how cold and callous of you...because it happened to you and noone listened its okay for this to happen to them and for people to get away with it? Did you and your friend go to internal affairs at the RBPF? At least you all have a record in the court system...for the longest these people had nothing now the proof is in the pictures( pun intended) even with Amnesty screaming inhumane conditions at the facilities.
This is more than about some prisoners making a conscious decision to escape...its about humanity...no matter what they did that doesnt make it right for them to be beaten and abused like that. We as a nation of people have to do better.


The point that I am making is that all of these prisoners knew what the repercussions were of the decisions they made, to stay or leave. A prison officer lost his life and some prisoners realizing the implications returned to their cells not wanting to have anything to do with this breakout. If these guys are being beaten now, I can say pretty reasonably that it is because of what they did. And with regard to them being human, I don't look at you as being human anymore when you take another man's life without justification. If I see someone beating a dog I'll be sorry, but I am not sorry for them. These dudes supposed to be so big and bad, they could kill and you and others out here crying for them, not me. You want hang them but not beat them, I say beat them till all the officers tired then hang them. Don't joke with these punks, if they believe they bad treat them as such.

The point that I am making is that all of these prisoners knew what the repercussions were of the decisions they made, to stay or leave. A prison officer lost his life and some prisoners realizing the implications returned to their cells not wanting to have anything to do with this breakout. If these guys are being beaten now, I can say pretty reasonably that it is because of what they did. And with regard to them being human, I don't look at you as being human anymore when you take another man's life without justification. If I see someone beating a dog I'll be sorry, but I am not sorry for them. These dudes supposed to be so big and bad, they could kill and you and others out here crying for them, not me. You want hang them but not beat them, I say beat them till all the officers tired then hang them. Don't joke with these punks, if they believe they bad treat them as such.

You have some extreme views. Authority figures have to maintain integrity and act within the law. Otherwise, what separates them from the criminal? What will stop them from beating you you if they suspect you off something illegal? How would you feel then?

You have some extreme views. Authority figures have to maintain integrity and act within the law. Otherwise, what separates them from the criminal? What will stop them from beating you you if they suspect you off something illegal? How would you feel then?

redhead needs to get beat again to know how it feels. and make sure next time he speaks up files a compalint and goes to internal affairs to make sure these rogue law enforcement officials are dealt with accordingly.

what if they're innocent to start with ..?

what if they're innocent to start with ..?


I'm not advocating anybody going out and beating people indiscriminately. These guys may have been innocent initially, but they were definitely involved in the breakout where a guard lost his life. These guys didn't have to do this, they had tied up the other guards, they killed the officer in cold blood. Only one killed the guard as I understand, but if the others could be sensible enough to go back into their cells these idiots should have done the same. I didn't really mean they should get beaten every day or anything but I don't feel sorry for them, I have no sympathy and if they were dead in the street I would step over them. Everyone on here crying for these dudes are the same people who days earlier were outraged by the escape and blaming The Government, now these same guys are supposed to be human, they are less than human in my eyes.

The point that I am making is that all of these prisoners knew what the repercussions were of the decisions they made, to stay or leave. A prison officer lost his life and some prisoners realizing the implications returned to their cells not wanting to have anything to do with this breakout. If these guys are being beaten now, I can say pretty reasonably that it is because of what they did. And with regard to them being human, I don't look at you as being human anymore when you take another man's life without justification. If I see someone beating a dog I'll be sorry, but I am not sorry for them. These dudes supposed to be so big and bad, they could kill and you and others out here crying for them, not me. You want hang them but not beat them, I say beat them till all the officers tired then hang them. Don't joke with these punks, if they believe they bad treat them as such.

so that makes it right?
What happenes when one of these prisoners are beat to death... then what?
What you fail to understand is that all the beating in the world will not bring back the deceased officer. all these beatings do is make the prisoners more hardened, more vicious and more spiteful because they really feel that they have nothing to lose...What if if a prison uprising happens...then what...Fox Hill is in a residential area...what happens then?

