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Tafadhali
02-22-06, - 07:14 PM
replace African american boy with black Bahamian boy and tell me of you think there's a connection. I'm of the firm opinion that the remnants of slavery, lack of education factors, exposure to technology, poverty, and matriarch single parent homes have alot to do with why there is a link.

What do you guys think?

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*AFRICAN-AMERICAN BOYS: THE CRIES OF A CRISIS by E. BERNARD FRANKLIN



* Midwest Voices



If there is not major intervention in the next 25 years, 75 percent of urban young men will either be hopelessly hooked on drugs or alcohol, in prison or dead.





The figures are clear. Reports by the American Council on Education, the Education Trust and the Schott Foundation show that African-American boys spend more time in special education, spend less time in advanced placement or college prep courses and receive more disciplinary suspensions and expulsions than any other group in U.S. schools today.



The Schott Foundation started the Black Boys Initiative in 2003, says President Rosa Smith, because "black boys represented the worst-case scenario for a group coming out of public education."



The foundation's 2004 state-by-state report on black male students found that, among other negative indicators, more black males receive a GED in prison than graduate from college.



In regard to last year's local violent crime, Star columnist Steve Penn recently reported that a disproportionate number of the victims (86) and suspects (54) in the 127 homicides were African-American. And most of them were African-American males.



Why might the violent crime rate be so high among African-American youths? They make up a brotherhood of the broken, bruised and defeated. Their girls have their mothers, aunts, teachers, school administrators and social workers to daily advocate for them. These boys have few advocates who understand their pain and speak up for them. Their issues don't reach the mainstream until white boys in the suburbs reach a similar set of circumstances.



What makes the plight of African-American boys so disturbing is that it appears as if few are concerned. The traditional social development institutions are failing them. Their family of origin, their schools, their churches, the youth-serving social service agencies, social workers - all are failing to reach this group of hardened boys.



Spencer Holland of Morgan State University cites the problem this way:

Young African-American inner-city boys, coming from predominantly female-headed households with few, if any, adult male role models who value academic achievement, may come early to view school as no place for a boy. Performance-based instructional strategies in the primary grades that require children to copy and imitate behaviors demonstrated by primarily female teachers may lead boys to believe that school work and activities are "what girls do." Thus, they begin to reject learning activities for those behaviors that appear masculine.



In many schools, African-American boys are removed from traditional education by disciplinary interventions or by being tracked into special education. Vernon C. Polite, professor at Bowie State University and co-editor of the book /African American Males in School // and Society/, in an independent study found that suspensions may range from two to 22 days, leaving large numbers of African-American boys to wander the streets daily where they begin engaging in crime.





Of African-American boys who enter special education, only 10 percent return to the mainstream classroom and stay there, and only 27 percent graduate.



In addition to data on the challenges African-American boys face in public schools, researchers point to less quantifiable factors.

Professor Melissa Roderick of the University of Chicago notes that black boys often do not feel cared for in their school or their communities. Polite also noted that the perceived lack of caring was the most devastating factor for African-American boys.





If African-American boys are not in school, they are not likely to be directed to youth-serving agencies like Boys and Girls Clubs, Big Brothers/Big Sisters, Boy Scouts or YouthFriends, and these agencies are not really set up to support these tough boys. And many inner city organizations and churches don't have the budgets or the full-time staff to devote to their deep needs.



Nell Noddings, a professor at Stanford University, a former K-12 math teacher and the author of several books on caring, observes that "young black men and boys growing up without male role models and in conditions of poverty probably do need, more than anyone else, that assurance that somebody really cares. Many studies show the single most important thing in turning lives around is the ongoing presence of a caring adult."



The downward trend of Kansas City's African-American boys in school and society will not end unless educators, clergy, and community and business leaders make African-American boys a high priority. If you don't believe me, wait 25 years from now and see what the results are.



Or, do you really care?

biggy
02-22-06, - 07:29 PM
The common factor,no matter what the race seems to be the lack of not only a father figure but a good ,honest and loving man for a boy to respect.A young man can only learn by example.Boys are agressive by nature,that agression must have a positive result.I am from a broken,violent home and I totally owe my sucess to my grandfather.He was my role model,my hero and my father.He has been gone 31 years now and I miss him every day.I thank God I had him.I wish every boy could.

