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trubahamian 08-06-06, - 02:52 PM Words spoken by a real ------------!!!:hammer:
So I guess the government must provide all opportunities that you speak off!
Lissen here boy......U and YK is like matches and gasoline! Holy moly!:eek:
madquoter 08-06-06, - 03:24 PM I was just curious to find out how many of us Bahamians have been in the presence of racial discrimination and the stories behind it! Weither it be here in the Bahamas or abroad! Please share!
I had a couple of incidents in Bahamas and one in Canada.
i-omega 08-06-06, - 04:59 PM Words spoken by a real ------------!!!:hammer:
So I guess the government must provide all opportunities that you speak off!
i'm not pickin sides,4 all intents and purpose tho ,yk is right,chek it,alot of ideas died and buried in oldtrail cemetary because of a lack of opportunity,alot of the dreams are lock-down in foxhell,it's only when Bahamian entrepeneurs get support from outside like the Turks island manufactorer,then we all-up in arms,yes B21 try not 2 make 2 personal,if there's merit in the statement let's back-it up if only in thoughts,ideas are formed before fruition,we need 2 push our elected officials 2 deal with small biznezz start-up programs,it benefits everyone,education reform so on and so forth,these things don't happen by themselves.
i'm not pickin sides,4 all intents and purpose tho ,yk is right,chek it,alot of ideas died and buried in oldtrail cemetary because of a lack of opportunity,alot of the dreams are lock-down in foxhell,it's only when Bahamian entrepeneurs get support from outside like the Turks island manufactorer,then we all-up in arms,yes B21 try not 2 make 2 personal,if there's merit in the statement let's back-it up if only in thoughts,ideas are formed before fruition,we need 2 push our elected officials 2 deal with small biznezz start-up programs,it benefits everyone,education reform so on and so forth,these things don't happen by themselves.
for real .. we need more partnership and ownership and less employee ..
i'm not pickin sides,4 all intents and purpose tho ,yk is right,chek it,alot of ideas died and buried in oldtrail cemetary because of a lack of opportunity,alot of the dreams are lock-down in foxhell,it's only when Bahamian entrepeneurs get support from outside like the Turks island manufactorer,then we all-up in arms,yes B21 try not 2 make 2 personal,if there's merit in the statement let's back-it up if only in thoughts,ideas are formed before fruition,we need 2 push our elected officials 2 deal with small biznezz start-up programs,it benefits everyone,education reform so on and so forth,these things don't happen by themselves.
I understand that and agree with to a point, but from what experience has tought me is that many choose to wait on the government to spoon feed them, and really don't pull there weight in these endeavors! Granted that the government must see that these chances are here and presented, they can only do so much! If you have a top notch idea that will be a hit on the market, you would never let that dream or idea subside, regardless to the obsticles or lack of help! I personally had no help from the government in none of my endeavors, but maybe I was just lucky! All in all, I understand your point of view! Maybe I am out of touch with todays happenings as to this topic! :bouncy:
i-omega 08-06-06, - 06:09 PM I understand that and agree with to a point, but from what experience has tought me is that many choose to wait on the government to spoon feed them, and really don't pull there weight in these endeavors! Granted that the government must see that these chances are here and presented, they can only do so much! If you have a top notch idea that will be a hit on the market, you would never let that dream or idea subside, regardless to the obsticles or lack of help! I personally had no help from the government in none of my endeavors, but maybe I was just lucky! All in all, I understand your point of view! Maybe I am out of touch with todays happenings as to this topic! :bouncy:
i overstand your point and i agree wholeheartedly,you're in-touch and on-point,government is about biznezz,and not only regulatin them but also facilitatin them,i agree pull your own weight,make sacrifices,start-up programs are not 4 free.:hammer: just don't get 2 distracted 4rom the real reason why we xchange our thoughts,you know ,2 better our lives...our nation and the world.:angel:
I had a couple of incidents in Bahamas and one in Canada.
Care to share the details?
Sure! I think we all have, at one time or another and it is not always a race thing. I have because of my faith. :angel:
Teniel 08-07-06, - 01:49 AM No actually I havent, here or abroad. Maybe I dont pay that much attention, or need to get out more..lol.
madquoter 08-07-06, - 02:01 AM Care to share the details?
The first incident was pretty minor, when I was about 8 years old and walking down the road, a black kid rode by me on a bike. As he passed by, he called out a racial slur. I wasn't anything more than surprised that a) someone, especially a child, would not only have such an attitude but express it and b) that he was so casual about it all.
