the very suggestion of changing christian in the constitution ,should be met with great disdain, i shudder to think what the bahamas will be like another 30 yrs,from now, maybe men,married to men, and women the same. and voodoo practiced openly.
i say leave it alone.

Originally posted by ronnie
the very suggestion of changing christian in the constitution ,should be met with great disdain, i shudder to think what the bahamas will be like another 30 yrs,from now, maybe men,married to men, and women the same. and voodoo practiced openly.
i say leave it alone.
Yeah, you are right. This country is doing SO well as a "Christian Nation" Lets see, we have as many murders per capita as any large US city, we have men molesting little boys and girls, drug dealers turning our children into gang members and murderers.

Lets not forget how we treat our number one industry. You cannot walk down Bay Street or Cable Beach without being offered some "smokes", whatever they are ;-D. The Straw Market, a quaint bit of Bahamian culture, we let petty arguments burn it to the ground.

There are _MUCH_ more important and pressing problems in this country than to bicker over wether we should be a Theocracy or not.

the very suggestion of changing christian in the constitution ,should be met with great disdain, i shudder to think what the bahamas will be like another 30 yrs,from now, maybe men,married to men, and women the same. and voodoo practiced openly.
i say leave it alone.

Why? Because the christian council will not be able to exert their selfish control over the country like they have tried so many times in the past? What difference does it make if a man marries a man or a woman marries a woman? How does that undermine society when two law abiding, tax paying individuals get married?

Practice voodoo openly? Get with it buddy, that crap has been around for ages and its not going anywhere... Who is the government to curb its practice when its not even illegal to begin with.

Why dont we worry about deeper social, economic and political issues our country faces? I say take it out, this is not a theocracy, this is a supposed democracy.

Originally posted by bleh
Practice voodoo openly? Get with it buddy, that crap has been around for ages and its not going anywhere... Who is the government to curb its practice when its not even illegal to begin with.

Yeah, Voodoo is so freaking bad. Drinking animal blood, burning of herds of animals, magical chants, food raining down from the sky.

Oh wait, sorry, that is the Christian Bible.

"JESUS" Look at what u people are saying, why don't we just get rid of any belief in a higher power, get rid of justice, get rid of the police, get rid of the church, HEY GET RID OF YOUR MOTHER BECAUSE SHE BELEIVES IN GOD AND U DON'T!

How far do u want this to go ?

Show me a nation that does not have crime and I will show u a GOD fearing homosexual, its not possible.

These prople who want christianity out the constitution will replace it with what? MORE OF EVERYTHING ELSE.

DO u really think all our problems will go away if christianity is replaced?


THINK AGAIN!

(Practice voodoo openly? Get with it buddy, that crap has been around for ages and its not going anywhere... Who is the government to curb its practice when its not even illegal to begin with.)bleh



COME ON! If your child was being molested for ages by and unsuspecting relative, would u let it continue because its not going any where?


Jesus came to take your sins not your sense!


THere are senses that humans are automaticallly born with and telling the difference between right and wrong is deffinately one of them, EVEN KIDS KNOW WHEN THEY DID SOMETHING THAT IS WRONG!

The constitution represents the rights and privileges of every citizen regardless of their views or beliefs. We should not be so naive to believe that we live in an homogenized christian nation. This is a pluralistic society in which we live where our views and beliefs are represented by most of the world's major religions and also those without. Any amendments to our constitution should reflect this reality.

Constitutions should be inclusive not exclusive.

:angel: it's an enigma. no. we are not perfect. we are not all christians. and we do'nt demand that you become one. but, where else in the world, and(i have travelled a bit), do you see biblical sayings emblazoned on cars. or,church on every corner,or,the large majority of i.ts citizens know the bible fluently.or,every politician, can immediately spew political rhetoric,in one breath,and turn preacher in the next.or, from the disco on saturday night, and present in church, on sunday morning.and i mean the cheiftest of sinners.i'or, every function begins with a prayer.from a preschool school talent show,to a ball game.its all an enigma. how can we,a small chain of islands,scatterd over a 100,000, squre miles, cant feed itself,small in population yet, have the highest standard of living outside canada and america. i tell u, i'ts an enigma. every country has moral standards by which it is governed,our's just happen to be "christian". i still say leave it alone.:angel:

The constitution is a statement by the people of the Bahamas of who we are , where we are going and how we intend to get there.

