Hubert Ingraham. Played out!

[de redhead]

PUHLEEZE!!!! You sound like a disgruntled person. Perhaps a political WANNA BEE who is maybe a little jealous of the mighty HAI. One thing stands out in your message, your mind is really quite SICK as you say. You must purge yourself and join the great FNM in freeing our Bahamian people from these rapists, homosexuals and liars that are supposedly governing but instead ruining our nation. We must boot them out!
Use that same anger you have in you at the polls next year and make the right choice.....after all.....THE CHOICE IS CLEAR.
-Danielle McDonald


When I am angry everyone around me knows it. If you believe that Hubert Ingraham is the right choice you vote for him. I know what my choice will be.

[Alien]

You want me to get rid of them. How and why would I do that.


When you go to the PLP meetings, say it loud and give an alternative.
Trust me, I am a fly on the wall at many a meeting FNM and PLP and CDR, even been around Stuart from the BDM.
So, I can “kind of” give you a feel for who is liked, and who can be dissed if we press hard enough.
Wisdom, can be removed if we only as a group get serious about it and tell the PLP that look...we don’t like him, you don’t like him and the Bahamian people are sick of him.
EITHER HIM OR US...knowing how worthless he is to the party, the decision should be easy. Understanding the thoughts that people have of him, he my friend is begging to be made an example of. In fact, they didn’t even want him to run in the first place, the PLP wanted his wife!:gi:
TALK DAT!
:eek:

[de redhead]

When you go to the PLP meetings, say it loud and give an alternative.
Trust me, I am a fly on the wall at many a meeting FNM and PLP and CDR, even been around Stuart from the BDM.
So, I can “kind of” give you a feel for who is liked, and who can be dissed if we press hard enough.
Wisdom, can be removed if we only as a group get serious about it and tell the PLP that look...we don’t like him, you don’t like him and the Bahamian people are sick of him.
EITHER HIM OR US...knowing how worthless he is to the party, the decision should be easy. Understanding the thoughts that people have of him, he my friend is begging to be made an example of. In fact, they didn’t even want him to run in the first place, the PLP wanted his wife!:gi:
TALK DAT!
:eek:


I actually know both he and his wife and personally think they are great people. I am not aware of what you are talking about though

[Rory]

I guess everyone forgets that the current PLP were voted in by Drug Dealers paying off the ghetto folks and promises to everyone else that they never intended to keep ..??

[Alien]

I actually know both he and his wife and personally think they are great people. I am not aware of what you are talking about though

Maybe you should know of the other people within the party who happen to think he aint worth a flying fig!
LOL.
:)
Wisdom a good man??
Are you serious???
:jawdroop:
You sound just as bad as the FNM zealots!!
Call a spade a spade..dont be like them!
That man is a ghad dammned *ss!
:realmad:
Bleachers,bogus trips, ineffectiveness along with being a total waste of a Ministry on him!
Junkanoo"which Christie had to take from him"...the man stopped the Father Marcian Perters tournament for crying out loud!
The Bahamas games has been on the back burner for God knows how long....
:tdown:
On top of all of that...he has a chance to feck up again with this stadium the Chinese has given us money for to build!
You may like him..and he may be a good drinking buddy, but he is not "if I were a PLP official", gonna mess this up for me!
I am sorry...but....:tdown:

[pharoah]

Please what people say on this site is light compared to the tongue beating the PLP is get in the main stream. You live in Nassau??? Bahamains tired of the bananas running this country. Read the newspapers, LISTEN to the people, PLP is PLAYED OUT!!!

Only a few racist and die hard PLP'S don't sense the impending slaughter. It is because they have eyes but won't see, ears but won't hear, but by golly in a short while they shall feel. One can almost taste the blood! Mine you don't get me wrong I am not saying that the FNM will win but it ain't look good for Christie and his merry men none!

[Alien]

Only a few racist and die hard PLP'S don't sense the impending slaughter. It is because they have eyes but won't see, ears but won't hear, but by golly in a short while they shall feel. One can almost taste the blood! Mine you don't get me wrong I am not saying that the FNM will win but it ain't look good for Christie and his merry men none!


And it doesnt have to be that way for the PLP ya know!?
Alls they have to do is
1. Get rid of Wisdom and Stubbs at least.

