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Bahamas News 07-31-06, - 01:03 AM Although the government plans to sign a heads of agreement "any day now" for a liquefied natural gas (LNG) project in The Bahamas, no such plant would operate without the necessary legislation being in place, according to Minister of Agriculture and Marine Resources Leslie Miller.
Link To Original Article (http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=9566)
bahamiangoddess 07-31-06, - 01:19 PM Check this out!!:what:
http://timrileylaw.com/LNG.htm
If I am not mistaken, this is the same couple Leslie Miller had a run in with when they tried to show the film in the Bahamas, he got up and left the room, he refused to watch. He said something to the effect that he was not in school and would not sit to watch anything.
How much does the Government know about LNG and are they educating the Bahamian people about the dangers involved, especially those who will live near the plants????
islandgyal 07-31-06, - 01:51 PM same couple, who still have a comprehensive LNG dangers and definitions site up and running ... that same LNG documentary, that minister miller was too tired to watch, recently won awards at the malibu film festival. your tax dollars at work, bey ...
http://www.thenassauguardian.com/national_local/310917097039846.php ... where's colin higgs when you really need him? man oh man, i am so tired of bumper car politicians that slide from one cabinet post to the next without having to know a dayum thing about their portfolio assignment.
hope the movie was more professional than that web page .. :shaky:
Tafadhali 07-31-06, - 10:00 PM Check this out!!:what:
http://timrileylaw.com/LNG.htm
If I am not mistaken, this is the same couple Leslie Miller had a run in with when they tried to show the film in the Bahamas, he got up and left the room, he refused to watch. He said something to the effect that he was not in school and would not sit to watch anything.
How much does the Government know about LNG and are they educating the Bahamian people about the dangers involved, especially those who will live near the plants????
exactly! sign the petition and continue to SAY NO TO LNG! (http://reearth.org/wp-content/files/lng_petition.pdf)
canesfins 08-01-06, - 12:26 AM If I can read their web page, it appears that the trajedies occurred decades ago. I would think that safety measures have become more effective over time. I just dont understand the backlash against LNG. Noone really knows anything about it, everyone is just guessing. This could be a new profitable industry for the Bahamas, we all want diversification right. Lets hope that rational debate and legislating happens that can result in legislation that protects the country and environment while still generating a profitable industry for our country of limited resources.
diarra 08-01-06, - 06:20 PM I just don't get it. The financial incentives for having such a plant within our Islands surely cannot compare to the risks that it can put on lives and the environment around its position. I mean for god's sake we don't have the emergency response unit capacity to deal wit a fire at the straw market or the Plaza fire the otehr day properly and efficiently. How the hell we will be able to properly insure and combat a disaster of any proportion at such a facility. I just don't get it, I really don't!!
de redhead 08-01-06, - 06:43 PM I just don't get it. The financial incentives for having such a plant within our Islands surely cannot compare to the risks that it can put on lives and the environment around its position. I mean for god's sake we don't have the emergency response unit capacity to deal wit a fire at the straw market or the Plaza fire the otehr day properly and efficiently. How the hell we will be able to properly insure and combat a disaster of any proportion at such a facility. I just don't get it, I really don't!!
I guess the company in question would be responsible for providing the necessary response teams for such a project. I personally don't see the benefit of this move as the numbers that I heard were not that big, I hope I am mistaken. Hopefully as the bill is tabled it will all come into focus. I don't think the environmental risks are that substantial but any gas terminal is inherently dangerous and it may not be worth the risk, especially considering that everyone will be clamouring for Bahamian workers and as far as I know there isn't a large pool of experienced Bahamians in this field. It sounds like a recipe for disaster if it is not thought out thoroughly. They did take a real long time to approve this though so hopefully all the risks have been considered.
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27th July
LNG Signing Next Week
By Candia Dames
Minister of Agriculture and Marine Resources Leslie Miller revealed late yesterday that the government is scheduled to sign a heads of agreement with the AES Corporation as early as Tuesday for a liquefied natural gas plant in The Bahamas.
Minister Miller, the former trade and industry minister who still has responsibility for LNG, said the Bahamian people are set to reap significant benefits from the project that will be built on the uninhabited Ocean Cay, near Cat Cay and Bimini.
AES, which had been fighting for approval for more than five years, also intends to run a pipeline to Florida to provide LNG for that state.
Minister Miller said the agreement the government plans to sign next week provides for an annual license fee of $9 million, a seabed lease fee of $6 million, as well as other fees.
