territory or state and renounce its indepence and soverignty.


Another idiotic statement. But its your opinion. Everything on this forum, they are all opinions, nothing here are facts, but its great to be able to post freely without facing a firing squad. :escape:

Ishaq
01-09-06, - 03:26 PM
Another idiotic statement. But its your opinion. Everything on this forum, they are all opinions, nothing here are facts, but its great to be able to post freely without facing a firing squad. :escape:


No matter how idiotic I might think your statements were, I'm not suggesting you get shot for them, although they might be worthy of the same..lol

Listen Rory, all I was saying that saying that this present administration is communist is NOT logical, as the government has bent themselves over-backwards to attract foreign investments. I think that the government's attempt to attract foriegn investment is not an opinion but indeed a fact and hopefully you considered that. If you wish to hold on to the belief that Christie and his boys and girls are communists, then continue to carry that line.