my granddaddy lived off village road...and he was black...blue black...but quietly, with all the crime and stuff dont people out east and out west and in those gated communities understand that da tief coming they way pretty soon if they een already there nah?


say blue black!!! :D

crime has found it's way into lyford cay already, and it's only a matter of time before persons try to prey on those other areas, which is why I'm soon gonna be leaving this rock. It's spreading to the developed islands now too, pretty soon The Bahamas will be destroyed by its own people, then people will just sit down and blame each other for it.

say blue black!!! :D
crime has found it's way into lyford cay already, and it's only a matter of time before persons try to prey on those other areas, which is why I'm soon gonna be leaving this rock. It's spreading to the developed islands now too, pretty soon The Bahamas will be destroyed by its own people, then people will just sit down and blame each other for it.

I feel so dumbfounded but what can we do to stop crime...beat um with the switch?

I feel so dumbfounded but what can we do to stop crime...beat um with the switch?


Sometimes you can't help but feel helpless Taf...you're not alone.

But your reaction is similar to how alot of people respond to the issue: what can we do to stop crime?

Truth is, we can't stop it - we failed at preventing it. We failed at creating a society where people were equally able to work towards possessing things that make life enjoyable and worth living; then we failed at teaching our people how to love and get along with each other; then we failed at teaching our children how to appreciate what they have, and how rewarding it is to earn something rather than take it.

So you see, we failed a long time ago. Our only hope is to raise the youth now with the right principles, to rebuild a strong foundation. It sounds like a fairytale to many, and to myself sometimes, but if we're thinking of a solution, that is the closest thing to one.

Sometimes you can't help but feel helpless Taf...you're not alone.
But your reaction is similar to how alot of people respond to the issue: what can we do to stop crime?
Truth is, we can't stop it - we failed at preventing it. We failed at creating a society where people were equally able to work towards possessing things that make life enjoyable and worth living; then we failed at teaching our people how to love and get along with each other; then we failed at teaching our children how to appreciate what they have, and how rewarding it is to earn something rather than take it.
So you see, we failed a long time ago. Our only hope is to raise the youth now with the right principles, to rebuild a strong foundation. It sounds like a fairytale to many, and to myself sometimes, but if we're thinking of a solution, that is the closest thing to one.

I blame it on conspicuous consumption courtesy of the drug trade and "all fa me" govt of days gone by...I just feel that the people who are suppose to be helping dont really care because its not their kids and it een there house getting robbed and their not the ones hearing gunshots every night...that why I find it hard to listen to Perry because a lot of this is happening in his same Farm Road constituency and this perplexes me...

I blame it on conspicuous consumption courtesy of the drug trade and "all fa me" govt of days gone by...I just feel that the people who are suppose to be helping dont really care because its not their kids and it een there house getting robbed and their not the ones hearing gunshots every night...that why I find it hard to listen to Perry because a lot of this is happening in his same Farm Road constituency and this perplexes me...


You're right, and what's worse, is that they've gotten Bahamians to focus less on the issues that are destroying the country; but rather to argue about which political party has the bast dancer/drinker as a leader.

You're right, and what's worse, is that they've gotten Bahamians to focus less on the issues that are destroying the country; but rather to argue about which political party has the bast dancer/drinker as a leader.

to be honest im not impressed with either...what id like to get behind is a non-partisan group which strives to shape and mold public opinion by empowering the masses with factual information...an organization that strives to educate about Bahamians economics, the environment, legal affairs, health, the law, and culture just to name a few in hopes of our alliance being a conduit to creating government policy. I believe a lot of it is that people simply dont have access to the truth...and that is why some may be intimidated by big talks and bug words and cliches...coming on stream....in the pipeline...heads must roll...transformation...so said so done...check the record...really?

to be honest im not impressed with either...what id like to get behind is a non-partisan group which strives to shape and mold public opinion by empowering the masses with factual information...an organization that strives to educate about Bahamians economics, the environment, legal affairs, health, the law, and culture just to name a few in hopes of our alliance being a conduit to creating government policy. I believe a lot of it is that people simply dont have access to the truth...and that is why some may be intimidated by big talks and bug words and cliches...coming on stream....in the pipeline...heads must roll...transformation...so said so done...check the record...really?
:jawdroop:

I find little hope left in New Providence; so I am making my pilgrimage back to the family islands, where there is a little bit of the old "island life" left. Where my kids can enjoy this country the way they are supposed to; the way kids used to.
And where you won't be persecuted for wanting to enjoy things in life that should be available to you anywhere in this country.
I think sometimes, people need to step back and look at the entire issue before attacking something positive and transforming it into something negative.
(By the way, black people do live on Village Road Cecil, and some of them are my relatives.)

Don't worry, they moving to the family islands too; it will be a matter of time before Acklins has it own ghetto and gated community...Exuma has already started on that path...

to be honest im not impressed with either...what id like to get behind is a non-partisan group which strives to shape and mold public opinion by empowering the masses with factual information...an organization that strives to educate about Bahamians economics, the environment, legal affairs, health, the law, and culture just to name a few in hopes of our alliance being a conduit to creating government policy. I believe a lot of it is that people simply dont have access to the truth...and that is why some may be intimidated by big talks and bug words and cliches...coming on stream....in the pipeline...heads must roll...transformation...so said so done...check the record...really?

Sounds like you will be voting BNP...

Crime can be solved if we show compassion for our at risk males, and not shun them or defecate on them for our own selfish gain.

The only way we can stop crime perpetrated by the young black male, is if we provide a real seat at the trough for them to feed from.

Solving crime in this country, which has taken on so many nuances, can not be solved in less than 5 years. Unless we pick up every young black man and lock them away until they are 60, we are in this until it gets worse.

