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Rory
07-05-06, - 05:47 AM
http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=9355


But check this ..

"Mr. Minnis rebutted by noting that, as the charge is causing grievous harm and not attempted murder, there was no danger to the victim’s life."

are they MAD .. the guy shot him .. do they think a person wont die from that ..geez ..!

fasttract
07-05-06, - 08:42 AM
When the police and community work together crime can be defeated,am glad they caught the guy.any time a person blood is shead to me its attempted murder.he shot the guy and they are calling it what?grievous harm,what next rape will next be consider hate crime, come on.why can't they get this right?:hammer:

Alien
07-05-06, - 08:48 AM
It all depends on whose son Minnin is.
LOL...

Rory
07-05-06, - 09:23 AM
yep it makes me mad .. like when i was attacked with home made axes... they called it the same thing when they caught the crackheads .. i wonder if they ever heard of attempted murder .. anyway why always important to handle the criminals yourself .. track em down and take em out, im always ready to fight to the death now after learning the hard way .. cause the courts here are useless .. the criminals just get out to do something worse to someone else .. in my case they got 17 months ..

de redhead
07-05-06, - 09:31 AM
But check this ..
"Mr. Minnis rebutted by noting that, as the charge is causing grievous harm and not attempted murder, there was no danger to the victim’s life."
are they MAD .. the guy shot him .. do they think a person wont die from that ..geez ..!


When he made this statement he was referring to a bail application question. The charge of causing grievous harm had already been determined, probably by the prosecution themselves. They have to be careful to bring charges that are credible for fear that a magistrate or justice may throw out charges and make them look like fools in the process. That can prejudice a jury against them causing the jury to be overly sensitive to them and actively looking for more errors instead of hearing the evidence.

Rory
07-05-06, - 09:40 AM
When he made this statement he was referring to a bail application question. The charge of causing grievous harm had already been determined, probably by the prosecution themselves. They have to be careful to bring charges that are credible for fear that a magistrate or justice may throw out charges and make them look like fools in the process. That can prejudice a jury against them causing the jury to be overly sensitive to them and actively looking for more errors instead of hearing the evidence.


exactly, the court system here is a joke ... that includes the prosecutors and judges ..

de redhead
07-05-06, - 09:52 AM
exactly, the court system here is a joke ... that includes the prosecutors and judges ..


I was on the jury for a case where the prosecutor wasn't ready and the judge made her look incompetent and stupid.

Prince Kassad
07-05-06, - 09:54 AM
I am was wondering why they didnt charge him with attempted murder because all the ingridents was there. But i remebered that we have a new way of dealing with all cases. They are to be sent to the AG office where the lawyers will give the charge for the police to proceed with. This new policy is part of the minister swift justice program.

Rory
07-05-06, - 10:04 AM
I am was wondering why they didnt charge him with attempted murder because all the ingridents was there. But i remebered that we have a new way of dealing with all cases. They are to be sent to the AG office where the lawyers will give the charge for the police to proceed with. This new policy is part of the minister swift justice program.


Yeah cause in my case the prosecutors office made the charge .. so the police told me .. i never even went to court... it was over the same day they went before the judge .. i found out about it in the Tribune .. attacking someone with axes trying to "cut them up" and fighting them (trying to) and stealing their vehicle .. 17 months .. Hmmmmm ..

Tafadhali
07-05-06, - 10:20 AM
I was on the jury for a case where the prosecutor wasn't ready and the judge made her look incompetent and stupid.

well that's what she was...stupid and incompetent...you always have to be ready...:sarcastic

Tafadhali
07-05-06, - 10:34 AM
When he made this statement he was referring to a bail application question. The charge of causing grievous harm had already been determined, probably by the prosecution themselves. They have to be careful to bring charges that are credible for fear that a magistrate or justice may throw out charges and make them look like fools in the process. That can prejudice a jury against them causing the jury to be overly sensitive to them and actively looking for more errors instead of hearing the evidence.

the prosecution bring charges they are sure they can prove and prosecute! irreagardless of a judge's theatrics...but what am I saying this is the Bahamas..the prosecutuion and the judge work in concert here....JMO...

To me the prosecution should be more concerned with carrying out the law than looking like a fool (this case or the next- its inevitable;that will happen anyway) Jury's are people too they can tell a judge whose trying to give someone a hard time...the jury "focus on the evidence"and are reminded of this from time to time not the disposition of a judge...what about trumping up charges...I know they do that here...all these black young men in jail...or I guess the system works for the monied and those with connections...correct?

Tafadhali
07-05-06, - 10:35 AM
It all depends on whose son Minnin is.
LOL...

this is true...and very sad...a partial and corrupted justice system...

Rory
07-05-06, - 10:55 AM
the prosecution bring charges they are sure they can prove and prosecute! irreagardless of a judge's theatrics...but what am I saying this is the Bahamas..the prosecutuion and the judge work in concert here....JMO...
To me the prosecution should be more concerned with carrying out the law than looking like a fool (this case or the next- its inevitable;that will happen anyway) Jury's are people too they can tell a judge whose trying to give someone a hard time...the jury "focus on the evidence"and are reminded of this from time to time not the disposition of a judge...what about trumping up charges...I know they do that here...all these black young men in jail...or I guess the system works for the monied and those with connections...correct?


the system doesnt exist here .. nothing to not work .. :hammer:

its like when i goto burger slop. .. sometimes ill order french fries, sometimes ill pick onion rings .. the rings cost more money ... depends if i got that extra buck in my pocket .. :shhh:

Tafadhali
07-05-06, - 11:20 AM
the system doesnt exist here .. nothing to not work .. :hammer:
its like when i goto burger slop. .. sometimes ill order french fries, sometimes ill pick onion rings .. the rings cost more money ... depends if i got that extra buck in my pocket .. :shhh:

I dont understand the analogy...

de redhead
07-05-06, - 11:42 AM
I dont understand the analogy...


In The Bahamas you are not entitled to representation, you don't get a lawyer unless you can afford one.