The second incident was in a small town on Grand Bahama (8 Mile Rock maybe). I got into a vehicle mishap dispite being very cautious, and the other person involved got taken to the hospital to be checked out just to be sure he was o.k. With nothing more to be done about the incident, and since I was there to do business, I got down to work. In a few minutes, a woman related to the 'other person' came by and asked the staff helping me for details of the mishap. As I put down what I was doing and stepped towards the woman(who was just out of sight, around a corner), one staff gestured for me to stop and stay quiet. I then realized how close I had just come to being in a racially charged, explosive situation; no matter that I had been really careful in attempts to avoid the mishap, being a white person having possibly just hurt the womans relative could have really upset the woman. During that job I worked with someone who had a short temper, especially when it came to racial topics. The coworker had a particular dislike for a white customer presuming that the customer was a bigot and stated at one point that the customer was wrong in attitude saying 'I may be black, but I'm not stupid'. Until the mishap situation, I never thought that inter-racial tension was possibly widesread and not just limited to a few people such as that co-worker.
The incident in Canada was the morning after the last bachelor party I took part in. The party involved bar hopping around the city, starting at a restaurant. Unfortunately, half of us showed up at the restaurant a bit late and the staff were uninterested in serving us a meal resulting in that half of the party-- me included-- starting off the night of drinking on empty stomachs. That morning after I woke up still a bit 'under the influence' and realized that soon I would be experiencing the mother of all hang-overs. To avoid the oncoming pain, I wandered down a few blocks to a local booze store to pick up a bottle of whatever that could ease me slowly towards sobriety. While thinking "I can't believe how much we drank last night", I began to suspect the smell of alcohol on me, especially my breath, would have store staff refuse to serve me and just tell me to leave the store. But, what the heck, since I was there in the store and still not wanting to feel the agony of a hang-over I might as well try achieve my goal. And I stepped up the till, standing right behind a native american woman. In Canada, and perhaps USA, natives have a negative stereotype that includes an idea that many of them are alcoholic good-for-nothings. The native woman ahead of me was slow in counting out the money to pay for her purchase, but that could be explained by her perhaps having a low education especially in math(a comparitively large % of natives do not get far in the educational system, and just getting a high school diploma may be seen as a big achievement), or maybe she, like many of us, was slow getting off to the day, or for some other reason. But, the staff working the till translated her slowness as being part of being somewhat drunk. So, that staff told her that he couldn't sell her the booze, and that she would have to leave the store empty handed. As this exchange between staff and woman was going on, I again began to think of how I was not completely sober. Heck! There and then I realized I was not standing still behind her, but rather, had a bit of a wobble in my stance. Rolling my eyes, I again considered just putting down the bottle and walking out of the store. But, before I could put the bottle in place, the till staff finished with the woman and turned to me and started ringing in the price of the bottle. I figured the situation had just gotten so surreal, that out of curiosity I had to play it out. I ended up paying for the booze and walking back home with it. This incident became another lesson or example of how people can be judged by colour or ethnicity.
Tafadhali 08-07-06, - 02:28 AM The first incident was pretty minor, when I was about 8 years old and walking down the road, a black kid rode by me on a bike. As he passed by, he called out a racial slur. I wasn't anything more than surprised that a) someone, especially a child, would not only have such an attitude but express it and b) that he was so casual about it all.
The second incident was in a small town on Grand Bahama (8 Mile Rock maybe). I got into a vehicle mishap dispite being very cautious, and the other person involved got taken to the hospital to be checked out just to be sure he was o.k. With nothing more to be done about the incident, and since I was there to do business, I got down to work. In a few minutes, a woman related to the 'other person' came by and asked the staff helping me for details of the mishap. As I put down what I was doing and stepped towards the woman(who was just out of sight, around a corner), one staff gestured for me to stop and stay quiet. I then realized how close I had just come to being in a racially charged, explosive situation; no matter that I had been really careful in attempts to avoid the mishap, being a white person having possibly just hurt the womans relative could have really upset the woman. During that job I worked with someone who had a short temper, especially when it came to racial topics. The coworker had a particular dislike for a white customer presuming that the customer was a bigot and stated at one point that the customer was wrong in attitude saying 'I may be black, but I'm not stupid'. Until the mishap situation, I never thought that inter-racial tension was possibly widesread and not just limited to a few people such as that co-worker.