"We expect that in the first year of operation the minimum amount realized by the people of The Bahamas would be $25 million and that could escalate as high as $87 million per annum," the minister told the Bahama Journal.
"The good thing about this industry is that there?s going to be many spin-off industries in the further diversification and expansion of the economy of The Bahamas because a lot of small industries will feed off the LNG industry, so that is going to get a lot of Bahamians involved."
He said both the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank have advised the government to approve a regasification terminal to assist in diversification of the Bahamian economy.
But the government continues to face objections in some circles to LNG projects with some people fearing that there would be harm to the environment, and that LNG terminals would become ideal targets for terrorists.
As the attorney general did when she revealed earlier this week that the government was negotiating a heads of agreement with AES, Minister Miller assured that the government has addressed these concerns and he said after the signing the LNG issue will be squarely in the domain of Energy and Environment Minister Dr. Marcus Bethel and the Bahamas Environment Science and Technology (BEST) Commission.
"I just think that we need to appreciate that there is a certain mindset of many Bahamians that in fact they see tourism, which is our number one industry, and they don?t see any need for us to have heavy industry or for us to industrialize The Bahamas," Minister Miller said.
"I think that they need to appreciate that the manner in which the world is moving now [makes] it imperative that you diversify your economic base so that if there is a downturn in one sector of the economy, you have other sectors that can pick up the slack, especially with regard to the revenue stream that the government has in place."
He also assured that certain safeguards were being put in place.
"All of the safeguards with regard to the environmental aspect are in place," Minister Miller said. "There?s a management agreement that Dr. Bethel and those are having enforced. I think that the Bahamian people can sleep comfortably tonight knowing that all safety aspects associated with a regasification terminal will be in place. There are stringent measures that Dr. Bethel and his team have put in place."
The minister said the whole exercise leading to the approval has been "long, tedious and drawn out" because the government wanted to be sure it would make its decision based on facts, not emotions. He said the government has taken advice from all relevant experts.
"The LNG industry is far and above the safest petrochemical industry in the world," added Minister Miller, reiterating a point he has been making over the past four years.
"They have a track record that is of envy to the world. In the last 50 years of operating LNG regasification terminals there hasn?t been a loss of life. There?s been no loss of life on LNG ships that ply our waters on a daily basis from Asia, Africa and of course Trinidad and Tobago.
"So, I am very pleased that we are at this juncture in signing, and I look forward to next week when the formal agreement will be signed for The Bahamas, and the people of The Bahamas."
islandgyal 08-01-06, - 08:21 PM If I can read their web page, it appears that the trajedies occurred decades ago. I would think that safety measures have become more effective over time. I just dont understand the backlash against LNG. Noone really knows anything about it, everyone is just guessing. This could be a new profitable industry for the Bahamas, we all want diversification right. Lets hope that rational debate and legislating happens that can result in legislation that protects the country and environment while still generating a profitable industry for our country of limited resources.
all well and good in theory, but we're talking about a country that can't even keep fire engines running in the capitol, much less maintain such a simple resource in the out islands:bahamas: ...
trubahamian 08-01-06, - 08:26 PM If proper sefeguards are implemented to insure the safety of this proposed facility and we as Bahamaians are promised inexpensive access to this CLEAN FUEL,this could be a good thing.Petro-chemical jobs pay well,Bahamians will be employed.I say hear it out on a unbiased basis,or shut up about being a nation of chambermaids and watressses.Ya een eat cake 3 time a day n not get fat!:hammer:
pharoah 08-01-06, - 08:44 PM Guys check this article out in an article written by Quincy Parker of the journal. It appears that the AES company is involve in a very serious suit brought by the Dominican Republic goverment. This is a warning to the bahamas that AES is willing to do just about anything for the mighty dollars.
http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=8209
de redhead 08-01-06, - 09:17 PM Guys check this article out in an article written by Quincy Parker of the journal. It appears that the AES company is involve in a very serious suit brought by the Dominican Republic goverment. This is a warning to the bahamas that AES is willing to do just about anything for the mighty dollars.
http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=8209
Taff is always referring to that story. It has to do with coal though, different techmology.
trubahamian 08-01-06, - 10:03 PM Taff is always referring to that story. It has to do with coal though, different techmology.
Quite right my brudda.....it is an old article that deals wit the disposal of coal ash.It has little to do with this topic other than there seems to be a dispute between AES and the Dominicans? as to the disposal sites.
pharoah 08-01-06, - 10:41 PM Taff is always referring to that story. It has to do with coal though, different techmology.
Same company. Thats the point. Past behavior can predict future behavior. The company cannot be trusted.
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