When the constitution was drawn up I was not around but I believe that like all societies, there were some who agreed and some who disagreed on various points of interest, but because we believe in democracy the constitution became reality by way of vote.

Likewise let us all accept that there are christians and there are non christians. Some believe in God and others dont. All of this has to do with personal choice so lets not get too upset about those who argue for or against but rejoice that we are still a democracy and that the voice of the majority when dealing wih matters of governance is what we are taught to respect.

Once the matter is brought to the bahamian people by way of referendum let us all respect the outcome even if it does not go our way.

We have a wonderful country, let us enjoy our democracy and show the world that we respect the rights of others and allow freedom of speech.

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Originally posted by ronnie
[Bwhere else in the world, and(i have travelled a bit), do you see biblical sayings emblazoned on cars. or,church on every corner[/B]

every ghetto in the united states, not in normal crime free areas.

i lived in 4 different suburbs in New York, all were c lean, no crime, and there were the normal amount of churches for the amount of people in those towns.

Whenever you see so many churches such as in Nassau and ghettos in the US. there is a reason, there is way tooo much crime and sinful people!

This country of mine saturated with its bland christianity
From the pulpits perched on every ghetto street corner
To kings hidden behind iron gates and cement palaces
Seeking to protect their sanitized versions for their kind
People starved for something more mired in their poverty
Faithfully paying their hopeless desires to men in holy cloth
In lavish temples built on sweaty brows and tired backs
For that sweet utopian heaven in the bye and bye
They sing praises to their Chief in the blue diamond crusted sky
Hoping for blessings and favours or just a small piece of the pie
To escape their baneful existance in the here and now
Fallen on bended knees their heads they bow
But who can blame these hopeless souls seeking revelations
From their hidden spirits with holes in their retched lonely hearts
Only to be answered by the still silence of their minds
Too afraid to admit to this bland christianity that speaks
Not words which human ears comprehend except a privilege few

we should choose to not label ourselves as christian, in that it sets us apart from our jewish, hindi, rasta, muslim friends. i expect my behaviour to set my example ... not what i call myself. your actions reflect your values, so i say live and let live ... and love everyone as you love yourself. labels only divide us.

I agree with you, labels are use only to divide us. Most Muslim countries have religion strewn throughout their constitutions with devastating resullts. Human rights abuse, no freedom of worship, privacy abuses are just a few of the problems that plague these societies today. Leave christianity in the church and out of the constitution. Let us learn from other peoples mistakes and not look to repeat them. There are very compelling reasons you want church and state separated, unfortunately these reasons seem lost to those christians who advocate for inclusion.

I agree with you, labels are use only to divide us.

When I worship Jesus Christ I am already divided from the world.

2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Being divided from the world doesn't mean that I must be physically divided from the world but spiritually and mentally. My lifestyle must be an example to others.
Don’t be deceived Truthseeker! True Christians do not abuse the rights and freedoms of others because we know that God gave freedom to all of us to choose how we wish to live our lives. He is the final judge of all men. Our only duty as believers is to preach the truth as we know it through the Word of God. If you knew a bridge was out at the end of a road I was traveling wouldn’t you warn me? Well that’s all we as Christians can do.

To be labeled a Christian is an honor because it means to be a follower of Jesus Christ. No matter how the world turns we will always be labeled because of one reason:

Jesus Christ.

Delroy if all you did was preach, I would not have too much of a problem with that. My problem lies in the fact that not only do you preach but you also seek to influence those in power to enact laws against those who hold opposing beliefs. You expect and obtain certain privileges from the government which are not afforded the rest of us. These are some of the problems I have with christians. All I am looking for is equality and respect is that too much to ask?