I say those guards need to be fired because that type of activity shouldnt be happening...anywhere in the free developed world these types of things dont happen, or else the govt would be sued for what they dont have yet...and it does happen...so why does it continue to happen here...is it because we dont love and respect each other. We need to cleanse ourselves with this gestapo tactics maybe Mother Pratt needs to be beat like that for yall to understnad that it een right. For the most part these people are black like me and you, their human beings that need to be treated with the same respect as any other and we have to ensue that their dignity is kept intact.

I use to get mad when Amnesty International would come around and make our country look bad...but I understand why now...if sh!t like this goes on. This make me wonder what did Officer Bowles do before or what did he know about the "inside help"

We are in a democracy and we must do better.

You need to check yourself.

i think it boils down to are local law enforcement beating up prisoners after they have been subdued, or while subduing them, such as if they resist arrest?

Everyone on here crying for these dudes are the same people who days earlier were outraged by the escape and blaming The Government, now these same guys are supposed to be human, they are less than human in my eyes.

Its isnt about them its about all Bahamians this could happen to anyone of us on here...everyone on this board knows at least someone who has been beat or harrased by police officers- what does that say about how we as a people live- how our law enforcement officials respect others and that isnt right!

like JER said, these rogue law "Authority figures have to maintain integrity and act within the law"

If we want to consider oursleves among the free developed world stuff like this cant happen. Point blank- it is wrong.

Like I said earlier, this been happening for years. Mother Pratt wasn't Minister when me and my boy were assaulted for no reason. Maybe you should suggest that that person get beaten. Every Bahamian knows this goes on and has always known, don't make this political. I am not for beating all prisoners, and I don't believe all are being beaten. These men knew what they were in for if they were recaptured before their escape and they chose to do so anyway, they chose to kill the prison officer. Last week it was a travesty what happened to a brave prison officer and this week it still is. Speculation by you about what Officer Bowles did to deserve his fate is foolishness.

And if one of those prisoners dies you should cry for him because I won't.

People have been beaten by the police for years, now that someone publishes some pictures this becomes an issue.
I and a friend were once beaten by police for nothing, not for participating in the killing of a prison officer. I don't remember who was Minister of National Security then but that person didn't see us either. The judge saw my friend in court with his eye still sqwollen shut 3 months later and dismissed the issue when we raised it. This foolishness been happening for years and everybody has always known it, now you all are outraged. Please. I heard that the other inmates who were in position to escape at the time that these inmates did decided to voluntarily return to their cells after they realized that a guard had been killed. If those who did escape had done the same they would not be getting beaten now. I asked a few co-workers yesterday if he thought 2 weeks of freedom was worth the beating that we knew Hepburn was gonna get and none of them thought it was especially when that freedom was probably worse than being behind bars.
These guys made a conscious decision and now they are paying the consequence, I don't feel sorry for them, they probably deserve worse than they are getting.

Come on don't be so insensitive and callous about brutality and abuse of anyone. What happened to your friend was wrong and what happened those prison inmates is wrong! It is as simple as that.

Did u see those photos homey? For christ sake you won't want no one to treat your dog like that let alone another human being. Come on have some humanity!

redhead got it right to an extent .. this is common practise here and has been for years and years ... i thought it might have gotten somewhat better by now though ... but if they are going to beat someone, they may as well shoot them, cause you can easily die from a punch to the head ..

Like I said earlier, this been happening for years. Mother Pratt wasn't Minister when me and my boy were assaulted for no reason. Maybe you should suggest that that person get beaten. Every Bahamian knows this goes on and has always known, don't make this political. I am not for beating all prisoners, and I don't believe all are being beaten. These men knew what they were in for if they were recaptured before their escape and they chose to do so anyway, they chose to kill the prison officer. Last week it was a travesty what happened to a brave prison officer and this week it still is. Speculation by you about what Officer Bowles did to deserve his fate is foolishness.
And if one of those prisoners dies you should cry for him because I won't.

a good beating should not be the prisoners reward for recapture...why is that accepted as the 'right" thing to do? Beating of any prisoners is wrong PERIOD we are signataries to UN agrrements on Human rights and we need to stop acting like a rogue police state i n the background all the while speaking the queen's english...what cant you see is wrong with that? Its called hypocrisy!

