hmmm, there are devisions on both sides (if some people see them as sides) .. still it seems .. ill play it cold, me as a white boy can not walk down east street or kemp road .. without having the obviuos happpen to me ... bling bling ..:hammer:

i completely agree with you ... my biggest issue with walking around nassau is that your skin colour is an instant billboard, complete with pre-conceived assumptions, whether you like it or not.

ignore the distinctions and separations that more than eighty percent of the country once lived with is to refute any possibility of healing those same divisions today.

I agree but at least get the story right or understand symbolic form! As a student of Symbolic forms I can say the story needs work!

The truth is that in all my years I have never, never, ever, heard anyone, Black or White talk about the Wall - pro or con. The only time it was ever mention was to give directions! “Go down the south side of Collin’s wall until you get to......” So, as a national symbol it can't be that all consuming! Perhaps it should be! What do you think?

i completely agree with you ... my biggest issue with walking around nassau is that your skin colour is an instant billboard, complete with pre-conceived assumptions, whether you like it or not.

How shallow! I don’t mean you, I mean the observation you quite rightly made that is “stuck” in the minds of so many - Black or White. :eek:

How shallow! I don’t mean you, I mean the observation you quite rightly made that is “stuck” in the minds of so many - Black or White. :eek:


It is shallow but we all do it. If I see a white person my first thought would be slightly different than on seeing a black person. The colour will almost always play a part in my initial impression and reaction. That said I don't think that I am a shallow person so maybe the reaction isn't as much shallow as it is learned and human.

It is shallow but we all do it. If I see a white person my first thought would be slightly different than on seeing a black person. The colour will almost always play a part in my initial impression and reaction. That said I don't think that I am a shallow person so maybe the reaction isn't as much shallow as it is learned and human.

You might be right! By the way no one can accuse you of being shallow. What can we do about this problem? I think that talking about it and exchanging ideas can go a long way to fix this. What do you think?

I agree but at least get the story right or understand symbolic form! As a student of Symbolic forms I can say the story needs work!
The truth is that in all my years I have never, never, ever, heard anyone, Black or White talk about the Wall - pro or con. The only time it was ever mention was to give directions! “Go down the south side of Collin’s wall until you get to......” So, as a national symbol it can't be that all consuming! Perhaps it should be! What do you think?


chalk it up to bahamian patience, both white and black? neither side tends to proclaim their victimhood from the treetops, you know, much unlike other countries we know.

on harbour island there is a square, called temperance square, that 100 years ago contained a small private school on the island that catered to white students only. it's a lovely square, which used to be shaded by four massive fig trees until a misguided visiting methodist minister chopped them down thirty years ago to avoid having to pay insurance on the square in the event of a hurricane.

said school was burned down to the ground in the late 1800s when the brightest black student at the local school was not allowed to attend the whites-only school, with its much better facilities, despite his excellent grades. that intelligent student went on to become the first black bahamian physician in the country. to this day, the site remains a quiet lovely square, directly across the street from the conchy joe mainstays of the local business district. at the corner of the square is a monument to the esteemed dr. johnson.

do you think that the above anecdote gets recited like history in the schools, or shared in the tourist literature handed out at the area hotels? no, it doesn't. the site's history is remembered, and passed down from family to family, and shared with folks who express interest in the information. oral traditions are important, but perhaps less so in nassau according to what you're saying about the nature of symbology in nassau.

chalk it up to bahamian patience, both white and black? neither side tends to proclaim their victimhood from the treetops, you know, much unlike other countries we know.
on harbour island there is a square, called temperance square, that 100 years ago contained a small private school on the island that catered to white students only. it's a lovely square, which used to be shaded by four massive fig trees until a misguided visiting methodist minister chopped them down thirty years ago to avoid having to pay insurance on the square in the event of a hurricane.
said school was burned down to the ground in the late 1800s when the brightest black student at the local school was not allowed to attend the whites-only school, with its much better facilities, despite his excellent grades. that intelligent student went on to become the first black bahamian physician in the country. to this day, the site remains a quiet lovely square, directly across the street from the conchy joe mainstays of the local business district. at the corner of the square is a monument to the esteemed dr. johnson.
do you think that the above anecdote gets recited like history in the schools, or shared in the tourist literature handed out at the area hotels? no, it doesn't. the site's history is remembered, and passed down from family to family, and shared with folks who express interest in the information. oral traditions are important, but perhaps less so in nassau according to what you're saying about the nature of symbology in nassau.