2. Advertise the Health care plan "not scheme" in a way that supports Bahamians totally first and foremost.

3. At least let BARMAR start by end of this year

4. Advertise the brilliant work done by Pual Adderley and Co, concerning the amendments to the constitution.

5. Re-work the public service and translate it to a language that Bahamian people can relate to as an effective measure in fixing the service.
Even though the Public Sevrice requires long term strategy that will not be seen right away; and will be taken credit for by someone else ....at least tell us it is a long term plan to kick in later on.
We can appreciate something Mitchell..just tell us something!
:realmad:

[Tafadhali]

And it doesnt have to be that way for the PLP ya know!?
Alls they have to do is
1. Get rid of Wisdom and Stubbs at least.
2. Advertise the Health care plan "not scheme" in a way that supports Bahamians totally first and foremost.
3. At least let BARMAR start by end of this year
4. Advertise the brilliant work done by Pual Adderley and Co, concerning the amendments to the constitution.
5. Re-work the public service and translate it to a language that Bahamian people can relate to as an effective measure in fixing the service.
Even though the Public Sevrice requires long term strategy that will not be seen right away; and will be taken credit for by someone else ....at least tell us it is a long term plan to kick in later on.
We can appreciate something Mitchell..just tell us something!
:realmad:

1.thise two arent the only ones that have to go
2healthcare plan is DOA b/c its too expensive
3BAHAMAR needs to go back to the drawing board...40 million got Cable Beach was a royal sell out they need to rework the deal...death to the hotel corporation "dealmakers" for their ignorance
4the constitution commission took three years too long to report their finding that came up short (and their still not finished)
5yes but so close to election laying off people from their jobs...you cant be serious...what they need is a plan of action...what I find is that their is a disconnect with public service workers and union heads in this country... for the most part those folks feel like govt is a bottomless moneypit...you can take and take and take without worrying about how it is funded...without worrying that it is bankrupting the govt (and the Bahamian people- ourselves!)that is a serious problem...I would reccommend first that they do a financial audit...see where they can cut cost, see if their are any phantom civil servants, institute a drop program like the state of florida, encourage some people to leave govt and go to school with the aid of low interest or )% interest scholarship "loans", encourage some to go into business for themselves and help them fund their reality odf being entreprenuers (with the aid of that venture capitol fund, rolling out the red carpet as they do with foreign entities, concessions, etc.)

[Alien]

1.thise two arent the only ones that have to go
Totally your opinion!


2healthcare plan is DOA b/c its too expensive
They have failed in presenting it properly.
The health care plan got scrutiny because it pandered to illegals.


3BAHAMAR needs to go back to the drawing board...40 million got Cable Beach was a royal sell out they need to rework the deal...death to the hotel corporation "dealmakers" for their ignorance
Leased land...LEASED LAND!
Furthermore, what did you have to do with the land BARMAR got?
Foreign investment is needed for this country to work.


4the constitution commission took three years too long to report their finding that came up short (and their still not finished)
I have the official finished document lady...right in my hand!
Would like if I post snipits from it to you?
:D


5yes but so close to election laying off people from their jobs...you cant be serious...what they need is a plan of action...what I find is that their is a disconnect with public service workers and union heads in this country... for the most part those folks feel like govt is a bottomless moneypit...you can take and take and take without worrying about how it is funded...without worrying that it is bankrupting the govt (and the Bahamian people- ourselves!)that is a serious problem...I would reccommend first that they do a financial audit...see where they can cut cost, see if their are any phantom civil servants, institute a drop program like the state of florida, encourage some people to leave govt and go to school with the aid of low interest or )% interest scholarship "loans", encourage some to go into business for themselves and help them fund their reality odf being entreprenuers (with the aid of that venture capitol fund, rolling out the red carpet as they do with foreign entities, concessions, etc.)


This is not the great FNM purge post 92 of excess civil servants.
The public service needs to be restructured to be made more effcient.
Tech brought up to par, and top management training to be brought on through experience and not out of neccesity.
We do not need to purge the civil service, and if that is your only idea of re-working the civil service, I must say young lady it will cripple this country!
:uh:

[de redhead]

I guess everyone forgets that the current PLP were voted in by Drug Dealers paying off the ghetto folks and promises to everyone else that they never intended to keep ..??


I guess that you are forgetting that Witney Bastian campaigned for and sought The PLP nomination for South Andros but was denied that nomination because of allegations of drug activity.