Tafadhali
02-22-06, - 07:38 PM
The common factor,no matter what the race seems to be the lack of not only a father figure but a good ,honest and loving man for a boy to respect.A young man can only learn by example.Boys are agressive by nature,that agression must have a positive result.I am from a broken,violent home and I totally owe my sucess to my grandfather.He was my role model,my hero and my father.He has been gone 31 years now and I miss him every day.I thank God I had him.I wish every boy could.

yes i agree my roomate from college says the same thing...his gramps just passed in october...a father doesnt neccessairly have to be there just soemone who cares and is there...

CG
02-22-06, - 07:45 PM
I think Nell Noddings, put it best. "young black men and boys growing up without male role models and in conditions of poverty probably do need, more than anyone else, that assurance that somebody really cares. Many studies show the single most important thing in turning lives around is the ongoing presence of a caring adult."

It is not Black youth that is failing, it is their fathers that are failing them. We should ask ourselves why Grandfathers, who were also poor, who live under worse discrimination, and were closer to slavery that their sons, were able to be role models. So what happened????

Tafadhali
02-22-06, - 07:51 PM
this is kind of bizarre white men telling black folks how to raise their children...people never change...carry along smartly (cg you had to know this was coming)

Excalibur
02-22-06, - 07:59 PM
It is not Black youth that is failing, it is their fathers that are failing them.

So true.


this is kind of bizarre white men telling black folks how to raise their children...people never change...carry along smartly (cg you had to know this was coming)

It appears that help is needed and its not coming from blacks!
Sorry to burse bubbles but its not getting better.

For the life of me I can’t see why taking advice from another race is objectionable.
I mean we take every other thing.

Tafadhali
02-22-06, - 08:05 PM
So true.
It appears that help is needed and its not coming from blacks!
Sorry to burse bubbles but its not getting better.
For the life of me I can’t see why taking advice from another race is objectionable. I mean we take every other thing.

black people are the only people that allow others to comment on our community...i dont like it and i never will...imagine black folks commenting on a white or hispanic community...i love my bahamian brother cg with all my heart...he knows where i am coming from...

Rory
02-22-06, - 08:07 PM
this is kind of bizarre white men telling black folks how to raise their children...people never change...carry along smartly (cg you had to know this was coming)


so white people shouldnt help someone cause their black is what you are saying . ..... :dgi:

biggy
02-22-06, - 08:09 PM
I realise the topic is racial by nature but boys are boys no matter.I see the same problem in every race and culture.Fathers need to take responsibility for their children and their sons in particular.Boys love their mum no matter what but it is up to their dad to teach them to respect women.This is why it is so difficult for a woman teacher to teach young boys from broken homes.No matter how good a teacher is,she is ineffective if the student doesn't respect her.I do not recall the publication but some years ago there was a study done about teachers trying to get through to inner city kids.The conclusion:We need more male black teachers,because young black inner city boys do not respect us."women teachers" Not my opinion but it seems to have some merit.

Tafadhali
02-22-06, - 08:09 PM
so white people shouldnt help someone cause their black is what you are saying . ..... :dgi:

no white fols sjould mind their business

Rory
02-22-06, - 08:13 PM
no white fols sjould mind their business

you just confirmed my question with a positive.

Taffy mussee a potcake, cause she sees everything in black and white .. :hammer:

biggy
02-22-06, - 08:15 PM
no white fols sjould mind their business

You need to get with it.We are all in this together and ain't none of that can stand alone.Sorry I didn't mind my own business,now I'll leave you to your post.

Excalibur
02-22-06, - 08:18 PM
All a we is one!

Ignorance is a bastard but a fool is worse.

Jer
02-22-06, - 08:36 PM
no white fols sjould mind their business

If I called black people "black fols" you would label me a racist. Why dont you take some of your own medicine and stop being so divisive?

CG
02-22-06, - 08:36 PM
this is kind of bizarre white men telling black folks how to raise their children...people never change...carry along smartly (cg you had to know this was coming)
Actually, if you look closely I quoted something you quoted by Nell Noddings,

It was Biggy that said his Grandfather was a role model to him - I have heard others say that. So if you look closely you will see that I offered no advice. In fact I ended with a question! By the way, the bit about "It is not Black youth that is failing, it is their fathers that are failing them. etc, etc" is not original to me. I listen to Jesse Jackson's radio show each week. People on his show have said similar things - Black people!

black people are the only people that allow others to comment on our community...i dont like it and i never will...imagine black folks commenting on a white or hispanic community...
But Black folk do it all the time!

i love my bahamian brother cg with all my heart...he knows where i am coming from...
Yes, I do. (and I love you too!):)