You lost me a bit there! All I can say is if we don’t know, we cant say! Tourist come here to enjoy themselves, not to listen to our problems but we should know our stories, from both “sides.”

chalk it up to bahamian patience, both white and black? neither side tends to proclaim their victimhood from the treetops, you know, much unlike other countries we know.
on harbour island there is a square, called temperance square, that 100 years ago contained a small private school on the island that catered to white students only. it's a lovely square, which used to be shaded by four massive fig trees until a misguided visiting methodist minister chopped them down thirty years ago to avoid having to pay insurance on the square in the event of a hurricane.
said school was burned down to the ground in the late 1800s when the brightest black student at the local school was not allowed to attend the whites-only school, with its much better facilities, despite his excellent grades. that intelligent student went on to become the first black bahamian physician in the country. to this day, the site remains a quiet lovely square, directly across the street from the conchy joe mainstays of the local business district. at the corner of the square is a monument to the esteemed dr. johnson.
do you think that the above anecdote gets recited like history in the schools, or shared in the tourist literature handed out at the area hotels? no, it doesn't. the site's history is remembered, and passed down from family to family, and shared with folks who express interest in the information. oral traditions are important, but perhaps less so in nassau according to what you're saying about the nature of symbology in nassau.


Thank you for that bit of knowledge. Its appreciated.

CG has come a long way...but he still has oodles to learn.
My God...as silly as Rory is, he gets it more than you...and he is no way near smarter "suposedly" than you.

If we did not ask...we would never have known Rory was white...
something has to be said about that.
But, the minute you open up your keyboard, we can tell where you come from, and what you stand for CG....and it is not pretty.
No knock on you ...but, check that sh*t.

CG has come a long way...but he still has oodles to learn.
My God...as silly as Rory is, he gets it more than you...and he is no way near smarter "suposedly" than you.
If we did not ask...we would never have known Rory was white...
something has to be said about that.
But, the minute you open up your keyboard, we can tell where you come from, and what you stand for CG....and it is not pretty.
No knock on you ...but, check that sh*t.

Has it ever crossed your mind that you may be a purveyor of the substance you accuse me of?

Has it ever crossed your mind that you may be a purveyor of the substance you accuse me of?


Nah. I am not a construction guy at all.
:)

Nah. I am not a construction guy at all.
:)

:dgi:

“Purveyor' can have at least two meanings:
One that furnishes provisions, especially food.
Or, in your case, a person that promulgates something.

Maybe the word you were thinking of was surveyor?

chalk it up to bahamian patience, both white and black? neither side tends to proclaim their victimhood from the treetops, you know, much unlike other countries we know.
on harbour island there is a square, called temperance square, that 100 years ago contained a small private school on the island that catered to white students only. it's a lovely square, which used to be shaded by four massive fig trees until a misguided visiting methodist minister chopped them down thirty years ago to avoid having to pay insurance on the square in the event of a hurricane.
said school was burned down to the ground in the late 1800s when the brightest black student at the local school was not allowed to attend the whites-only school, with its much better facilities, despite his excellent grades. that intelligent student went on to become the first black bahamian physician in the country. to this day, the site remains a quiet lovely square, directly across the street from the conchy joe mainstays of the local business district. at the corner of the square is a monument to the esteemed dr. johnson.
do you think that the above anecdote gets recited like history in the schools, or shared in the tourist literature handed out at the area hotels? no, it doesn't. the site's history is remembered, and passed down from family to family, and shared with folks who express interest in the information. oral traditions are important, but perhaps less so in nassau according to what you're saying about the nature of symbology in nassau.


That kind of information should definitely be in our history books because it is important in understanding wh we are as a people. I think this politically correctness of not discussing our past heavily impacts our lack of a national identity. Why is it that foreign music and other art forms are more appreciated in The Bahamas than Bahamian. Bahamian music and art are far more appreciated in places like Japan than they are here at home. A large contributing factor to that reality is our failure to teach our people their history and the significance of their culture. Until something drastic is done 100 Jamz will continue to be more popular than stations like Love 97 and Island FM which play more Bahamian music. That is only my opinion but I think that we need to consider it. Many of us even feel that foreign news is the only important news, all our failures compound themselves and a change must come.

:dgi:
“Purveyor' can have at least two meanings:
One that furnishes provisions, especially food.
Or, in your case, a person that promulgates something.
Maybe the word you were thinking of was surveyor?
:eek: *promulgates, Purveyor, surveyor* why yinna using these fifty pound words. SMT! Just wanta show how smart ya'll is & how dumb some a we are. :D