[de redhead]

Maybe you should know of the other people within the party who happen to think he aint worth a flying fig!
LOL.
:)
Wisdom a good man??
Are you serious???
:jawdroop:
You sound just as bad as the FNM zealots!!
Call a spade a spade..dont be like them!
That man is a ghad dammned *ss!
:realmad:
Bleachers,bogus trips, ineffectiveness along with being a total waste of a Ministry on him!
Junkanoo"which Christie had to take from him"...the man stopped the Father Marcian Perters tournament for crying out loud!
The Bahamas games has been on the back burner for God knows how long....
:tdown:
On top of all of that...he has a chance to feck up again with this stadium the Chinese has given us money for to build!
You may like him..and he may be a good drinking buddy, but he is not "if I were a PLP official", gonna mess this up for me!
I am sorry...but....:tdown:


I don't drink with the man so he isn't a drinking buddy.
Also do you know what kind of deal he got for those bleachers?
If you knew the kind of deal he pulled off you would as anyone else who knew be thanking him on behalf of The Bahamian people.

[WinterGrace]

I don't drink with the man so he isn't a drinking buddy.
Also do you know what kind of deal he got for those bleachers?
If you knew the kind of deal he pulled off you would as anyone else who knew be thanking him on behalf of The Bahamian people.


Yes, yes thank you Mr Wisdom for employing foreigners to build bleachers which Bahamians could have done. Thank you for sending money out of the country to build those wonderful bleachers. Thank you for raising the ticket prices that year ($50-$75), it was such a good idea that many Bahamians decided to stay home and left the bleachers EMPTY.

[Tafadhali]

Totally your opinion!
They have failed in presenting it properly.
The health care plan got scrutiny because it pandered to illegals.
Leased land...LEASED LAND!
Furthermore, what did you have to do with the land BARMAR got?
Foreign investment is needed for this country to work.
I have the official finished document lady...right in my hand!
Would like if I post snipits from it to you?
:D
This is not the great FNM purge post 92 of excess civil servants.
The public service needs to be restructured to be made more effcient.
Tech brought up to par, and top management training to be brought on through experience and not out of neccesity.
We do not need to purge the civil service, and if that is your only idea of re-working the civil service, I must say young lady it will cripple this country!
:uh:

1totally my opinion based in fact!
2so why would you take anything seriously "that wasnt presented properly" presentation is everything...I saw a roach...sloppy is sloppy...
3I am a Bahamian and that land "leased" is my land (my business) just as much as it is your land or perry christie's land...those 100 year leases kep generations of Bahamians from using that land for our advantage...Goodman's Bay is gone! FDI is more than hotel building dear sir. and it sure the hell is more than concessions and land grabs and firesales and poor planning and environmental degradation and cyclical constrcution jobs and toilet cleaning...we are made for more!
4i already know what it says and doesnt say...and I know that it took too damn long to say nothing! I blame Perry Chrisitie for this...he didnt demand accountability or limp wrist monkey I despise him!
5 I didnt just say fire them! I gave suggestions as to how to do it...small us cities with double our populations have less public servants than we do...why is it the problem of the govt to provide every Bahamian with a job...it is the govt's duty to ensure a stable climate for economic development, its all about personal responsibility.the Bahamian humanity in me couldnt bare the though of seeing families starve or having folks thrown out on the top of their heads because they lost their govt jobs...but it will be a time when we come to some starve or all starve- the govt will back themselves in a corner because they failed to act!
but those folks who dont need to be in govt have to go...somebody has to go...if not we all will pay for this...like I said there is a disconnect...many Bahamians dont understand that the govt is not a limitless supply of funds...a civil servant job is as close that we'll ever get to being a welfare state ( I hope) to be honest everything you suggested about efficience and technology theyll weed themselves out.

[Tafadhali]

I guess that you are forgetting that Witney Bastian campaigned for and sought The PLP nomination for South Andros but was denied that nomination because of allegations of drug activity.

buddy (http://blackbeltbaldnaked.com/forbes_run.html?i=059600625X) would have brought honor to the PLP b/c at least we know where he is coming from! so what's worse...one "alleged" ex-dope dealer (he beat his case) or a whole party in the pocket of the dope dealers? pick your poison. we have "rabid" minsters with dope trust funds and we all now why we call the father of our nation drug king ping...come on let's be fair and honest! let the truth come out let it all come out! VERITAS!

[de redhead]

Yes, yes thank you Mr Wisdom for employing foreigners to build bleachers which Bahamians could have done. Thank you for sending money out of the country to build those wonderful bleachers. Thank you for raising the ticket prices that year ($50-$75), it was such a good idea that many Bahamians decided to stay home and left the bleachers EMPTY.


Bahamians constructed those bleachers, they also owned them. And the ticket prices rose to those levels before Minister Wisdom ever led The Ministry of Youth Sports and Culture.