Tafadhali
05-30-06, - 03:46 PM
why is there a junkanoo in june? we as a people need to remember why junkanoo took place in the first place...ive already stated our culture is not for sale! do something else, but keep that sacred! :bahamas:
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View Full Version : why is there a junkanoo in june? Tafadhali 05-30-06, - 03:46 PM why is there a junkanoo in june? we as a people need to remember why junkanoo took place in the first place...ive already stated our culture is not for sale! do something else, but keep that sacred! :bahamas: Yahooey 05-30-06, - 08:38 PM why is there a junkanoo in june? we as a people need to remember why junkanoo took place in the first place...ive already stated our culture is not for sale! do something else, but keep that sacred! :bahamas: Chile hush!:taped2: CG 05-30-06, - 08:57 PM why is there a junkanoo in june? we as a people need to remember why junkanoo took place in the first place...ive already stated our culture is not for sale! do something else, but keep that sacred! :bahamas: Junkanoo in June is so the tourists have something to do on Bay St after 5.00pm. Bahamians that run stalls benefit. The tourists get entertained. Junkanoo groups make a few dollars. So what is wrong? Real Junkanoo is for us at Christmas and New Years.:) Tafadhali 05-30-06, - 09:48 PM Junkanoo in June is so the tourists have something to do on Bay St after 5.00pm. Bahamians that run stalls benefit. The tourists get entertained. Junkanoo groups make a few dollars. So what is wrong? Real Junkanoo is for us at Christmas and New Years.:) you dont understand the significance of what it meant back then and I why we celebrate it today...sadly, this was to be expected... islandgyal 05-30-06, - 09:53 PM Junkanoo in June is so the tourists have something to do on Bay St after 5.00pm. Bahamians that run stalls benefit. The tourists get entertained. Junkanoo groups make a few dollars. So what is wrong? Real Junkanoo is for us at Christmas and New Years.:) i agree with taf. junkanoo is for the period from guy fawkes day through boxing day and new years. GOOMBAY is for summertime, and mixing the brands is just downright unsophisticated, tantamount to celebrating easter in november. tacky. Teniel 05-30-06, - 10:02 PM Having Junkanoo in June, doesnt take away from the experience on Boxing day and New Years. It is simply taking Junkanoo to another level of exposure, particularly among foreigners, many of whom still incorrectly refer to it as 'Carnival'. Junkanoo needs this type of exposure,and why should tourists only have to see it in December and January? My only peeve would be if they chnaged the hours of the main parades from early in the morning to early evening. That part of the tradition is something we should not part with. Tafadhali 05-30-06, - 10:15 PM Having Junkanoo in June, doesnt take away from the experience on Boxing day and New Years. It is simply taking Junkanoo to another level of exposure, particularly among foreigners, many of whom still incorrectly refer to it as 'Carnival'. Junkanoo needs this type of exposure,and why should tourists only have to see it in December and January? My only peeve would be if they chnaged the hours of the main parades from early in the morning to early evening. That part of the tradition is something we should not part with. :gi: do you know why we celebrate junkanoo...I truly believe if you did you would be more guarded with your words...:uh: man if you could only understand the supreme irony of Junkanoo then and what the desperate ninnys over at tourism and in the PM's office want it to be now...our culture is not for sale point blank...junkanoo is sacred. who cares if they call it carnival...the people who suppose to know what it is, know what it is and Id like to think we all understand its significance...they carnival and junkanoo) were started for different reasons and we dont have all that lude and lascivious attractions as carnival in new orleans (mardi gras) and trini...we are Bahamians we have class and dignity. Junkanoo is an homage to our past and our ancestors long gone...it is Bahamian family entertainment! if the tourist them wah see junkanoo let them get here in december like erryone else...we are not a culture for sale! Jesus they already have all our beaches(that will be nationalised)...what else yinna wah give um...my generation property! (that cant be sold or bought) Teniel 05-30-06, - 10:38 PM You cant sell culture, culture is something that is embedded in its citizens. What one can do is distort culture, and that is happening with the on going invasion of Jamaican reggae, US hip hop, and Trinidadian Soca in our society. How much noise are you willing to make when such artists can get more radio play than our own local artists? The way I see it, Junkanoo in June is something that is allowing Bahamians to share that aspect of our culture with the world, with the added social benefits of job creation. The only