or at least lawyers ...
http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=7499

so the gal didnt know waz up ... so what, she didnt ask to be a juror, OUR government told her to be one. And people wonder why I wouldnt vote in this country while judges like this are "in power" ..

or at least lawyers ...
http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=7499
so the gal didnt know waz up ... so what, she didnt ask to be a juror, OUR government told her to be one. And people wonder why I wouldnt vote in this country while judges like this are "in power" ..

Yeah Rory I agree with you fully. I don't see how anyone could like jury service -- I sat a few times about 14 years ago -- it was the worst thing that ever happened to me, actually made me sick and I was so fed up I didn't even try to collect the couple dollars they pay jurors. And me too, I haven't voted in the last 2 elections and don't intend to vote anymore with the present govt setup.

And also, to see that woman juror handcuffed being led off to jail to me was horrible! And one like me who has a terrible time remembering names and faces would have been jailed also! The lady's family also said that she is pregnant and not too well. There must have been a more humane way to have dealt with this situation -- If she were my wife, they would have to jail me also!!!

Yeah Rory I agree with you fully. I don't see how anyone could like jury service -- I sat a few times about 14 years ago -- it was the worst thing that ever happened to me, actually made me sick and I was so fed up I didn't even try to collect the couple dollars they pay jurors. And me too, I haven't voted in the last 2 elections and don't intend to vote anymore with the present govt setup.
And also, to see that woman juror handcuffed being led off to jail to me was horrible! And one like me who has a terrible time remembering names and faces would have been jailed also! The lady's family also said that she is pregnant and not too well. There must have been a more humane way to have dealt with this situation -- If she were my wife, they would have to jail me also!!!


If nothing is done then people will feel that they can beat the system at any time. This was a capital case, a guilty verdict would have to be unanimous. If a single juror were to be determined to vote not guilty on a case of this magnitude then a mistrial would result. Also this incident has cost the country thousands of dollars, perhaps tens of thousands. This is a necessary step to discourage abuse of the judicial system.

If nothing is done then people will feel that they can beat the system at any time. This was a capital case, a guilty verdict would have to be unanimous. If a single juror were to be determined to vote not guilty on a case of this magnitude then a mistrial would result. Also this incident has cost the country thousands of dollars, perhaps tens of thousands. This is a necessary step to discourage abuse of the judicial system.


it wont deter it from happening again, if the person didnt know.
Not to mention all the extra money they have to spend to put her up in the HM motel ..

A fine. a night in Central, and some Community work would suffice.

it wont deter it from happening again, if the person didnt know.
Not to mention all the extra money they have to spend to put her up in the HM motel ..

A fine. a night in Central, and some Community work would suffice.


The judge gave her a chance to state her case, obviously she wasn't convinced that the lady did not know the guys were her former co-workers' brothers.

The judge gave her a chance to state her case, obviously she wasn't convinced that the lady did not know the guys were her former co-workers' brothers.
I think Ms Allen overeacted in this one.But it's understandable after the whole case was presented. PS: The part about not knowing they were brothers I intend to believe her.Which jurour actually listens to all that running on that lawyers do,plus who knows how close these brothers are? Bethell -Miller :dgi:

I think Ms Allen overeacted in this one.But it's understandable after the whole case was presented. PS: The part about not knowing they were brothers I intend to believe her.Which jurour actually listens to all that running on that lawyers do,plus who knows how close these brothers are? Bethell -Miller :dgi:


That may be, I sat on a case in her court before. I think that an example was made. The case that I sat on was actually dismissed because the prosecution did not prove their case, the defense did not have to present a single witness. Personally I had pretty much made up my mind, the defense would have had to be very convincing to change my mind.

If nothing is done then people will feel that they can beat the system at any time. This was a capital case, a guilty verdict would have to be unanimous. If a single juror were to be determined to vote not guilty on a case of this magnitude then a mistrial would result. Also this incident has cost the country thousands of dollars, perhaps tens of thousands. This is a necessary step to discourage abuse of the judicial system.

Seems that you are not understanding what I am trying to say -- like am talking oranges and you are talking apples, or vice versa.

I just somehow get the feeling that this woman was completely innocent (But of course I could be dead wrong, not having watched the case or even followed it up, etc).

Just suppose she were really innocent of any wrong doing, how do you think she would feel going to jail while being innocent!?

Ps. Are you saying that in a murder trial a guilty verdict would have to be unanimous for the defendant to be sentenced to be hanged? Yes I agree with that. But suppose 1 or 2 jurors vote not guilty, you are saying that would cause the case to result in a mistrial? I thought it would be possible for it to be manslaughter (?), just asking.

it wont deter it from happening again, if the person didnt know.
Not to mention all the extra money they have to spend to put her up in the HM motel ..