This stab in the dark approach to crime in meaningless. We need a long term approach into changing the economic bar, to give our at risk males a realistic idea on how to succede with out violence and crime. We have not done that, because no one at the top of this socio-economic bracket understand how they got there themseleves. And if they do, do not understand or care to articulate it for the youth.

And the bash goes on...from the whores in power, to the theives who are morally bankrupt. No one seems to be able to put a doctrine together, on how to get ahead without subversive tactics. Who has not gotten by with cronyism and nepotism, got over on stealing and corruption. That can be said by at least 80% "in my estimation" of our cultural elite. the other 20% just do not want to get their hands dirty with the filth they associate with our lower class young men.

The women have it easy to some extent. They are trained to be good house n*ggers from the onset, which makes it easier for them ingratiate themselves into this "system". On top of all of that, the economic power is still concentrated heavily in the hands of the few elite domminant males; white and black. Not all are faggots and some pay for school fees, cars and apartments etc... when young cats on the outside look on with contempt, while their prize possesion and object of their attention is being courted away, by the giles "money and opportunity" of the dominant male. Along with all of that, still with no money in his pocket because he is a threat to the power elite and their chosen few, and no pride in his self because he equates money with substance.

In a nut shell...."we have to do better"...

he equates money with substance.
In a nut shell...."we have to do better"...


Changing that mindset could very well be the first step in doing better. Some people have not found that such is not the case, for some it takes them to actually raise to that upper class to find out that truth. And Ironically some of them do know this and that gives them the excuse to be even more ruthless.

An elderly woman, probably from another country south of us, was just talking randomly, but was indicating how we were becoming somewhat of a superficial society. In less than a second of looking around me I saw how true it was.

Changing that mindset could very well be the first step in doing better. Some people have not found that such is not the case, for some it takes them to actually raise to that upper class to find out that truth. And Ironically some of them do know this and that gives them the excuse to be even more ruthless.

An elderly woman, probably from another country south of us, was just talking randomly, but was indicating how we were becoming somewhat of a superficial society. In less than a second of looking around me I saw how true it was.
You gotta be kidding me,where have you been in the last 18yrs or so?Say becoming,buddy we've been there for atleast 12 solid yrs now.

Yep..Marichal you are right.
We have gotten into this LA or South Beach kinda lifestyle.
Where image is everything..substance means nothing.
Good grief, we can not get any tangible information out of this country.
We can not get a Government website that speaks with clarity and sense.

I mean....Nassau is filled with fake people.
Kinda like Miami when I lived there...everyone is just so fake nowadays.

Yep..Marichal you are right.
We have gotten into this LA or South Beach kinda lifestyle.
Where image is everything..substance means nothing.
Good grief, we can not get any tangible information out of this country.
We can not get a Government website that speaks with clarity and sense.
I mean....Nassau is filled with fake people.
Kinda like Miami when I lived there...everyone is just so fake nowadays.

yah lived in da ghetto der hey ..:voodoo:

I must say that I was not going to post any opinions on this topic, because I find it rather foolish. However, that same notion prompted this response.
May I ask - is there something wrong with wanting to live in a community where you feel secure, where your children can play without fear of any danger, where you can rest peacefully without much disturbance, and where you can bond with neighbors of the same interest and priorities?
My answer to this is - NO.
Now, some of you may say, "hey I feel the same way and I don't live in a gated community!" But my friends, you are the fortunate ones.
I can name many streets where children cannot play in their yards, where families have burglar bars at every window, where it's hard to get a good night's sleep without the street lullaby, where you wouldn't dare say good morning to your neighbor because it may set them off.
Throughout New Providence you will find persons who stop in the middle of the road, and dare you to blow your horn, or ask them to pull over on the side. It even happens in your neighborhoods!
Who wouldn't pay to have peace of mind? I know I would. But I find little hope left in New Providence; so I am making my pilgrimage back to the family islands, where there is a little bit of the old "island life" left. Where my kids can enjoy this country the way they are supposed to; the way kids used to.
And where you won't be persecuted for wanting to enjoy things in life that should be available to you anywhere in this country.
I think sometimes, people need to step back and look at the entire issue before attacking something positive and transforming it into something negative.
(By the way, black people do live on Village Road Cecil, and some of them are my relatives.)



On an island 21 by 7 and a population of over 200,000 I see nothing foolish about this topic. In fact I would say that it is quite timely. If people want to feel secure, there are many security companies that can provide security services at a fraction of the cost it takes to move in such a community.


I do not believe that gated communities have too much to do with security!!!! They are communities simply designed to keep a certain social class of people out!!!!

I worked in some of the more elite gated communities and the residents still have to hire security companies to protect their properties!!!!!

I know of many rape, robberies and burglaries that occurred in Lyford Cay!!
So much for you security theory!! So even in a gated community there is still a need to hire a security company!!!


On top of that many of them are located near the sea or lake. This is of high concern to me because many locals are then denied access to waterways they are rightfully entitled to as Bahamians.

IN BRAZIL NOT EVEN THE RICH CAN DENY THE LOCALS ACCESS TO THE OCEAN EVEN IF THE OWN A BEACH FRONT PROPERTY! THEY ARE FORCED TO GIVE THE PUBLIC ACCESS!!

What is the point of living on such a beautiful island if you can’t even view its beauty!!! Almost all of the gated communities are located along our shorelines with their no trespassing signs hoisted!! This island is just too small to continue to allow this to happen!!

If I want security, I can fence in my property and hire a security company and maybe get a few dogs or bars. These measures can be far more effective than a security at the gate!!

I'm sorry I do not agree with you and I am calling on the government to deny any new request for such communities