thing that the tourist can 'take with them', is an appreciation for what true Bahamian culture is. As long as we stay true to the look and sound of Junkanoo, that even today is being distorted to a 'Carnival like' appearance and sound, then all is good in my book with Junkanoo. The history behind Junkanoo doesnt dictate that we only celebrate during the holiday season. If the slaves of that day had their choice, they would have celebrated like their ancestors alot more frequently than they were allowed. Now that the constraints of physical slavery has been broken, why should we still be limited? RockWell 05-30-06, - 10:42 PM You cant sell culture, culture is something that is embedded in its citizens. What one can do is distort culture, and that is happening with the on going invasion of Jamaican reggae, US hip hop, and Trinidadian Soca in our society. How much noise are you willing to make when such artists can get more radio play than our own local artists? The way I see it, Junkanoo in June is something that is allowing Bahamians to share that aspect of our culture with the world, with the added social benefits of job creation. The only thing that the tourist can 'take with them', is an appreciation for what true Bahamian culture is. As long as we stay true to the look and sound of Junkanoo, that even today is being distorted to a 'Carnival like' appearance and sound, then all is good in my book with Junkanoo. The history behind Junkanoo doesnt dictate that we only celebrate during the holiday season. If the slaves of that day had their choice, they would have celebrated like their ancestors alot more frequently than they were allowed. Now that the constraints of physical slavery has been broken, why should we still be limited? Two words.. Mental Slavery! Tafadhali 05-30-06, - 11:01 PM You cant sell culture, culture is something that is embedded in its citizens. What one can do is distort culture, and that is happening with the on going invasion of Jamaican reggae, US hip hop, and Trinidadian Soca in our society. How much noise are you willing to make when such artists can get more radio play than our own local artists? sweety you dont know me...I love my Bahamian music, which is also blasting in my MP3 player...im listenign to Exuma's Junkanoo as we speak! I only listen to old reggae and old soca...lord kitchener and steel pulse old! We dont live in a box, music is life...there is a Bahamian station that plays nothing but Bahamian music...if you dont like what you hearing turn off the radio! The way I see it, Junkanoo in June is something that is allowing Bahamians to share that aspect of our culture with the world, with the added social benefits of job creation. The only thing that the tourist can 'take with them', is an appreciation for what true Bahamian culture is. As long as we stay true to the look and sound of Junkanoo, that even today is being distorted to a 'Carnival like' appearance and sound, then all is good in my book with Junkanoo. The history behind Junkanoo doesnt dictate that we only celebrate during the holiday season. If the slaves of that day had their choice, they would have celebrated like their ancestors alot more frequently than they were allowed. Now that the constraints of physical slavery has been broken, why should we still be limited? if the slaves had their choice they wouldnt be slaves and their would be no junkanoo and the demographic makeup of these islands wouldbnt be what they are today...with your warped rationale, why dont we change christmas to july then...that's how you sould right about now...selling us down the tourism river...its the significance behind junkanoo and what it meant then, that's why we celebrate it now...it a party with a purpose...not a way to make money...its a celebration of our people...our connection to Africa...the struggle of the slaves and their only days to rest from makign money for the master...and you come with your prude apologist rhetoric...are you kidding me? if they want an appreciation of Bahamian culture go read a book! and if they wah see Junkanoo come in December like erryone else! There may be soem Bahamian that allow their national disgraceful selves for sale but not our Bahamian culture it is not for sale! WinterGrace 05-30-06, - 11:04 PM You cant sell culture, culture is something that is embedded in its citizens. What one can do is distort culture, and that is happening with the on going invasion of Jamaican reggae, US hip hop, and Trinidadian Soca in our society. How much noise are you willing to make when such artists can get more radio play than our own local artists? The way I see it, Junkanoo in June is something that is allowing Bahamians to share that aspect of our culture with the world, with the added social benefits of job creation. The only thing that the tourist can 'take with them', is an appreciation for what true Bahamian culture is. As long as we stay true to the look and sound of Junkanoo, that even today is being distorted