A fine. a night in Central, and some Community work would suffice.

Rory, I agree with you. One deterrence I think this will have it to deter persons from wanting to do jury service.

Here it is I am doing my duty as a loyal, patriotic Bahamian, Yeah man, fulfilling my civic responsibility to my beloved country by serving on the jury, make an innocent mistake and BAM! Shovelled into a truck and carted off to prison! A common criminal! Boy I tell Ya!

Next time if they pick me to serve on a murder trial, I ga tell em, even if its a lie, that I don't believe in capital punishment! [Or would my imprisonment preclude me from serving again?]

I wonder if the judge didnt allow "rabid" political interferance to cloud her better judgment? Does she not think that maybe if indeed the two accused did commit the murder (i think it was a hit) the real perpertrators are still out there roaming free (people know who they are) and they need to be brought to justice? you know I feel for this woman she doesnt deserve this...she's pregnant and its not fair to her that people in this society have to pay when folks didnt instill in their children that getting caught up in that drug trade foolishness is wrong and it only leads to death or jail where someone is poking you in your butt. ... yall notice that Mr. Miller's (the MP's) reputation wasnt even tarnished by his son's lifestyle? Where is the guilty by association flack kofi annan got with his son kojo's oil-for-food scandal. There is too much double standards in this country its sickening...when will we ever get the real truth come from the people who are suppose to be telling it...this woman is the real victim an upstanding citizen doing her duty to the nation and she is penalised for it...its not her fault that we are a small society and some people know some people without knowing that they know some people. its more like one degrees of seperation here.

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...plus who knows how close these brothers are? Bethell -Miller :dgi:

yes they may not have the same mommy and daddy and if the parents are a little older their mommy could have 10 chirren and the daddy 15 and who knows how many other outside children he dont know 'bout?

is this my "1908" post? ;) how pretty

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yes they may not have the same mommy and daddy and if the parents are a little older their mommy could have 10 chirren and the daddy 15 and who knows how many other outside children he dont know 'bout?
is this my "1908" post? ;) how pretty

I really believe this woman didn't know that this dude was homeboy brother.

Sure she worked with him, but hardly spoke, and im sure when they did speak it wasn't about who ya family is!

And for goodness sake they had different last names! Who the hell coulda made that connection!:eek:

I work with some fellas for 5+ years and I still don't know who dey brothers and sisters are!:shhh:

They said the persons name was mentioned in the trial, but what makes them think she was listening, I mean she was "made" to be there, so she may have been tired or just not paying attention, and that is not against the law. Plus who said she knew his first name.

She should sue the Judge when she gets out .. course we know that will never happen here .. she should also sue the Person from the Windam or if they wont release that persons name, sue the Hotel itself. Messed up this womans life because of a bunch of dummies and their "views", not facts.

They said the persons name was mentioned in the trial, but what makes them think she was listening, I mean she was "made" to be there, so she may have been tired or just not paying attention, and that is not against the law. Plus who said she knew his first name.
She should sue the Judge when she gets out .. course we know that will never happen here .. she should also sue the Person from the Windam or if they wont release that persons name, sue the Hotel itself. Messed up this womans life because of a bunch of dummies and their "views", not facts.

but what if something happens if the child in her womb is "stressed" while this woman is imprisoned...then what? who will be at fault here? who will the blame go to...the over zealous judge, the prosecution team (AG's office) or the "rabid" political interferance?

just a bunch of what ifs but something vould happen to her in fox hell they killing authority there what you think about her?

but what if something happens if the child in her womb is "stressed" while this woman is imprisoned...then what? who will be at fault here? who will the blame go to...the over zealous judge, the prosecution team (AG's office) or the "rabid" political interferance?
just a bunch of what ifs but something vould happen to her in fox hell they killing authority there what you think about her?


The person that put her there i guess .. either way I see it as wrong .. fox hill is not a normal prison if there is any .. it is like you said, a hell hole. I didnt even know she was pregnant, if thats the case a fine and community service "after" she has had the baby and recovers ... its not like she killed or robbed anyone, the prison is overcrowded as it is. Looks like everything is "send them to fox hill and teach them a lesson", which doesnt work, it just makes them more angry at society and especially law enforcement and the legal system.

Especially if they are innocent, I know I wouldnt "let it rest" after I got out, someone would pay $$ or at least face public discrace here, and if not here, the rest of the world would certainly know, whether they care or not.