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Bahamas News 05-24-06, - 05:31 AM In what they said was an act intended to show that they would not stand for any abuse of the judicial system, more than 100 police officers turned out in Bank Lane yesterday, demanding that authorities reverse a decision to forward a police shooting case to the Magistrate?s court.
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pharoah 05-24-06, - 08:22 AM In what they said was an act intended to show that they would not stand for any abuse of the judicial system, more than 100 police officers turned out in Bank Lane yesterday, demanding that authorities reverse a decision to forward a police shooting case to the Magistrate?s court.
Link To Original Article (http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=8919)
The demonstration by the police is totally out of order. Tell me how in the world 100 police officers could demonstrate, when they are not allowed by law to do so. The police has been charging our sons and daughters for aeons and they had to go through due process. The police is not above the law.
The Attorney General of the Commonwealth of the Bahamas has made a decision,and that decision should be respected by the police. One wonders whether the police would have demonstrated had the Attorney General did the same to a regular citizen of the Bahamas?
It is but time that there be an accounting of police officers that have taken advantage of our young men for years. The police force is corrupt as a rotten apple! It is evident now that the police cannot police themselves. The officer charge with manslaughter, just like everybody else should go through the judicial process.
Check out this editorial :
http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=128&a=8911
Excalibur 05-24-06, - 08:33 AM The demonstration by the police is totally out of order. Tell me how in the world 100 police officers could demonstrate when they are not allowed by law to do so. The police has been charging our sons and daughters for aeons and they had to go through due process. The police is not above the law.
Were they demonstrating?
If they were that is a problem, but to stand out there, just standing, is not really demonstrating.
pharoah 05-24-06, - 08:40 AM Were they demonstrating?
If they were that is a problem, but to stand out there, just standing, is not really demonstrating.
Come on, who are you kiddin? 100 police officer gathered demanding a particular course of action and they are not demonstrating! Just their presence alone is enough. They are police officers and they ought to respect the decision of the attorney general. I repeat NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW. The officer charge has a lawyer. The police need to let his lawyer handle the rest. End of story!
Excalibur 05-24-06, - 08:50 AM Come on, who are you kiddin? 100 police officer gathered demanding a particular course of action and they are not demonstrating! Just their presence alone is enough. They are police officers and they ought to respect the decision of the attorney general. I repeat NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW. The officer charge has a lawyer. The police need to let his lawyer handle the rest. End of story!
You are right. I agree, "They are police officers and they ought to respect the decision of the attorney general" also "NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW".
Its amazing though that this was accelerated and the coroners inquest canceled. You have to wounder if this had nothing to do with the AG's constitence if this would have happened? I guess they have to keep getting walked over and be in the position to do nothing.
pharoah 05-24-06, - 09:07 AM You have to wounder if this had nothing to do with the AG's constitence if this would have happened? I guess they have to keep getting walked over and be in the position to do nothing.
You make a valid point indeed. But my argument is only with the police. However, the citizens have a right to protest and to question the motives of the Attorney General. But like i said before the officer charge will be given due process and in time all will be laid on the table. If he is innocent i think he will be absolved. I think he has a competent attorney.
de redhead 05-24-06, - 09:31 AM Let them show solidarity with their fellow officer, they are entitled to do so. The decision of The Attorney General may not make sense to all now but in time we shall see the merits or lack thereof. I am sure that the Attorney General's office has conducted some form of preliminary investigation into the circumstances surrounding this case and I would hope that she made her decisions accordingly and not based on pressure from her constituents and members of the public (including on this forum) screaming for the officer's head. I don't know what she knows but if this is a political stunt she is wrong and should stand on her conviction and her oath to put justice first and not let the noise in the market sway her decisions.
Tafadhali 05-24-06, - 10:13 AM Let them show solidarity with their fellow officer, they are entitled to do so. The decision of The Attorney General may not make sense to all now but in time we shall see the merits or lack thereof. I am sure that the Attorney General's office has conducted some form of preliminary investigation into the circumstances surrounding this case and I would hope that she made her decisions accordingly and not based on pressure from her constituents and members of the public (including on this forum) screaming for the officer's head. I don't know what she knows but if this is a political stunt she is wrong and should stand on her conviction and her oath to put justice first and not let the noise in the market sway her decisions.
The AG is an rogue snake opportunist tryingn to use this to her advantage, but at the same time she is not stupid. She knows that it would have been hell to pay if she allowed the dirty and evil practices of corruption to work its magic on this young man's memory...she knows those pinewood people meant business...or maybe b/c she has a son around this young boy's age it struck a cord with her or even she sees that The "small man" needs to see that the justice system is working for us as well. ...people good (and disorderly) children have been body slammed, slap up, and "taken for a ride" for too long without anyone saying anything or standing up for us. My intent was never to prejudice the case but you cant kill people children and try to get away with it...
dont take this as a plug, as i dont do this kind of thing, but the cops should all have cameras in the cars and be wearing body/helmet cameras ... record their every move when they are in the cop cars .. obviously wouldnt have mattered in this case as was an undercover car.. but still .. if they dont want it, then they have something to hide ..
bahamiangoddess 05-24-06, - 02:45 PM I Knew it, I knew it!! In an earlier post I posted I mentioned that it was a possibility of something like this happening. Allison Maynard was too much involved. (conflict of interest) She is the M.P in the deceased constituency but first and foremost she is the Attorney General. She went to the funeral, visited the family home a few times and still went ahead and did what was predicted. Common sense dictates that she should have stayed in the middle of the road. Like I said, the file ended up on her desk!!! Our laws states that a coroners inquest is held in the cases of suspicious, sudden deaths and deaths of person in lawful custody. Seeing that no one could get the story straight, and Mr. Bethel died suddenly, It looks to me like a case for the coroners court. Talk about SWIFT JUSTICE, maybe she moving too swift.