I use Mother Pratt as an example of an indvidual who should be beat to a pulp because of her notoriety as a patron saint and how her life is worth the same as any old prisoner...the intent was not to make this political but show that we are all one in the same and we shouldnt discriminate against who should be killed with the beating. I have a few others who I would like to see beat too...Perry Christie and Pindling (but he's already dead) and all the rogue Bahamian tiefs unmentioned are too is on my list, if you really want to know .

Speculating about Bowles fate was just human nature for me, everything is suspect in my book...but what I will say is the thought hasnt left my mind yet so Im on to something. ("Watson")

we as anation need to turn a new leaf and I will cry for anyone who is not treated with the respect and dignity as any.

Come on don't be so insensitive and callous about brutality and abuse of anyone. What happened to your friend was wrong and what happened those prison inmates is wrong! It is as simple as that.

Did u see those photos homey? For christ sake you won't want no one to treat your dog like that let alone another human being. Come on have some humanity!


All I am trying to say is that this has been happening for decades and now people are trying to politicize the issue.

Watsayu saying that he is outraged and Tafadhali trying to insinuate about reasons that Officer Bowles was killed. I remember an earlier thread when she kept on stating that someone should be fired out of respect for Officer Bowles memory yet she is smearing his memory. In that same thread I said that I feel that Rahming should ultimately be held accountable for the lapse in security when the same people were clamouring for heads to roll.

I guess the only people criminals can rely on to support their rights are their families and PLP bashers (unless The FNM are the government, then it will be FNM bashers).

All I am trying to say is that this has been happening for decades and now people are trying to politicize the issue.
Watsayu saying that he is outraged and Tafadhali trying to insinuate about reasons that Officer Bowles was killed. I remember an earlier thread when she kept on stating that someone should be fired out of respect for Officer Bowles memory yet she is smearing his memory. In that same thread I said that I feel that Rahming should ultimately be held accountable for the lapse in security when the same people were clamouring for heads to roll.
I guess the only people criminals can rely on to support their rights are their families and PLP bashers (unless The FNM are the government, then it will be FNM bashers).

:eek: you sneaky snake!
Dont you try to spin this. The reason officer Bowles was killed was because he did something or he knows something...why was he single out to "get it"? That's all I was getting at...now I am being ridiculed because of what everyone is thinking but arent saying?:gi:
I remember that thread oh so well and I was even chastised for "thinking too soon" I also agree that criminologist rahming and mrs. pratt need to be cut loose. I am no PLP or FNM need I remind you all.:sparky:

you people need to make up your mind yall just mix right up!

:eek: you sneaky snake!
Dont you try to spin this. The reason officer Bowles was killed was because he did something or he knows something...why was he single out to "get it"? That's all I was getting at...now I am being ridiculed because of what everyone is thinking but arent saying?:gi:
I remember that thread oh so well and I was even chastised for "thinking too soon" I also agree that criminologist rahming and mrs. pratt need to be cut loose. I am no PLP or FNM need I remind you all.:sparky:
you people need to make up your mind yall just mix right up!


I wasn't ridiculing you I pointed out an inconsistency in your position, which I can only assume came from political expediency. I have seen many threads on this forum and in none have I seen people calling for criminal rights, why now. I believe that everyone has rights until they kill another for no reason. Then you have no rights in my opinion. I don't suggest that they get beat but if they do I don't mind.

Regarding you not being a PLP or FNM, being an FNM is different from being anti PLP. I think that you and many others on this site are the latter rather than the former.