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Tafadhali
03-21-06, - 07:43 AM
Hmmmm. Could that be because Bahamians are better educated and have better diction? Get serious,why compare yourselves with real 3rd world countries?

is that fair to say...shouldnt we ask a linguist or audiologist about this...

biggy
03-21-06, - 07:46 AM
is that fair to say...shouldnt we ask a linguist or audiologist about this...
Say nothing.Two questions - not statements.

Tafadhali
03-21-06, - 07:50 AM
Say nothing.Two questions - not statements.

lmao :rolleyes:

Jer
03-21-06, - 08:45 AM
"weaker" "weak" can yinna use a better word please;) ...there's nothing wek about our people (Only the PLP)

How about less pronounced......

Tafadhali
03-21-06, - 08:47 AM
How about less pronounced......

"better"

Jer
03-21-06, - 08:49 AM
Hmmmm. Could that be because Bahamians are better educated and have better diction? Get serious,why compare yourselves with real 3rd world countries?

Better diction? You ever hear bahamians say dis is mines, and tree for the word 3, or I's Bahamian or Ve is fish Wendors? This is just bad english lol

Tafadhali
03-21-06, - 09:02 AM
Better diction? You ever hear bahamians say dis is mines, and tree for the word 3, or I's Bahamian or Ve is fish Wendors? This is just bad english lol

I hope your speaking for yourself.that is dialect you respect that.

biggy
03-21-06, - 09:07 AM
Better diction? You ever hear bahamians say dis is mines, and tree for the word 3, or I's Bahamian or Ve is fish Wendors? This is just bad english lol
Yeah,I hear it every day,my wife is Bahamian but it is still much clearer to me than Jamacian.Also Bahamians use multi syllable words.I am curious of use of V's and W's though,never been able to figure that one out.Was there an Arian influence here at one time?

Tafadhali
03-21-06, - 09:17 AM
Yeah,I hear it every day,my wife is Bahamian but it is still much clearer to me than Jamacian.Also Bahamians use multi syllable words.I am curious of use of V's and W's though,never been able to figure that one out.Was there an Arian influence here at one time?

Irish maybe, but you will find some German last names in these islands (my paternal lineage) so you may be onto something...

Seagod
03-21-06, - 09:30 AM
Please allow me to put in my two cents...

This was written by the curator of "Funky Nassau - Recovering an Identity" an exhibition of works by nine Bahamian artists that opened in Wiesbaden Germany last weekend. I feel that most artists in particular the newer ones in this country feel the same way about the Bahamas as that Jamican girl does...but being an artist myself I shun from such highminded talk because artist don't have a monopoly on their given culture although we may eat sleep and drink it , our inspiriation is derived from something so there must be a culture somewhere...this is an important subject that the whole community must be involved in.

Curator: Amanda Coulson

The image most foreigners have of The Bahamas is that of an island paradise. Its history, though, is not so tranquil, marred by piracy, slavery, and occupation; of different nations claiming its lands, of a struggle for eventual independence to assert an identity of its own.

The Bahamas today still presents many dichotomies. The capital city on New Providence Island is the seat of a nation independent since 1973, while its name—Nassau—is a reminder that it was subjugated to the British (named after King William III of Orange-Nassau). The historical sites and customs are still very bound to its former status as a British colony, while its proximity and dependence on the United States have led to an increasing cultural Americanization. While poverty is still a problem, a booming middle class has allowed for a new generation to go to college abroad and to take a more active interest in their cultural identity.

In the arts, the simplistic characterization of the islands as a haven of peace and tranquillity has always been accentuated. Historical ex-patriot artists, such as Winslow Homer and Albert Bierstadt, immortalized the sandy landscapes; later local artists, out of financial necessity, followed suit, making fine decorative landscapes or genre paintings for the tourists. Such stereotyped images have lead to the marginalization of Bahamian artists on an international platform.

nationbuilder
03-21-06, - 10:00 AM
True. Caricom needs the Bahamas for it's financial stability.
The first thing that comes to mind in an American city when Jamacians are mentioned is violence,then drugs.

Actually, the Bahamas only contributes 2 percent of CARICOM's budget annually. "Poor" states like Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago foot the majority of CARICOM's bill. So this "they need the Bahamas to survive" thing is a myth dollars and cents wise.

biggy
03-21-06, - 10:06 AM
Actually, the Bahamas only contributes 2 percent of CARICOM's budget annually. "Poor" states like Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago foot the majority of CARICOM's bill. So this "they need the Bahamas to survive" thing is a myth dollars and cents wise.
Why subscribe to CARICOM then,what are the benefits? Does this have anything to do with Venezuela and oil?I read in the Guardian not long ago,BEC and the govt,owe Venezuela an incredible amont of money for diesel fuel.

garnelleo
03-21-06, - 10:07 AM
tell all the haterz to buy a dictionary and look up culture. Cuz if they do its impossible to have no culture. Many things like rake and scrape, Junkanoo, customs and beliefs, even to the way some worship (Baptists) have African roots.

We arent even in the Caribean Sea anyway.

And why are they so obessed with the Bahamas. Bahamians dont have this and that and blah blah boo hoo. Like I sit up at night thinking about Jamaica's culture.

Yahooey
03-21-06, - 10:17 AM
I think that it should be a source of concern to all of us that other Caribeans know so little about us and our culture. I have watched that Tempo station a few times and have yet to hear a single Bahamian group or artist even mentioned let alone perform, I don't watch the s#!t anymore. I think that a part of the probllem is that most Caribbeans are far more bombastic than the average Bahamian and so are more easily noticed and therefore become recognized. Another reason could be that Bahamians speak a weaker dialect than other West Indians, and when we travel abroad we adopt the speech characteristics of the locations we travel to, so we don't stand out.
We need to stand up more and refuse to let ourselves be ignored. We should listen to and appreciate Bahamian music more. If a station doesn't see the benefit of playing Bahamian music then we should not watch it. Bahamians need to stand up and have some backbone.



You see that too hey! Not even Baha Men have been on Tempo yet and they have videos. But Tempo is supposed to come to Freeport for a concert.
But no caribbean culture can even come close to junkanoo...not even carnival.

Growing
03-21-06, - 10:20 AM
Actually, the Bahamas only contributes 2 percent of CARICOM's budget annually. "Poor" states like Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago foot the majority of CARICOM's bill. So this "they need the Bahamas to survive" thing is a myth dollars and cents wise.


thank you very much...

also... some ppl have made commentz about them being jealous and hating on us, economicz blah blah blah... this person was mostly concerned about individual bahamianz not knowing their own history... and quite honestly it's something that concernz me as well... how many school children can tell you the story of the person their school is named after?? or why certain roadz have their namez and the storiez there?? how many can give you a good discussion about slavery in the bahamas and other thingz of the like?

i certainly don't agree with this woman that the bahamas has no culture and no history... but i understand where she was coming from...

and by the way taf... i surely did dig into her, and by the end of it all, she wondered why it is that bahamianz never showed that part of themselvez and had that chameleon quality of character...