The incident in Canada was the morning after the last bachelor party I took part in. The party involved bar hopping around the city, starting at a restaurant. Unfortunately, half of us showed up at the restaurant a bit late and the staff were uninterested in serving us a meal resulting in that half of the party-- me included-- starting off the night of drinking on empty stomachs. That morning after I woke up still a bit 'under the influence' and realized that soon I would be experiencing the mother of all hang-overs. To avoid the oncoming pain, I wandered down a few blocks to a local booze store to pick up a bottle of whatever that could ease me slowly towards sobriety. While thinking "I can't believe how much we drank last night", I began to suspect the smell of alcohol on me, especially my breath, would have store staff refuse to serve me and just tell me to leave the store. But, what the heck, since I was there in the store and still not wanting to feel the agony of a hang-over I might as well try achieve my goal. And I stepped up the till, standing right behind a native american woman. In Canada, and perhaps USA, natives have a negative stereotype that includes an idea that many of them are alcoholic good-for-nothings. The native woman ahead of me was slow in counting out the money to pay for her purchase, but that could be explained by her perhaps having a low education especially in math(a comparitively large % of natives do not get far in the educational system, and just getting a high school diploma may be seen as a big achievement), or maybe she, like many of us, was slow getting off to the day, or for some other reason. But, the staff working the till translated her slowness as being part of being somewhat drunk. So, that staff told her that he couldn't sell her the booze, and that she would have to leave the store empty handed. As this exchange between staff and woman was going on, I again began to think of how I was not completely sober. Heck! There and then I realized I was not standing still behind her, but rather, had a bit of a wobble in my stance. Rolling my eyes, I again considered just putting down the bottle and walking out of the store. But, before I could put the bottle in place, the till staff finished with the woman and turned to me and started ringing in the price of the bottle. I figured the situation had just gotten so surreal, that out of curiosity I had to play it out. I ended up paying for the booze and walking back home with it. This incident became another lesson or example of how people can be judged by colour or ethnicity.
oh my lanttttttta your long-winded! :fly:
Alien 08-07-06, - 07:41 AM i overstand your point and i agree wholeheartedly,you're in-touch and on-point,government is about biznezz,and not only regulatin them but also facilitatin them,i agree pull your own weight,make sacrifices,start-up programs are not 4 free.:hammer: just don't get 2 distracted 4rom the real reason why we xchange our thoughts,you know ,2 better our lives...our nation and the world.:angel:
Nah....BS21 won't get it. He is stuck on personality.
:rolleyes:
He disagreed with me, but you had to shove it in his face to prove he was wrong, and he readily accepted his folly.
He looks like a prime candidate for old trail.
p.s. BS21...
I was not talking about Government alone in creating opportunity...
You "should" have known that.
:rolleyes:
lol @ madquoter .. thats it ..?
Im not tellin my stories cause we'll need an extra few Giga bytes of hard drive space /./. anyway i dont think it was discrimination, that is typically when a job is involved ...
Alien 08-07-06, - 08:38 AM If it means anything, I have been called black by black people...
LOL...
But, seriously....White folk are over reacting to the racial thing, it is ust as much about being arrogant and silly than it is actual racism.
If you want my two cents, white folk act as if we owe them some measure of respect. I went into places many a times, and find it more often than not a White person would jump in front of me, expecting to be served before me.
This happens all the time....and if they do not jump the line, they talk to the customer service representative that I am speaking to.
It is almost Israeli like in terms of the market place type actions they try to gte away with....
One time I was in a bank, and the lad got so upset that she was shunned by the Customer Service rep that was serving me, she went and complained.
Like that made a difference.....she must have thought this was the 60s or something!
Just wait your turn...even when they do wait their turn, they act as if they are about to push you out of the way, like your business is not important.
Yankee and Brit whites.....Brit whites are worse.
y2 .. you serious ... dread we bahamians are the worst for cutting in front, black and white, then we ga cuss you out afterwords ..i watched about 6 young kids cut in front of this woman in Esso one evening, then their friends started to cutin front, so she then said something, not rude, just so she could get served as she was there way before them .. these kids meanwhile like 6-10 years old ... after she left they was like F*** her that white bit** ..., she lucky i ain F her in her white a** .. and yah know what, then some grown woman came and tried to cut in front of me .. Big mistake cause no matter who you are i dont take no shiznet from noone .. :D Lets not talk about traffic now .. its second nature to cut in front in Nassau ...
on a side note, i dont know what it is you expect from white people or which caucasians you have met in your life, but noone i ever knew expects anything from anyone ... except for mutual respect.
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