dreeve
07-12-03, - 08:58 PM
When is this country going to get their head out of their butts and relalize that this is not a Christian Nation ? Most the pastors are the (I can't mention it here) that prey on the single and married women, Am I right?
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dreeve 07-12-03, - 08:58 PM When is this country going to get their head out of their butts and relalize that this is not a Christian Nation ? Most the pastors are the (I can't mention it here) that prey on the single and married women, Am I right? GodSign 08-05-03, - 09:31 AM This is a 'Christian Dior' nation! Only the finest material wealth will do, thank you! :rolleyes: but seriously....there's a big difference between a 'christian' and a 'saved christian'. We are not all saved. CG 08-24-03, - 12:12 AM Perhaps we have to define just what a Christian is. If a Christian is someone who believes in Christ then yes, we are a Christian Nation. However, if a Christian is a person who believes in Christ AND follows his teaching then no, we are not. We have thousands of the former, but few of the latter - but then again, that is getting increasingly true all over the world. bsmbahamas 11-26-04, - 02:17 PM how do they prey on these women? and we are a christian nation, just some christians are at lower levels of the faith than the others. I guess similar to the stages in buddhism. it is really easy for non-christians to pull out one thing here and there, but not to condemn christianity as a whole. the system works, just like the laws of the state - but if nobody follows them then is the sytem to blame? or the individuals that do not follow the system? :angel: Vicky 11-26-04, - 02:33 PM how do they prey on these women? and we are a christian nation, just some christians are at lower levels of the faith than the others. I guess similar to the stages in buddhism. it is really easy for non-christians to pull out one thing here and there, but not to condemn christianity as a whole. I do my best to live by the teachings of Christ the man who walked the earth. The man who called him self "Son of man". I condemn the Christanity I see around me. I think CG and a few I can count on 1 hand as Christian. The rest are hypricites. Oooppps sorry CG you are Buddhist. the system works, just like the laws of the state - but if nobody follows them then is the sytem to blame? or the individuals that do not follow the system? :angel: bsmbahamas 11-26-04, - 02:55 PM I do my best to live by the teachings of Christ the man who walked the earth. The man who called him self "Son of man". I condemn the Christanity I see around me. I think CG and a few I can count on 1 hand as Christian. The rest are hypricites. Oooppps sorry CG you are Buddhist. Jesus is not an advocate for same sex marriage, he did speak about a man and women getting a divorce. CG may very well become a christian one day, and I am reading about buddism. we are trying to improve ourselves, not change the laws. CG 11-26-04, - 03:18 PM CG may very well become a christian one day, and I am reading about buddism. Glad to hear you are reading about it. Any questions? Post here http://www.bahamasissues.com/showthread.php?t=430 P.S. Maybe you will become a Buddhist one day ;) I was born a Christian, or should I say I was baptized at a young age, Church of England and confirmed as a Lutheran. Vicky 11-26-04, - 03:25 PM Jesus is not an advocate for same sex marriage, nor did he condem ithe did speak about a man and women getting a divorce. CG may very well become a christian one day, and I am reading about buddism. we are trying to improve ourselves, not change the laws. Ok you want to go out of context I can to. Mark 7:15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. words come out of a man words that make the Hypocrites. Rizzo 11-26-04, - 03:34 PM Wow! we are already straying from the topic! Anyway, we are a Christian nation and I will explain why I say that. Now I hope everyone reads and understands what I type, because I don't want to be confused with what everyone else says when asked the same question. We are a christian nation because our laws and institutions were founded and based on the Christian faith, as our lawmakers knew it, and practiced at the time they were written. I want everyone to read that statement I wrote above slowly and understand it. I did NOT say that Bahamians are Christians! I said, the Bahamas is a Christian nation, because it's laws and institutions ( - which a nation is built on - ) were based on the Christian faith as it was practiced back then when the laws were written. For an example to my explanation, consider this. St. Augustine's College is a Catholic School. I did NOT say that SAC students are Catholics. I said that SAC is a Catholic school, because it's regulations, and institutions were based on the Catholic faith. With that being said; the Bahamas is a Christian nation. However, I will be one of many people, to say that a lot of Bahamians do not try to live Christian lives (as Christ lived). But this is not the point of the forum. Cool?...Cool....... :walk: Vicky 11-26-04, - 03:51 PM Wow! we are already straying from the topic! Anyway, we are a Christian nation and I will explain why I say that. Now I hope everyone reads and understands what I type, because I don't want to be confused with what everyone else says when asked the same question. We are a christian nation because our laws and institutions were founded and based on the Christian faith, as