As for the Police "alleged" demonstration, let us not be too hasty, what constitutes a demonstration, what were they doing, as far as I remember, it is still legal to watch some proceedings of the court. How many of them were there because they had court that day, who was on vacation or off duty. Maybe the Staff Association or the Central Detective Unit was simply there to support a brother, but whatever the motive was, it worked. The proceedings were postponed. STAND DOWN!
lawabidingbahamian 05-24-06, - 03:34 PM I Knew it, I knew it!! In an earlier post I posted I mentioned that it was a possibility of something like this happening. Allison Maynard was too much involved. (conflict of interest) She is the M.P in the deceased constituency but first and foremost she is the Attorney General. She went to the funeral, visited the family home a few times and still went ahead and did what was predicted. Common sense dictates that she should have stayed in the middle of the road. Like I said, the file ended up on her desk!!! Our laws states that a coroners inquest is held in the cases of suspicious, sudden deaths and deaths of person in lawful custody. Seeing that no one could get the story straight, and Mr. Bethel died suddenly, It looks to me like a case for the coroners court. Talk about SWIFT JUSTICE, maybe she moving too swift.
As for the Police "alleged" demonstration, let us not be too hasty, what constitutes a demonstration, what were they doing, as far as I remember, it is still legal to watch some proceedings of the court. How many of them were there because they had court that day, who was on vacation or off duty. Maybe the Staff Association or the Central Detective Unit was simply there to support a brother, but whatever the motive was, it worked. The proceedings were postponed. STAND DOWN!
Thank God for sensible people like you~~~~when all some persons do is focus on the negative things about the police, for their own selfish gain:hammer: latley all we see is the police this the police that ~~never one day
you hear some one say thank you:sparky: imagine if there were no police :gi:
then people like pharoh will be free to roam the streets at night terrorizing people, in their homes and cars:sarcastic allison the AG is totally out of order
We need to show more support for our Police , after all they are our sons and daughters, and not some foreigner:sailing:
licks2 05-24-06, - 05:24 PM This case is all flicked up! :gi:
The people of PWG calling for the police head... hang-im high without a CI
(CI must happen in case of death in line of public duty: the offficer was given a gun by the state to use in cases were needed); the member of Paliment for PWG want to look good and therefore willing to bypass CI (possibly sending an innocent man to jail); police rightly so, stood for justice and fairness for their comrade (they are saying do it right...and if he wrong, he wrong) and the mother of the man gunned down in cold blood cries and mourn with nobody to demand adherance to the established process so that her dead son can have his day in court and thus, justice..for or against!
Much you say and I say...all the while another Bahamian mother becomes irrevelant in her seeking justice and fair play!
The other day I along with many Bahamians beat-up on Hubert Ingraham when he said that legal immigrants should sue our government in order to establish adherance to the rule of law! Now I am not so sure we were right and he was wrong! This blatant act of subverting the rule of law for cheap political gain is a social "stink" I am not willing to endorse...now or ever! That long-necked b!tch is a piece er work eh? I could not believe what I was hearing!
When they ger stop? The Bahamar deal, the GG shady appointment, now the AG scheming to win votes...on and on...damn! :cutie:
This brings Mr Ingraham's warning to the forefront...we must do the right thing...take the police to the CI as law demands he must and let a jury of his peers decide if he "burns" or not!
Prince Kassad 05-24-06, - 06:17 PM Here is a poem someone gave me;
HOW CAN I COPE.
This aint no joke.
I patrol the streets from time to time,
I must combat the scourge of crime.
The Bahamian people whom i protect,
I am sure will give me due respect.
If I am shot, stabbed or fall,
Improper insurance will not cover it all.
If i warn, arrest or even kill,
I will have to deal with the political will.
I am entitled to due process,
Which should never be determined by politiccal success.
So the next time I patrol,
I hope all parties concearned know their role.
I should not be concearned about which constituencey I am in,
Only if i am right or wrong I know from within.
I will always do my job with loyality, integrity and courage,
The Bahamian Police Officers are worried.
:cop:
(good job to the writer of the poem)
dawsonrawson 05-24-06, - 06:30 PM Here is a poem someone gave me;
HOW CAN I COPE.
This aint no joke.
I patrol the streets from time to time,
I must combat the scourge of crime.
The Bahamian people whom i protect,
I am sure will give me due respect.
If I am shot, stabbed or fall,
Improper insurance will not cover it all.
If i warn, arrest or even kill,
I will have to deal with the political will.
I am entitled to due process,
Which should never be determined by politiccal success.
So the next time I patrol,
I hope all parties concearned know their role.
I should not be concearned about which constituencey I am in,
Only if i am right or wrong I know from within.
I will always do my job with loyality, integrity and courage,
The Bahamian Police Officers are worried.
:cop:
(good job to the writer of the poem)
Agreed.
Well, I was out there today - in Bank Lane. Seems like the officer, Charlo was finally charged with manslaughter. Police was out there, television, newspapers, even Frankie Ferguson. I saw some other interesting people as well.. Couple lawyers, like Fane Thompson, Mike Kemp. Frankie was in heated discussion with the former RG, Thompson sister!! Seems like she interested in the case - from what I hear the wife of this officer was her secretary and still in the RG department. According to somebody I talked to the wife's father is a retired police. Go figure. Do ya think Allison foolin with this woman husband for the right reasons? The treasury cant afford another pay out - govt lets be careful- do this thing by the book, I say
chancellor 05-24-06, - 08:09 PM Don't these officers have patrols to do?
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