to a 'Carnival like' appearance and sound, then all is good in my book with Junkanoo. The history behind Junkanoo doesnt dictate that we only celebrate during the holiday season. If the slaves of that day had their choice, they would have celebrated like their ancestors alot more frequently than they were allowed. Now that the constraints of physical slavery has been broken, why should we still be limited? Good point, just like the dog when he was a puppy could only run so far before the chain pulls him back where he "suppose" to be, now he is a dog that could roam he only goes so far...it's like we are free but we still act like slaves sometimes....makes you think Tafadhali 05-30-06, - 11:19 PM Good point, just like the dog when he was a puppy could only run so far before the chain pulls him back where he "suppose" to be, now he is a dog that could roam he only goes so far...it's like we are free but we still act like slaves sometimes....makes you think but why are you doing it...that is the issue I have...if the celebration of junkanoo was for Bahamians in june and not the visiting tourist I wouldnt have a problem with it...but it the symbolism of it being a culture on display for tourist dollars that gets me...if you want to see junkanoo anytime of the years besides december get a tape or a dvd or buy a book or go watch some footage on the internet...it is not for sale...our culture is not for sale! Teniel 05-30-06, - 11:23 PM sweety you dont know me... Your defensiveness is so predictable. I love my Bahamian music, which is also blasting in my MP3 player...im listenign to Exuma's Junkanoo as we speak! I only listen to old reggae and old soca...lord kitchener and steel pulse old! We dont live in a box, music is life...there is a Bahamian station that plays nothing but Bahamian music...if you dont like what you hearing turn off the radio! I never said that you didnt like Bahamian music. What I am questioning is your indifference to Junkanoo in June (one of the main aspects of our culture) while other cultures continue to dilute our own. Lets talk about that! if the slaves had their choice they wouldnt be slaves and their would be no junkanoo and the demographic makeup of these islands wouldbnt be what they are today...with your warped rationale, why dont we change christmas to july then... When exactly was Christ born? Not December 25th. He probably was born in a non-winter month. And if we all started celebrating Christmas in July, would it change the significance of the season, which is Christ's birth and our eminent salvation as a result? The same with Junkanoo, if we additionally celebrate it in another month, does it change the history behind it? Using Christmas in your argument was warped rationale! that's how you sould right about now...selling us down the tourism river...its the significance behind junkanoo and what it meant then, that's why we celebrate it now...it a party with a purpose...not a way to make money...its a celebration of our people...our connection to Africa...the struggle of the slaves and their only days to rest from makign money for the master...and you come with your prude apologist rhetoric...are you kidding me?? Tafadhali, we are no longer in chains, or in bondage, only our minds! Think about it! jar 05-30-06, - 11:42 PM why is there a junkanoo in june? we as a people need to remember why junkanoo took place in the first place...ive already stated our culture is not for sale! do something else, but keep that sacred! :bahamas: I understand what you are saying, but i think Tourism is trying to boost the tourist trade during the summer....and what else (and before you jump me and say there are lots of other culture things, that would take worrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk, I could go on and on) but use der old junkanoo costoms. Tafadhali 05-30-06, - 11:42 PM Your defensiveness is so predictable. dont be so sure ;) I never said that you didnt like Bahamian music. What I am questioning is your indifference to Junkanoo in June (one of the main aspects of our culture) while other cultures continue to dilute our own. Lets talk about that! I dont listen to dancehall at all, the words are misogynistic and its very uninspring on the whole...but that's not the issue at hand as its for another thread... my issue with junkanoo in june is why its taking place, its not celebrating us its "watering down" our culture for the sake of the tourist dollar...another cheap ploy to sell us down the river and that in essence is changing it from what it really is about anyway...our connection to Africa...look at christmas its not even about christ's birth anymore...its about the sales and an excuse to get off work! its about significance with me...what does junkanoo stand for...who is it celebrating ...why do we celebrate it... Tafadhali, we are no longer in chains, or in bondage, only our minds! Think about it! you dont have to tell me this I already know...oh the irony in your words... |