STFU please. Why are you so interested in how another free adult lives their life? How does VIcky living her life her way affect you in anyway? Would you prefer to live in a society where we could demand that all people have the same sexual identities and expressions?....or do you just want to live in one where you’re free to be crude and insulting and disrespectful? What exactly are you adding to the conversation, to the board? and to Bahamian society and culture? Remember that thread where we were talking about the things that should matter: crime, politics, unemployment, etc....... go there and spend some time adding something constructive. Wasting time unnecessarily criticizing an adult whos living their lives without negatively affecting anyone is just a much of waste of time as us criticizing your mildly irritating pidgin speak. Find something constructive to do. Just because many of us have chosen silence and we don’t take the time to stand up and insult someone like you, marichal, and others have chosen to do.....doesn’t mean we agree with you. Get a hobby.
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Get a hobby? Your's is law,isn't it Councelor? Business must be thriving wit you havin all dis time to post your pro sissy views? I run a const,firm and I ein got the time to mess here much,so to you I say good luck,cuz u need it.

I gave you the verses like you asked for and now you say the bible is flawed, remember I didn't write the bible, it's like you saying God is imperfect and wrong.

Now here is the difference. Yes I see the Bible as flawed very much so. christians believe the Bible to be perfect but they get real upset when you point out imperfection in it. It is written by man rewritten by man translated by man what in it was chosen by man. To much has been removed for it to be perfect. I see the Creator as perfect and all creation as perfect. Because the Creator does not create imperfection. We just don't understand it. When something goes wrong in my life it is perfect even though I might not understand it, It is the Creators will which is perfect.

christians have believed their interpretations of the Bible to be perfect.
How many were tortured and murdered for this perfection. It went on until it was proven to them that there interpretation was flawed. The big thing is they would kill any who opposed them. So it went on for hundreds of years.
You believe your interpretation is perfect, just as the christian did when he cut a woman open so he could take her near to be born fetus and stomp it into the ground and leave the woman to die slowly. Just because she might have had a mole that was just a bit to big or maybe she was left handed.

You believe your interpretation is perfect,


I never interpretate those verses, so it wasn't me speaking to you but God Himself, you just don't recognize His voice.

I know that some people may think that me and others are wasting time with Vicky. But we are all planting seeds. Vicky might deny it but just by quoting scriptures and reading it, seeds of truth is being deposited in her/his mind. One day it will grow. Someone plants, the other waters it and God helps it to grow. It sounds cliche but it's true.

Or it could it could be me planting seeds. Seeds that question.
How is the Bible the word of a perfect all powerful Creator yet the Bible is imperfect.
Here are just a few.
A whole days difference in the trial of Jesus.
Different last words as he died on the cross.
Being called the Son of God the Creator. Yet never calling him self the Son of God the Creator.
A passage in the Bible that states clearly that Adam is the Son of God and Jesus is the Son of Joseph.
The religion says 3 wise men but the Bible does not give a number of wise men.
How is it that different denominations of christianity have very different Bibles??

Really are you suggesting I should believe as you do just because you say so. Or should I question to learn???

Wintergrace I know you mean well, but if Vicky is bent on a certain way of thinking relative to scripture then thats just how it is. Vicky wont see God's word for what it is because Vicky is bent on trying to disprove it... because deep down inside Vicky isnt as secure about his/her state as he/she claims to be.So you would like to think
See if you are secure..really secure Vicky..you dont need to keep trying to discredit what you consider to be the primary book/religion (the Bible/christianity/judaism) that condemns certain lifestyles or behaviours.
Uh may be you did not get it but the Bible in context dose not condem GLBT. In fact it honers transgender.
Nor do you have to keep trying to show people that their brand of Bible interpretation is wrong. I should keep my mouth shut when christians used their brand of Bible to make human beings less equal. What it really is that you are trying to continually convince YOURSELF that its wrong, since you were brought up in the "oppressive Christian religion" that no doubt hemmed you in and insisted that your reality was wrong. The Bible is not wrong its the interpratation that is wrong. The Bible is also incomplete.
What you are doing is what all of us do when we "evolve" ya know..we rebel against any foundation that is anti-our-evolution. That is how we move on after all where would we be if Columbus did not go against the foundation of the flat earth.
Only those who aren't certain have to keep on attacking that which they feel attacks who they believe they are. Its just like people who think they arent pretty enough who attack those they deem beautiful, or those who think they arent smart enough who throw jeers at college educated folk, or those who want more in life who either hate on or try to block those they see as doing the damn thing...HHHmm the same princeple applied if man was to fly we would have wings. Yet we fly thanks to the Wright brothers.
Man if you think you are X.Y and Z, and Christianity, Judiasim and Islam or whichever says its wrong, then fine..thats what the religions say. My point made religions, religions are not God the Creator.
Why does attacking christians/christianity or whatever seem to make you freer? Arent you already free in the knowledge that you now know who you are? Who can bind you up if you are already free? Unless ofcourse, you arent as free as you let on. I am free and that is why I will not let lies and misinterpratation but used to put any one in chains of discrimanation.
To keep up on this ridiculous "Im gonna show you Bible thumpers just how wrong you are" crusade is really tired and such a waste of time..why? Because son you havent been on this earth long enough to launch a sucessful "conversion of the minds" campaign against something you didnt pen (the books of the Bible) and something you didnt create, which is faith.Well daughter faith is an individual thing between the person and the Creator why would you think I seek to change that.
So man, if you are gonna do you then do you, and quit trying to convince people that they are wrong for thinking you are wrong, Woman let me try to understand others have the right to tell glbt they are wrong but have no right to respond. Thats funny. because if people of faith on this board dont have it all right about their beliefs according to you, certainly you cant think you have the golden key to knowledge about what they believe in.
Peace