our lawmakers knew it, and practiced at the time they were written. I want everyone to read that statement I wrote above slowly and understand it. I did NOT say that Bahamians are Christians! I said, the Bahamas is a Christian nation, because it's laws and institutions ( - which a nation is built on - ) were based on the Christian faith as it was practiced back then when the laws were written. For an example to my explanation, consider this. St. Augustine's College is a Catholic School. I did NOT say that SAC students are Catholics. I said that SAC is a Catholic school, because it's regulations, and institutions were based on the Catholic faith. With that being said; the Bahamas is a Christian nation. However, I will be one of many people, to say that a lot of Bahamians do not try to live Christian lives (as Christ lived). But this is not the point of the forum. Cool?...Cool....... :walk: Very well siad Rizzo Our law makers also were wise enough to leave openings for change so we could adapte as we learned of the world around us. If not the world would still be flat. Rizzo 11-26-04, - 03:57 PM I agree,.....that if the nation comes to a conclusion now, that a law was incorrectly legislated years ago, it should be changed. But that takes a lot of reasoning and convincing of the nation, in order to substantiate the need for the law to be amended. Once enough people of the nation are convinced, then I'm sure the law will be amended through new legislations. That is that task at hand, and I figure that is what the homosexual community, and all other groups, that face similar struggles are trying to do. Get through to the rest of the nation that the laws need to be amended. Vicky 11-27-04, - 03:24 PM I agree,.....that if the nation comes to a conclusion now, that a law was incorrectly legislated years ago, it should be changed. But that takes a lot of reasoning and convincing of the nation, in order to substantiate the need for the law to be amended. Once enough people of the nation are convinced, then I'm sure the law will be amended through new legislations. That is that task at hand, and I figure that is what the homosexual community, and all other groups, that face similar struggles are trying to do. Get through to the rest of the nation that the laws need to be amended. Ah but some times leaders have to lead the people as well. I a leader now sees a flaw/inequality in the law the leaders must put the change in place and re-educate the people. If this were not the case we would still be killing left haneded people. That is the seperation of church and state. bsmbahamas 11-27-04, - 04:17 PM I been saying this all the while. Not only are we christian based, we are democratic. hard to be democratic and christian based. I interpret this to mean, that if the majority wants to implement something that is clearly forbidden by christianity - like making murder legal(it could happen), that the law must say no and make no changes. It is therefore democratic, but subject to the will of God. I honestly believe that if the overwhelming majority votes for something that is not inline with christian beliefs that the law will go along the majority, even if it is against God's will. after all, Satan has a way of twisting God's word to make it same Godly while accomplishing his purposes. Too bad Satan is very 'hands-on' while our creator waits till the end of the week to wash the dishes. :) bsmbahamas 11-27-04, - 04:22 PM besides, everyone is now saying that they don't believe in the bible, or our religion, sothey should not be subject to it. if you are born into a christian nation, or move into one, aren't you suppose to obey the laws? freedom of religion should not overule the policies of a christian nation. if you don't want to follow the rules of the nation then relocate, soon the haitians will be saying we beleive in voodoo and you need to change your laws for us too. parietal_03 11-27-04, - 04:23 PM We are a christian nation because our laws and institutions were founded and based on the Christian faith, as our lawmakers knew it, and practiced at the time they were written. I disagree. If that were the case then HRH's subscription would not still be on our money. The "rich young men" (some of the politicians) would sell all they have to the poor and follow him instead of perpetuating the "All for me baby!" credo. SAC is a ROMAN Catholic Educational Institution. Catholic and Roman Catholic are two entirely different things. Are all the teachers Roman Catholic? Are all the students Roman Catholic? No. Some subscribe to the line of thought that a school is so much more than it's buildings or lack thereof. As for the "as our lawmakers knew it", again I disagree. Then there would be no need for the various obelisks to be strategically placed in conjunction with "The Square" and Sacred Geometry on the northeast of New Providence opposite The Queen Victoria Statue that resembles a Tarot Card. There would be no need for "aprons" when it came to bury the "architects of our nation." They all knew exactly what they were doing, and they knew what role they wanted Christ to play in their plans. I said it before, and I'll say it again, from gray-beard to bottle-height we have been ROBBED of the tools necessary to see ourselves in verity as it pertains to our past, present and future. Are you aware that there are STILL some Bahamians who believe that the PLP and FNM are actually two different political parties? Where is this delusion coming from? |