I don't think I have the golden key of knowledge I have a key for questioning..

I never interpretate those verses, so it wasn't me speaking to you but God Himself, you just don't recognize His voice.

Well please make it clear.
In one verse it says the Messiah name will be Immanuel but it turns out to be Jesus. It is very clear something is not right wouldn't you say?? either its perfect or its not.

Get a hobby? Your's is law,isn't it Councelor? Business must be thriving wit you havin all dis time to post your pro sissy views? I run a const,firm and I ein got the time to mess here much,so to you I say good luck,cuz u need it.


Your initial post added nothing to the conversation. Your quote above (although slightly better said and somewhat wittier than most of your posts) adds nothing to the conversation. If i were to respond in a similar manner it would add nothing to the conversation. But one can never have too much luck....so i'll accept your wish that more come my way. Thanks. :tup:

Well please make it clear.
In one verse it says the Messiah name will be Immanuel but it turns out to be Jesus. It is very clear something is not right wouldn't you say?? either its perfect or its not.


The bible is perfect, if you have questions, if you want more clarity, you need to get on your knees and ask God for clarity. Because if I answer you, you would accuse me of being "a christian that uses their brand of Bible to make human beings less equal".

Can we stop this now and return to the original subject? Vicky you are beating this issue like a dead horse. We get it! You are gay and your job is to defend homosexuality no matter how nasty it is! We get it! Now can we kindly move on, please? Its boring now!:sparky:


U take the words right outta my mouth. Let's get back to dealin wit dem in High places. Sadly though the :alternative lifestyle" people would pass at nothing to start crying and defending thier foolishness. They take that old saying "it only takes a spark to get a fire going," to serious at the wrong times and in the wrong place. This started a good thread and bout 10 pages later they still looking for candidates or trying to transform minds and get dis mysterios "acceptance" that they feel they in this big struggle for.

U take the words right outta my mouth. Let's get back to dealin wit dem in High places. Sadly though the :alternative lifestyle" people would pass at nothing to start crying and defending thier foolishness. They take that old saying "it only takes a spark to get a fire going," to serious at the wrong times and in the wrong place. This started a good thread and bout 10 pages later they still looking for candidates or trying to transform minds and get dis mysterios "acceptance" that they feel they in this big struggle for.

Here is where you are mistaken this thread targeted homosexuals when it was titled. When in actual fact its not just Homosexuals In High Places that are abusing the system but str8s that are abusing the system as well.
So if you target GLBT I and every GLBT have the right to defend our selves.

Why pick on just homosexuals in high places are they the only ones wrong for abusing the system?

Bigots would pass at nothing to start crying and defending thir foolishness. They take that old saying "it only takes a spark to get a fire going," to serious at the wrong times and in the wrong place.

The bible is perfect,Then explain one how is there a day diffreance in the trial storys if you have questions, if you want more clarity, you need to get on your knees and ask God for clarity. Because if I answer you, you would accuse me of being "a christian that uses their brand of Bible to make human beings less equal".

Firstly I don't need to kneel and pray. I can pray in any position doing anything at all. My prayer is so simple its scary "Thy will be done I hope I understand it".

I am still waiting....
You will wait forever, cause we both know what I'm talking about,as do all the other scopers on this board D & L, Rizzo et al.

Then explain one how is there a day diffreance in the trial storys


I am not God, I did not write the bible. The way the bible is put together is by His Will not mine.


Firstly I don't need to kneel and pray. I can pray in any position doing anything at all. My prayer is so simple its scary "Thy will be done I hope I understand it".


The position you pray in is not the issue, I am telling you to pray to God for answers. It's good that you pray for His Will to be done but you also should pray for clarity in your life, we all should.

I am not God, I did not write the bible. The way the bible is put together is by His Will not mine.
The position you pray in is not the issue, I am telling you to pray to God for answers. It's good that you pray for His Will to be done but you also should pray for clarity in your life, we all should.

What is the point the Creator knows my life from begining to end long before the earth was created. It is the Creators will that I know what I know.

You will wait forever, cause we both know what I'm talking about,as do all the other scopers on this board D & L, Rizzo et al.

Ups to you I have no clue what you are talking about...